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Weed doesn't do this to other people. Why does it do it to me?

When I smoke middies I feel fine. A little slow, a little stupid, but also chilled-out.

When I smoke good weed ...

I am walking along and suddenly there is a feeling of opening inside my skull, a physical sensation. And I begin to hear voices. Some of these voices are benign, even actively benevolent. They love me, they are friends and guardians and gurus.

Others hate me. One in particular I mean. It wants a capillary to burst in my head. It wants my heart to beat and beat and beat until it explodes. It wants me to fall over dead. I don't know why it wants me to die. It holds me in contempt and disgust.

Obviously, these voices are all part of me. They were first revealed to me when I mixed acid and weed, and since then, they have returned when I smoke really good weed. Last night I smoked a SINGLE NUGGET of weed which was sold to me as "dro" (hydroponically grown, I'm assuming). My God, the weed smelled and looked delectable. And a single nugget did this to me:

I was walking and the buzzing of the powerlines was eating my skull. It was disintegrating my thoughts. And I realized the voice that hates me is the fault of the powerlines. The powerlines have been laid all over the place, everywhere to render us docile, to create voices of self-hatred, to render humans depressed and bipolar and all the rest. Furthermore, my boyfriend wants to gut me with a knife or shoot me with a gun or throw me off a fucking bridge. My boyfriend wants to shoot me in the fucking head.

As I type all this out it seems ridiculous. But at the time, with the voices cackling and shouting in my head, with the powerlines buzzing and buzzing and buzzing everywhere I went, it seemed absolutely rational. There is an infinite matrix of further subtext and inference and delusion I could relate about what I came to believe last night, which by light of morning seems ridiculous, but which I CANNOT fully discard because it felt so much more REAL than anything happening in so-called real, sober life.

Bottom line being: on weed, I hear voices. I come to believe in malevolent entities and impending death. I feel a sense of the utmost looming doom and of being loathed and of being worthless.

Why doesn't really good weed just chill me out really well the way it does to others? :(

thc can cactivate and exacerbate latent mental disorders particularly schizophrenia

low grade weed has more thc broken doen into cbd which has been shown to exert an antipsychotic effect http://www.ukcia.org/library/mh_2_review.php

this is why i only like hash especially mild strength old hash(much prefferable to pollen) that others often find boring relaxes me wheras strong skunk makes my mania/depression a million times worse and puts me in a proper rage

if you do get good weed store it for a very long time and you have ellevated cbd content-much more buff. i recently found some that had been in a pocket of my trousers in a peice of paper for over a month in the heat and it was so relaxing
 
Let me reiterate what, thankfully, most of the posters in this thread have expressed: STOP YOUR DRUG USE ALTOGETHER!

As others have said, what you described is characteristic of psychosis and is potentially life-threatening to you and others. You said yourself that these delusions seem realer than anything. Suppose you get high and experience the delusion you described of believing your boyfriend wants to shoot you in the head. In your deluded state, what's to stop you from deciding it's a good idea to harm him before he harms you?

This is no joke. It is not at all normal to experience full-blown hallucinations and delusions as a result of cannabis use, and as others have said these are signs of an underlying psychological condition for which you MUST SEEK HELP! The posters who are suggesting you can "cure yourself" or just smoke different kinds of weed, etc. are giving you dangerously bad advice and, frankly, have no business posting on a harm reduction discussion board. Shame on them.

Please, we can't say this enough: STOP USING DRUGS IMMEDIATELY and see a doctor!
 
I like others here, suggest that you see a psychiatrist or a psychologist and stop using all illegal drugs.

You may not be schizo as there is a type of bipolar disorder that mimics certain symptoms of schizophrenia such as voices but only a trained psychiatrist/therapist can tell you if you have this or not.

I wish you good luck.
 
"Psychological disorders really aren't something that you can just practice your way out of. "

I disagree. Maybe not "practice" your way out of them, but you can MOST certainly cure yourself. Maybe not everyone can, but I could. I haven't had a single psychotic episode for ~6 months, not exactly long I know, but I'm pretty confident the worst of it is behind me. We aren't here to discuss psychology. She doesn't need to take my advice, but she doesn't need to take yours either. Telling people they're psychos and treating them as "sick" people MAKES them crazy. I just offered an opinion based on my experiences and the experiences of others. One of my best friends was like us and he just decided to stop smoking pot. I told him the things I told you, but he felt that the drug wasn't for him. You know what's best for you, not us.

don't give off-the-wall advice like this unless that's a professional opinion. the only certain way to cure oneself of mental illness is to quit all and any psychotropic drugs. my PERSONAL opinion is to seek professional help but avoid any pharmaceutical drugs offered, since they are also psychotropic and may easily compound the problem or create new problems that lead to a bunch of experimentation with antipsychotics, etc.

some medical professionals have proposed that mild schizophrenia is caused by simply magnesium deficiency. when i'm tripping on random psychs, i have risperidone on hand as a LAST resort to kill trips that are overwhelmingly sinister, but i have always found myself that chugging a bunch of mineral water loaded with magnesium was sufficient at blunting the chaos and edginess.

obviously, i'm not a proponent of the pharmaceutical industry. the pretty little pills, after all, are the direct cause of over 100,000 american deaths per annum with hundreds of thousand more indirect deaths caused by the diseases these drugs are supressing the symptoms of.
 
i need help

okay i may sound tottaly crazy but i just want to know whats goin on.

when i smoke i get so high its ridiculous , and lately ive been getting extremley highhh like to the point where i feel like im in a movie looking down at my hands and being like holy shit , it almost feels as if i am watching myself act. Like if i was controlling my person from somewhere else.
Then the day after smoking i get these effects sometimes .
AM i crazy or am i just over reacting ?
 
okay i may sound tottaly crazy but i just want to know whats goin on.

when i smoke i get so high its ridiculous , and lately ive been getting extremley highhh like to the point where i feel like im in a movie looking down at my hands and being like holy shit , it almost feels as if i am watching myself act. Like if i was controlling my person from somewhere else.
Then the day after smoking i get these effects sometimes .
AM i crazy or am i just over reacting ?


You're just getting really high.
 
Neither are normal. Hearing voices on psychedelics, whether it be LSD or cannabis, is not a normal effect. You may have tons of inner dialogue and it may go on strange tangents but you can still exert a degree of control over your thoughts. What the OP is describing is not a trip. They are delusions.

You're kidding right? LSD can not only make you hear voices, but have a conversation with someone else in the room that isn't even really there at all.


People on here seem to be to quick to assume skizophrenia from mild hallucinations. I think the "voices" the OP is hearing are only his thoughts, but he's so stoned that he doesn't realize he's thinking them. This is definately an effect I get especially when I'm realllly high. I have many times gotten stoned enough to have conversations with myself in my head, or even talk to myself outloud. And after combining weed with xtc many times, when I smoke enough I also start to get minor OEVs and sometimes pretty strong CEVs.


IME once you do other psychadelics like LSD, shrooms, etc. the effects weed has on your mind change quite a bit, and the OP isn't used to the change yet. One thing that might help is if you do decide to keep smoking, find something to do to keep you occupied so you aren't focused on all those thoughts.


-Blaze
 
You're kidding right? LSD can not only make you hear voices, but have a conversation with someone else in the room that isn't even really there at all.


People on here seem to be to quick to assume skizophrenia from mild hallucinations. I think the "voices" the OP is hearing are only his thoughts, but he's so stoned that he doesn't realize he's thinking them. This is definately an effect I get especially when I'm realllly high. I have many times gotten stoned enough to have conversations with myself in my head, or even talk to myself outloud. And after combining weed with xtc many times, when I smoke enough I also start to get minor OEVs and sometimes pretty strong CEVs.


IME once you do other psychadelics like LSD, shrooms, etc. the effects weed has on your mind change quite a bit, and the OP isn't used to the change yet. One thing that might help is if you do decide to keep smoking, find something to do to keep you occupied so you aren't focused on all those thoughts.


-Blaze


No one's saying it is schizophrenia, we're saying OP's experiencing signs of schizophrenia.

Seriously, what harm can come from him/her simply getting evaluated? Once you think about that, what harm can come from OP actually being schizophrenic and not doing anything about it other than continuing to use mind-bending drugs and exacerbating the problem?

It's a fucking no-brainer, man.
 
If he goes to a psyche with the same story he gave us, he's going to be labeled a skizophrenic. Same thing happened to a buddy of mine after too much X. The things the OP described are exactly the kinds of experiences I had on weed after I started doing L and other psyches. If he starts having those kinds of symptoms when no drugs have been taken, thats when there's a problem.


-Blaze
 
Okay, so what would you suggest? I mean, this being a harm reduction board and all, how would the OP differentiate between thoughts and auditory hallucinations that he/she's already categorized into foreign groups of good and bad?
 
Auditory hallucinations aren't unheard of from weed either so that question seems pointless to me, or maybe I'm missing the point. As far as what I suggest, if the OP isn't enjoying the effects of the weed then it's simple, don't smoke. If you continue to do so, just know that the "voices" are your own thoughts you're just so stoned you jump to the first paranoid delusion that you may be hearing voices, only causing you to freak out more. I've experienced all the things the OP described on weed as well and at first I too thought I might be going crazy. This was about 7 months ago and I'm still smoking atleast a couples times a day and I haven't become any crazier.


-Blaze
 
Auditory hallucinations aren't unheard of from weed either so that question seems pointless to me, or maybe I'm missing the point. As far as what I suggest, if the OP isn't enjoying the effects of the weed then it's simple, don't smoke. If you continue to do so, just know that the "voices" are your own thoughts you're just so stoned you jump to the first paranoid delusion that you may be hearing voices, only causing you to freak out more. I've experienced all the things the OP described on weed as well and at first I too thought I might be going crazy. This was about 7 months ago and I'm still smoking atleast a couples times a day and I haven't become any crazier.

I am walking along and suddenly there is a feeling of opening inside my skull, a physical sensation. And I begin to hear voices. Some of these voices are benign, even actively benevolent. They love me, they are friends and guardians and gurus.

Others hate me. One in particular I mean. It wants a capillary to burst in my head. It wants my heart to beat and beat and beat until it explodes. It wants me to fall over dead. I don't know why it wants me to die. It holds me in contempt and disgust.


Now do you see why a majority of us are concerned?

OP: I'm done with this thread. Do what you feel. I hope that you get a professional opinion instead of listening to us e-experts relate our own experiences and no real information to you, but that's on you. Good luck.
 
As I type all this out it seems ridiculous. But at the time, with the voices cackling and shouting in my head, with the powerlines buzzing and buzzing and buzzing everywhere I went, it seemed absolutely rational. There is an infinite matrix of further subtext and inference and delusion I could relate about what I came to believe last night, which by light of morning seems ridiculous, but which I CANNOT fully discard because it felt so much more REAL than anything happening in so-called real, sober life.

Now do you see why this isn't so serious? Weed becomes much more psychadelic after combining or even doing other hallucinogens alone. The OP mentioned these effects didn't start until after combining weed with LSD, and after tripping several times on DXM. I believe the OP could be experiencing effects of skizophrenia while smoking weed, but these effects aren't because of "skizophrenia" it's from combining weed with other psychadelics.

I'm sure everyone has dealt with the weed experience of your heart beating "too fast" and you think you're going to die from a heart attack. This is the same thing the OP is experiencing just in a more psychadelic way as a result of using other hallucinogens. Atleast that's my opinion anyway.
 
Now do you see why this isn't so serious?

That actually was one of the most disturbing parts.

Foreign voices that seem more real than reality and influence your actions and how you feel about yourself are not normal effects of psychedelics. I don't care what you've been through and how you've handled it, the shit's not what a healthy mind experiences under the influence of cannabis.

Even if you're right and it is his/her own thoughts being mistaken for outside entities, part of this person wants themself dead. If that's not cause for concern then I don't know what is.



...Oh look, I've made a liar out of myself by coming back into this thread. Fuck.
 
"Foreign voices that seem more real than reality and influence your actions and how you feel about yourself are not normal effects of psychedelics."

You haven't done many psychedelics I'm guessing.

And I don't think part of this person wants themself dead, and there's nothing more I can say that I haven't already that explains why.
 
I've done my fair share, and I've never felt like I wasn't in control of what I was thinking or what was happening to me.
 
dxm definatly fucks with your mind.

Idk about voices talking to me. personally. But Ive been so high on weed that my inner dialouge is loud and socially anxious. on lsd when Im thinking I feel like im saying it out loud too. which wigs me out lol
 
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