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NOWHERE IS THERE RECORD OF NDRI AND MDMA MIXTURE CAUSING ADVERSE REACTION. YOU CAN SEIZURE ON ANY ANTI-D MEDICINE WITHOUT MDMA INVOLVED. AS STATED BY THE DOCTOR REPORT, IF YOU'RE IN THE 450+ mg RANGE OF WELLBUTRIN A LONE YOU HAVE A 4 in 1,000 CHANCE OF SEIZURE. STOP FEAR MONGERING AND COMING TO CONCLUSIONS BASED ON YOUR OPINION THAT THEY DON'T MIX WHEN THERE IS NO VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE BESIDES THAT THE ROLL MIGHT BE LESS INTENSE...
 
Calm down buddy.


Do you know what an NDRI is?


Its a dopamine AND a norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor, it does both of those things at the same time. Try googling DRI and MDMA, then google NRI and MDMA, then put those two together and you have what an NDRI will do.

Dopamine Reuptake Inhibitors and MDMA don't mix.
Norepinephrine Reuptake Inhibtors and MDMA don't mix.

Bupropion is both of those.... so how would it be OK to mix?
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Not to mention, I wasn't taking about Wellbutrin alone, now was I? I was talking about that combined with another drug that makes you prone to seizures.




Scaremongering? That's laughable. I'm trying to keep someone from taking two drugs that will not interact well together. If he wants to roll he can wait and get it out of his system, which will take more than a day, then he will probably be able to roll, but it most likely still have a diminished effect on the dopamine and NE receptors.


Stopping your medications abruptly is a bad idea though, especially just so you can get high
 
i'm calm I just don't know how else to convey to you the fact that there is no record of adverse reaction (which you claim there is). I googled both and found nothing saying there is a dangerous reaction or any accounts of someone having one, but rather that there is NO reaction. I found a few accounts of nri or dri having an affect on intensity of the experience, but that's subjective.

telling someone to google and then putting your two-bit for shit answer in quotes below it doesn't prove anything.

and yes, you are fear mongering by making false claims about adverse reactions with no medical evidence. first you said you'll get serotonine syndrome, then you said having too low of dopamine is dangerous, and then you claim that you are prone to seizure.

get real man, you're covering your tracks now.
 
fairbanks215 said:
then you said having too low of dopamine is dangerous, and then you claim that you are prone to seizure.
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I never said that, and you are.


OK, sorry. I was wrong, it's not DANGEROUS like SSRIs are, but you should still not do it. A DRI and MDMA causes quite diminished experience, same with an NRI.

If he want's to have a good, safe roll he should not combine these drugs.
 
Folley said:
You would have less dopamine, not more. That's the problem.
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Didn't say that, my ass.

Changing opinion now huh? Not dangerous anymore, huh? So you're saying now that he should not roll because he MAY MAY MAY have a diminished experience. But probaly not because he'll have less than 150 mg dicipating wellbutrin so it probably won't lessen the roll. But you still say he shouldn't do it because he might not roll as hard. fuck outta here man with your righteousness.
 
fairbanks215 said:
Didn't say that, my ass.
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Oh no, I said that. I didn't say that meant it was dangerous.


Once again, I point to cocaine and MDMA. That's a clear example of a DRI blocking a roll.




fairbanks215 said:
But you still say he shouldn't do it because he might not roll as hard.
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So instead of waiting a while to have an amazing time, he should just settle for that diminished experience? Yeah, I'll stay here with my righteousness so he can actually get the information he needs instead of someone googling "Wellbutrin and MDMA" and telling him it's fine
 
THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS ARGUMENT WAS THAT YOU KEPT ON SAYING WELLBUTRIN & MDMA IS DANGEROUS WITHOUT PROOF & I WAS REBUTTLING. I POSTED A MEDICAL DOCTOR'S ANSWER TO THE EXACT QUESTION. YOU'RE THE ONE GIVING YOUR EMPTY OPINION WITH NO EVIDENCE

COCAINE MAY BLOCK THE INTENSITY, WELLBUTRIN MAY BLOCK THE INTENSITY. BUT THAT'S SUBJECTIVE. AND WITH ONLY 150 mgs of dissipating wellbutrin I DOUBT HIS ROLL WILL BE BLOCKED AT ALL.

GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE SAND. YOU'RE TRYING TO BE RIGHT ON ATLEAST ONE LITTLE PART OF THIS AND IT'S JUST NOT WORKING.
 
AN N/DRI and MDMA will cause a diminished experience, that is not subjective. The drug directly blocks the release of NE and dopamine, which are critical in an MDMA "high". Again, that is not subjective, but a direct drug interaction.



and another thing, just because a drug is not in your system doesn't mean the consequences from taking it aren't still there. SSRI users receive 5-HT downregulation that can last for years after discontinuation of the medication. I'm sure the same can be said for DA/NE downregulation.
 
show me proof or an article that says it will diminish mdma high 100% of the time. you're generalizing experience which is always subjective broheem. just because someone else on a forum said they didn't get as high as usual after taking ndri doesn't mean it will block it for everyone else. not to mention there could be other factors like the quality of the mdma itself. i've seen plenty of people say that there was completely no effect. you're generalizing and saying the roll will be blocked when you have no proof besides accounts from forum posters.


n/dri's don't block the dopamine or norepinephrine from mdma entering the brain you fool.


it may keep his dopamine and norepinephrine levels higher for a longer time after the roll but it won't block the experience of the roll at all, you're just saying that because you saw a few people post it on a forum when there could have been a host of other reasons why they didn't have as hard of a roll.
 
fairbanks215 said:
n/dri's don't block the dopamine or norepinephrine from mdma entering the brain you fool.
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lol... I don't even think you know how they work... because that's almost exactly what they do. They inhibit (stop) the release of dopamine to the receptors


MDMA releases DA and NE, this drug keeps those two from being released. Remind me again how that's not going to cause an interaction..?
 
if that was the case then an ssri would block serotonine from mdma and wouldn't cause serotonine syndrome hahaha. your a fool. n/dri's don't block ne or dopamine, if that's the case then it would be called a depressant not an anti-depressant. lmao.

re-uptake inhibitor will make the dopamine and NE last a little longer in the person but it won't block shit.
 
LOL. Yeah, try reading some more, because that's not it at all.


Dude you don't even know how these drugs work, at all. You did a quick google search and you're trying to talk about something you have no knowledge on.


I'm not going to continue a debate with someone who has just "taught" themselves the subject
 
Folley said:
lol... I don't even think you know how they work... because that's almost exactly what they do. They inhibit (stop) the release of dopamine to the receptors


MDMA releases DA and NE, this drug keeps those two from being released. Remind me again how that's not going to cause an interaction..?
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lmao. you're saying an anti-depressant drug when taken blocks the release of dopamine and NE? LMFAO you loose my friend. just quit while you're ahead. you my friend don't know how a re-uptake inhibitor works. they don't block shit they increase the transmission of the neurotransmitter. in this case dopamine and NE.
 
Folley said:
LOL. Yeah, try reading some more, because that's not it at all.


Dude you don't even know how these drugs work, at all. You did a quick google search and you're trying to talk about something you have no knowledge on.


I'm not going to continue a debate with someone who has just "taught" themselves the subject
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I don't know how these drugs work? You've been proven wrong in every statement that you made in this thread. I think you need to rethink what you just said. I didn't do a quick google search. I posted an MD's opinion and I know what a re-uptake inhibitor does. it doesn't block it actually assists in the transmission of neurotransmitters. you're a full on retard trying to prove the slightest amount of dignity in yourself. yet failing miserably.
 
Oh my God.... you know nothing about these!!!! Keep reading.


They block the TRANSPORTER, not the receptors. That way dopamine or whatever is not taken back into the terminal, and the amount of dopamine or serotonin in the synapse is increased, which is why they are helpful for depression.


By blocking those transporters they will also keep dopamine from being released, which is why they shouldn't be mixed.
 
you should patent that idea of DRI that blocks the release of dopamine. lmao. it'd be like legal suicide. the poor fuck hardly has enough dopamine as it is, and then you completely block the transmission. good golly, you're fucked.
 
No... KEEP READING.


They block the TRANSPORTERS, which are what releases (and transports) dopamine. It also causes dopamine not to be taken back into the system, which causes more dopamine to stay in the synapse.... which is why they are effective.

Do you know what a synapse is? Or a transporter? Or a receptor?
 
yes, and it will have no effect on this kid's experience if he deicdes to roll 24 hours after taking 300 mg's of wellbutrin. you have no proof that it will block his roll. please post if you do.
 
fairbanks215 said:
yes, and it will have no effect on this kid's experience if he deicdes to roll 24 hours after taking 300 mg's of wellbutrin. you have no proof that it will block his roll. please post if you do.
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lol right, because science and logic don't hold any weight on what google and ignorant people on forums tell you.

You have no proof that it WON'T, and I've provided plenty of evidence to suggest the contrary.



Google how drugs work before you get in a debate about them. Actually, you should learn how the systems of the brain work before you do that.
 
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