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Benzos Well...Phenibut min dose question.

Flaga121

Flaga121

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So my Phenibut is coming tomorrow and I'm trying to figure out some details.

The details I can find everywhere are

-How to get addicted/quit
-How to get very/kind of/a little high
-How to get real and truly fucked up

What I can't figure out is the minimum truly effective dose for sleep. I grabbed it because I truly can't sleep at all most nights thanks to w/d from bupe. This is fine, but I need two nights of sleep a week at least. So I figure I'll take the phenibut twice a week, far apart, and the lowest possible dose. I know I need to figure that out on my own, but for a starting dose I'm looking for the lowest dose anyone on here found effective. I have no alch/benzo tolerance (I mean NONE, I tend not to like either substance at all.).
 
Everyone reacts differently to Phenibut. I have extensive experience with it.

As a reference there's a brand called "Relax-All" found in the vitamin store that contains 125mg Phenibut/capsule - they say to take 2. That leads me to believe that 250mg may be a proper therapeutic dose. Of course it is non-regulated and not approved by any regulatory agency so all you have to go on is anecdotal reports.
 
I dont use phenibut for sleep but I find that my normal 800 mg dose (taken in the morning) helps me sleep that day too so I dont take any drugs for sleep on Phenibut days. I think that a somewhat smaller dose would do the trick for sleep too if I took it 4 hours before bedtime.
 
Phenibut is a slippery slope. After a month or so I was going through over 100 grams of pure powder in less than a week..ten to fifteen grams a day. Tolerance builds extremely quickly. After a couple more months terrible side effects set in...irrational thoughts, bizarre behavior, dreams (nightmares) that seemed so real I could barely believe they didn't actually happen. If you've set on using keep it to the bare minimum. Shit sneaks up on you and before you know it you're in deep. Withdraws although short are absolutely brutal. Not a wink of sleep for five to seven days. Proceed with caution.
 
I'm an opiate addict and know what it is to become dependent. As I said in OP I'm using two days a week at the min dose possible to nab some sleep.
 
Well see what happens. I'm gunna see what I feel from a half g. I've spent most of my life in school studying addiction so it doesn't creep up on me. At the same time with opiates I said fuck it. But I'm at a very different place in life.

I'd never take over a g honestly. Even if a full g didn't do much for me. Id give it away. I'm good at keeping dose low for anything but opiates.
 
seeking out phenibut to use for sleep i do not recommend..it will put you to sleep but like many realize, it will give you a long lasting mood elevation that isnt quite like any other drug/med out there in my experience..ive talked to many that said they would only use it for 2-3 days a week and before ya know it, they are using 8 grams a day and their insomnia is worse than before they started..

you can study addiction all you want and it ist going to keep you from getting addicted lol..addiction is one incredibly insidious monster ...oh well though, ill answer the question OP asked, when i first started on phenibut 500-600 provided a very nice high-quality sleep..
 
I started out taking .8 - 1g but not for sleep issues. Start with 500mg. The thing is phenibut doesn't kick in for atleast 2 hours, sometimes longer. Just wait before you dose again and don't take it right when you want to sleep start way before.
 
I'm not going to redose with this stuff. I'm going to take a specific dose (>1gram) and see how it goes. If it doesn't work I'm giving it to a friend whos hooked on benzos. I was going through nasty acute w/d when I ordered it and had more reason for this in my head. I'm still curious, i've tried most popular drugs at least once (my personal rule was to limit ROA not drugs, I never shot/plugged). I'm going to start with 400mg the first night, then go up 50mg each trial (after 3 night breaks) till something works well. I'm going to make 1.1grams my ceiling at which point I give up on the substance.
 
I think phenny starts to become therapeutically relevant as an anxiolytic at around a quarter gram, maybe a little before that.

I have not found it to be a particularly useful drug for sleep, though, at least at doses I've taken (up to ~1.2g). It tends to make me productive and less inclined to procrastinate (procrastination is, for me at least, driven by anxiety), but it doesn't make me feel sleepy or like going to bed...
 
Most drugs that act on gaba in any way tend to but me to sleep lol. We will see today though.
 
Phenibut is different in that it doesn't promote sleep. The agonist effect at GABA-B causes many downstream effects. Such as dopamine release. Think of it as a cascading effect. I will say however that once you WANT to sleep you literally just flip a switch in your brain and BOOM you're out cold.
 
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