Weird use and withdrawal problem?

[mr.buffnstuff]

Ok some of you may remember I was on a lot of opiate medication for some toes that fell off and resulting damage throughout my legs n spine I went cold turkey after 18 months of non stop use in jan 2012.
I've managed to deal with the pain somehow since, bearing on mind before I couldn't walk far or be stood up long, not sure why I was able to after quitting though?
So, about 3 months ago the pain got up to a point where it was unbearable, we're talking absolute agony just being stood up etc, doctor put me on gabapentin first, but I was having real weird side effects of just feeling 'fucked' whereas a few years ago I felt fine on them, so tried pregabalin which seemed ok for a week or two then came ineffective. Then I got put onto tramadol, 4-6 a day. To me I thought it would be ok as it's a fraction of what I used to use and they sorted me out for about 2 months up until recently when I've started just feeling crap and now have ED which I last suffered pre withdrawing at the start of 2012.
This was the catalyst for me to stop taking this small amount of tramadol, I haven't had any since Saturday morning and now I'm starting to withdraw pretty hard!? Why would such a small amount of drugs like this now be affecting me so bad? I feel so depressed! Is this what my like has amounted to, crippling pain or ED and a shitty life controlled by compulsory supplements I'm going to need? I'm 26 not 86 FFS!

A very down and unhappy
Mr.Buffnstuff

 

[BlindHelperMonkey]

that sounds fucking awful, you have my sympathy. unfortunately, the problem is one familiar to many of us. that of 'opioid kindling'. basically, once youve acquired a decent daily habit, your body will never be a 'clean slate' again, its actually a very interesting phenomenon - counter-intuitive, even - its easy to assume that if you kick a habit, revert back to being clean for a length of time.. you are back on page one, ready to abuse your poor, innocent body with lots of lovely opiates once again - unfortunately, this is not the case. as far as we can tell, once youve had that first proper habit, your body is forever vulnerable to falling into it once again, almost like youve carved out an imaginary 'groove' that just aches to be filled once more


for me, it took a MONTH of daily, heavy usage to acquire my inaugural habit - and when i did kick, like you i expected another month of lovely self-abuse between myself and addiction... i was back rattling like a good'un in two days



no clean slates

 

[Allein]

I seem to have been luck, I recently CTd from about 80-100mg of MST that I'd been taking fairly consistently (between short periods of using 30/500s)

I seemed to suffer almost no withdrawal, Tramadol was recommended by the hospital and I could have had it earlier this year as I'd come off Venlafaxine but my GP is not a fan of the stuff. His view was that the MST had a much better and more established track record and fewer side effects not to mention less addiction potential in his experience.

If you pain is more neurological you might try Amitriptyline, I've heard some get on well with it.

 

[lurching]

200-300mg tramadol for a few months ain't that much but still.. not nothing. I'd get crushing depression whenever I came off tramadol... pretty fkin bad SSRI style stuff.

 

[mr.buffnstuff]

Yeh 2-300mg tramadol ain't much but that coupled with 600mg DHC, 300mg MST, oramorph and 100mcg/day fentanyl was a lot to me in total.

Regards amitriptylene, I used that, pregabalin and gabapentin but they all seemed to be ineffective after a couple of weeks.

BHM - I didn't realise that with regards to the time needed to be rattling again... I'm gutted I was hoping I could just have a low dose of something and be able to manage enough to keep going with my life.

 

[Ziggy stardust]

Anso...you keep posting your site around the board...
I hope people research the outcome of ibogia .....it's not all it's cracked up to be.

 

[CbRoXiDe]

With me personally, i've used lots of opiates and been addicted. And for some reason when i'm clean any small amount makes me rattle. Had some DHC for about a week maybe 4 a-day other week and felt abit of a rattle for a day afterwards.

 

[blondin]

yer first habit can take weeks to develop - mine did, maybe 1-2 months but now after 30 years I know that if i did a week of gear i would go in to WD's , not that it would happen as Im either on the gear or om my script. And each CT gets worse or maybe it just seems worse as you know whats coming. Even when i was chipping after 1 or 2 days of using when i stopped i had 2 days of feeling fucked.