Weed Legalization

[Roger&Me]

it should be treated in the same fashion as alcohol, at minimum. I could be more liberal, but I don't see that happening.

I agree, I would ideally like to see it treated like any other flower.

But if they really wanna regulate it like alcohol, its ridiculous but I guess I'll settle for it.

 

[California_growin]

Medical Cannabis Legalization

What the story is if pot is fully legalization of pot will allow Government to shut down rights under 215, that allows patients to grow there medical marijuana and put the responsibilities in the hands of major cigarettes companies to distributive
the medical cannabis in the form of cigarettes, and they will probably use the entire the plant in the process of making medical cannabis, and the potency will not be as much as if individuals were able to grow there own meds.

California_Growin
Executive Director
High Sierra NORML

 

[Roose]

Just because cannabis is a plant doesn't give it any support for legalization. There's endless amounts of plants that will straight up kill somebody, they're not illegal because they aren't readily available.

 

[Roger&Me]

^That's not entirely true. For instance, the Nerium oleander plant is a very common decorative shrub and it is extremely toxic.

I think the fact its a plant most definitely should be cause for legalization. You can't legislate against other living beings, that's completely ludicrous. What if we made hummingbirds illegal? Or what if we made it against the law to be a chinese person? If that were to happen, it would be plainly obvious to people that its wrong-- but for some reason people seem incapable of applying that same logic to plants and fungi.

 

[Roose]

Making a substance you can ingest illegal just doesn't sit well with me. People should have the right to govern their own bodies. If somebody wants to go out and snort lines of coke until they die then let them, just provide everyone with correct information so at least they can make informed decisions.

 

[Vader]

You can't legislate against other living beings, that's completely ludicrous. What if we made hummingbirds illegal?

I'm certainly sympathetic to this line of argument, but I think a lot of people might balk at the idea that, say, anthrax spores should be legal.

 

[rm-rf]

full legalization. the government has no say in what plants i grow or what things i put in my body, so long as i am no danger to anyone else. it is a crime to deny anyone access to cannabis.


my government serves me, i do not serve my government.

anthrax spores should be legal.

well, in my opinion, they should be. if you disagree, dont vote for me.

murdering someone, or committing manslaughter due to carelessness, is a crime that deserves high sanctions. uranium should be legal. mishandling it, and causing detriment to another, will result int he revocation of your ability to handle such material and a heavy sanction that will never allow you to do anything without thinking twice again.

information should never be illegal. thus, DNA is never illegal. Thus, an organism can not be illegal. Humans do not own other organisms, as much as their tiny little ego filled brains like to think they do. The universe owns organisms. Another organism (human) can not go about creating arbitrary rules for other organisms for their own benefit. to do so is to deny the very rules of the cosmos, and makes your species appear like a germ crawling about on a speck of dust, oblivious to the universe around it.

 

[FrostyMcFailure]

This debate seems to be the one Achilles heal our movement has. Legalization would allow the same dooschbags who've been arresting us to profit from us again. Fuck them, thats what many people feel deep down. Jack Herer for example is for decriminalization as opposed to legalization partially 4 this reason. Whatever is quicker is fine with me, if it does decrim it'll eventually lead to re-legalization

. Get it straight, RE-Legalization, not legalization. The people operating cannabis schools feel the opposite, they want to legalize for many reasons including some tax related, an estimated billion + can be made for cali in the first year. Especially appealing after the raping & pillaging of the federal gov... I mean "bail outs".
It should be worked out amongst ourself b4 some corrupt entity uses it against to protect their industry's profits. Many industries are threatened by the hemp industry, this was initially the reason it was declared illegal with the 1936 marijuana tax stamp act.

Several prominent tycoons got together with a common problem

 

[PK555]

re-legalization

This is a very good point it was once legal.

Get it straight, RE-Legalization, not legalization.

As stated above it used to be legal and it needs to be that way again so yea RE-legalize the good ole' wacky tabbaky.

Especially appealing after the raping & pillaging of the federal gov... I mean "bail outs".

Can't disagree with this gotta laugh a bit because it was rape and pillage example aig insurance.

It should be worked out amongst ourself b4 some corrupt entity uses it against to protect their industry's profits. Many industries are threatened by the hemp industry, this was initially the reason it was declared illegal with the 1936 marijuana tax stamp act.

Several prominent tycoons got together with a common problem

QFT and history three cheers for government corruption !!

 

[Spleh]

If the legalized it, everyone would just grow it at home and sometimes go out to buy it at shops.

The same reason not everyone brews their own alcohol. Not everyone has the time or the bother.
I'd assume you'd also be looking at a quality/potency difference between bought and home grown weed as well. Different methods of cultivation and nurturing of the plants would help to ensure that

 

[chairmanma084]

the best thing you can do on this subject is just sit around and daydream about it. think of all the strains and how much higher the quality would get. hash would be all around. life as we know it would change drastically. there'd be no more CD. there'd just be D.

 

[anarchogen]

I'd think the potency would be controlled or something.
If I can pay tax for cigarettes I would definitely pay tax for weed.

Washington state is trying to partially legalize it and sell it in state run liquor shops, there would be a 15% tax, 21+ or older can purchase like alcohol, and somewhat ironically the proceeds would go to drug and alcohol treatment funds.

 

[FrostyMcFailure]

there'd be no more CD. there'd just be D.

Not necessarily true. This statement has a drug warrior-esk feel to it. They claim if pot was legal everyone would get high & we'd have a bajillion car accident a day & your babys would be gettin stoned etc. In reality it wouldnt be like that, not everyone is an alcoholic & their are alcoholic discussions online even though alcohol is legal. Not tryin 2 be mean, just sayin. Where do we learn about what this nice list is? Welcome PK-555, good to hear your on the ball as well.

 

[PK555]

Thanks FrostyMcFaliure and my eyes were vastly opened by my family and extended family in hawaii. There it is close to legal almost every one has a medical or religious card. Since the question will inevitably be asked in hawaii you can have up to an 1/8 for religious use as it was taken to the state supreme court and the religious folks won. It is also a misdemeanor as of 2008 to posses 1oz or less or under 99 mature plants. Weed is less harmful than booze as per my motto "The only victim when you smoke weed is a bottle of Mt.Dew and a bag of Cheetos". Plus after seeing the positive effect it had for my mom to help her depression, my uncle for pain management, and cousin for his epilepsy it made me question why it was illegal only to find lies half truths and anti-drug propaganda. I'm 100% on board for legalization and have been a recreational toker for over 6 yrs. LEGALIZE TODAY ! ! !

 

[HighOfTheTiger]

Making a substance you can ingest illegal just doesn't sit well with me. People should have the right to govern their own bodies. If somebody wants to go out and snort lines of coke until they die then let them, just provide everyone with correct information so at least they can make informed decisions.

I agree.. take the "gutter-rails" off of society and let natural selection run it's course. Those who can handle it, will, those who can't, wont.

The main problem about legalization is people's ignorance toward weed. Everyone thinks it's a "hard" drug, and it destroys lives. That's just simply (like you all know) not the case. I'd like to see it legalized.. unfortunately, I don't see it happening very soon.

 

[FrostyMcFailure]

Thanks FrostyMcFaliure and my eyes were vastly opened by my family and extended family in hawaii. There it is close to legal almost every one has a medical or religious card. Since the question will inevitably be asked in hawaii you can have up to an 1/8 for religious use as it was taken to the state supreme court and the religious folks won. It is also a misdemeanor as of 2008 to posses 1oz or less or under 99 mature plants. Weed is less harmful than booze as per my motto "The only victim when you smoke weed is a bottle of Mt.Dew and a bag of Cheetos". Plus after seeing the positive effect it had for my mom to help her depression, my uncle for pain management, and cousin for his epilepsy it made me question why it was illegal only to find lies half truths and anti-drug propaganda. I'm 100% on board for legalization and have been a recreational toker for over 6 yrs. LEGALIZE TODAY ! ! !

whoahh, i cant even grow in my state :'(

*bows to the king*

 

[chairmanma084]

Not necessarily true. This statement has a drug warrior-esk feel to it. They claim if pot was legal everyone would get high & we'd have a bajillion car accident a day & your babys would be gettin stoned etc. In reality it wouldnt be like that, not everyone is an alcoholic & their are alcoholic discussions online even though alcohol is legal. Not tryin 2 be mean, just sayin.

drug-warrior? nah...

everybody knows smokin weed doesn't impair your ability to drive a car.

i didn't mean to imply anything about everyone getting addicted to smoking weed.

i don't know where you got all that theory from my post...

in essence i think that legalizing weed would solve lots of social & economic problems. are you saying that you don't think things (especially for WE POT SMOKERS) would get tremendously better overall?

no more shady ass dealers, no more cops saying they smell weed in ur car, etc...

 

[Vader]

everybody knows smokin weed doesn't impair your ability to drive a car.

Bollocks. I was in my mate's car and he was so high he was driving in circles around a roundabout in total confusion, I had to direct him the whole way home. I've been so high I had to just follow my mate's brake lights. And we're both experienced smokers. I very much doubt that driving high would be legal just because weed was, so I think cops would still bust you for drug driving.

 

[zurichsb]

Full legalization would be awesome, but i dont really give a fuck. I forgot weed was illegal years ago.

 

[w01fg4ng]

I doubt legalization will come anytime soon, realistically it will probably be decriminalized and legal for medical use.

In my city it is already decriminalized in my state it is legal for medical use. I would imagine most other states will follow with time. Full legalization follows pretty closely after that...


EDIT: We also have dispensaries which you can legally smoke in (aka coffee shop) and ones that sell food cooked with cannabis. The States are moving towards full legalization pretty fast IMO.