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Weed doesn't do this to other people. Why does it do it to me?

Stop
Smoking
Weed.

Stop
Taking
Mind-bending
Drugs.

See
A
Psychologist.

This is potentially the start of Psychosis mate :\
 
What you are describing, OP, are the same sorts of symptoms that schizophrenic and schizoaffective people experience. In addition to this, I have known schizophrenic and schizoaffective patients who experience similar things when they use marijuana.

I echo the concerns that others have laid out here already. I recommend that you stop using drugs altogether. You could trigger a very serious episode or your condition may progress. Get a proper evaluation. Hopefully this will all stop once you stop using drugs.
 
queenscarlet88 said:
Right now I'm functioning quite well and I just smoked a small bowl -- more than I smoked yesterday.

Maybe getting too high and hallucinating voices, violent entities, etc. stem from low tolerance + exceptional bud. Exceptional bud is probably fine after even a day of smoking because the tolerance goes back up. Though it somewhat defeats the purpose of better bud to use it only once tolerance has elevated.

I love love love weed. Painkillers bore me, stimulants sap me, alcohol puts me totally out of control. <3 weed.
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yeah...you're not getting the point...the quallity or how much weed you ingest has nothing to do with your schizo condition. Now it may intensify this condition but it does not cause this condition. You were most likely permanently affected by your use of LSD or whatever psychedelic you liked tripping on. LSD has been known to induce schizophrenia sometimes permanently.
 
The Eden Express

I read Mark Vonnegut's book, The Eden Express, I really liked the book, and it pretty much describes what you guys are talking about. Thought that maybe you would want to check it out.
 
Stop smoking weed. Sounds like you may have some underlying schizophrenia. Drug use can help brings these out.

How old are you? If you are around the age of 19 to 22ish I really would watch yourself. That is the age in which many of these disorders manifest.
 
Do you have other experiences that don't seem to happen to other people? Like spiritual or psychical experiences? I had the same shit happen to me, but I formed a relationship with the herb. I can use it as a shamanic tool now. Takes a bit of practice. I'm just speaking from personal experience here. Don't worry about people calling you schizophrenic. It's bullshit imo. 1% of the population "has" schizophrenia, and really, as long as you don't hurt anyone or yourself and can heal yourself enough to be feeling ok most of the time, I see no reason you need treatment or anything. Don't let people scare you with that god-ugly label.


So yeah. Either stop smoking or practice. If you REALLY want to just be chill when you toke, smoke it and concentrate on getting those feelings. It (probably) will happen eventually. All about intention man.
 
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alt 14 said:
Do you have other experiences that don't seem to happen to other people? Like spiritual or psychical experiences? I had the same shit happen to me, but I formed a relationship with the herb. I can use it as a shamanic tool now. Takes a bit of practice. I'm just speaking from personal experience here. Don't worry about people calling you schizophrenic. It's bullshit imo. 1% of the population "has" schizophrenia, and really, as long as you don't hurt anyone or yourself and can heal yourself enough to be feeling ok most of the time, I see no reason you need treatment or anything. Don't let people scare you with that god-ugly label.


So yeah. Either stop smoking or practice. If you make you REALLY want to just be chill when you toke, smoke it and concentrate on getting those feelings. It (probably) will happen eventually. All about intention man.
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+1 for suure.
 
Definitely stop smoking weed. This is not something to be taken lightly. What you are describing is definitely psychosis with full blown delusions.
 
Have you guys been referring to my mini report aswell? Probably not, but if so I'm sure it was from sleep deprivation and bad mindset.

and alt-14, I totally agree with you on that, 100%
 
Psychological disorders really aren't something that you can just practice your way out of.
 
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"Psychological disorders really aren't something that you can just practice your way out of. "

I disagree. Maybe not "practice" your way out of them, but you can MOST certainly cure yourself. Maybe not everyone can, but I could. I haven't had a single psychotic episode for ~6 months, not exactly long I know, but I'm pretty confident the worst of it is behind me. We aren't here to discuss psychology. She doesn't need to take my advice, but she doesn't need to take yours either. Telling people they're psychos and treating them as "sick" people MAKES them crazy. I just offered an opinion based on my experiences and the experiences of others. One of my best friends was like us and he just decided to stop smoking pot. I told him the things I told you, but he felt that the drug wasn't for him. You know what's best for you, not us.
 
queenscarlet88 said:
When I smoke middies I feel fine. A little slow, a little stupid, but also chilled-out.

When I smoke good weed ...

I am walking along and suddenly there is a feeling of opening inside my skull, a physical sensation. And I begin to hear voices. Some of these voices are benign, even actively benevolent. They love me, they are friends and guardians and gurus.

Others hate me. One in particular I mean. It wants a capillary to burst in my head. It wants my heart to beat and beat and beat until it explodes. It wants me to fall over dead. I don't know why it wants me to die. It holds me in contempt and disgust.

Obviously, these voices are all part of me. They were first revealed to me when I mixed acid and weed, and since then, they have returned when I smoke really good weed. Last night I smoked a SINGLE NUGGET of weed which was sold to me as "dro" (hydroponically grown, I'm assuming). My God, the weed smelled and looked delectable. And a single nugget did this to me:

I was walking and the buzzing of the powerlines was eating my skull. It was disintegrating my thoughts. And I realized the voice that hates me is the fault of the powerlines. The powerlines have been laid all over the place, everywhere to render us docile, to create voices of self-hatred, to render humans depressed and bipolar and all the rest. Furthermore, my boyfriend wants to gut me with a knife or shoot me with a gun or throw me off a fucking bridge. My boyfriend wants to shoot me in the fucking head.

As I type all this out it seems ridiculous. But at the time, with the voices cackling and shouting in my head, with the powerlines buzzing and buzzing and buzzing everywhere I went, it seemed absolutely rational. There is an infinite matrix of further subtext and inference and delusion I could relate about what I came to believe last night, which by light of morning seems ridiculous, but which I CANNOT fully discard because it felt so much more REAL than anything happening in so-called real, sober life.

Bottom line being: on weed, I hear voices. I come to believe in malevolent entities and impending death. I feel a sense of the utmost looming doom and of being loathed and of being worthless.

Why doesn't really good weed just chill me out really well the way it does to others? :(
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Wow, I'm really really sorry man. Now..I don't know if any of my advice will help you, but if it does, I'd be very happy too help.

First and foremost, even with my suggestions, I would suggest seeking professional help; Be honest! I hate when my friends will go too the doctor because they feel an adverse effect of a drug and they wont tell the doctor they used an illegal drug. Be sure too tell him this started after your acid intake.

Second, if good weed get's you this way...then stay on the reggis man. Sure, a nice fat blunt of haze is awesome, but If I was hearing voices from it...fuck that. If however you ignore this advice (which I hope you don't) mabe you should see if you can calm yourself down. You'd be amazed on the tricks your mind can play on you...if you dont believe you hear the voices, mabe it'll stop.

MY personal beliefs are, there are spirits. There the realese of the electricity in our body that gets suddenly realesed into the atmosphere when we die. I believe tihs just cause of a few things I've seen on MDMA trips...but quite frankly, I'm more convinced it's a psychological problem more so than super natural.

But yeah, stay off the heavy weed, seek professional help and take it form there.
 
alt 14 said:
"Psychological disorders really aren't something that you can just practice your way out of. "

I disagree. Maybe not "practice" your way out of them, but you can MOST certainly cure yourself. Maybe not everyone can, but I could. I haven't had a single psychotic episode for ~6 months, not exactly long I know, but I'm pretty confident the worst of it is behind me. We aren't here to discuss psychology. She doesn't need to take my advice, but she doesn't need to take yours either. Telling people they're psychos and treating them as "sick" people MAKES them crazy. I just offered an opinion based on my experiences and the experiences of others. One of my best friends was like us and he just decided to stop smoking pot. I told him the things I told you, but he felt that the drug wasn't for him. You know what's best for you, not us.
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If you have some kind of mental illness how would you ever know if you're cured? You really wouldn't have any previous experience to compare it to, so it'd be really easy for a person to think they're normal when really they're delving deeper and deeper into some kind of fucked up mental state.

But I mean, you're right... people can cure themselves, but battling something like schizophrenia alone is a risky path. In the spirit of harm reduction the best choice for this person would be to go and get an evaluation. At the worst, we're right and OP gets the help that they deserve; at best, we're wrong and they can come on here and tell us all to go to Hell while he smokes some primo pot and has full-blown psychedelia-induced auditory hallucinations.

No ones trying to make OP feel like a crazed mental patient, but hearing voices and dividing those voices into groups of good and bad isn't normal... not even for a mild psychedelic like pot. And even from shrooms, LSD and mescaline, I've never heard voices that shouldn't exist. Sounds, yeah... but never voices that tell me things and hold 1-way conversations with me.
 
you are possibly just stupid or are being affected in your decision making by your new mental problem...STOP TAKING DRUGS!!!! some people...the mojority of people...are able to take drugs like weed and acid and dxm and be fine and not go schitzo, you unfortunately, are not one of those people. im truely sorry that you can not enjoy weed and acid because they are wonderful drugs, but 1 too many tabs of acid, 1 too many hits of weed, and you could land yourself in an institution. this is very serious and very real...do not jeapordise your mental health for a short term high.
 
Wow this thread is off the chain.

Hard to believe some of you signed up in good faith for a 'harm reduction' board. Most of you seem to be pretty mean and/or just not very helpful in the first place.

I'll just stick to addressing the OP.

First of all, and most important to say, imo is this...

Think very carefully before you take your next step in dealing with this. It's extremely possible as some have said, that you stumbled across a latent condition that would have emerged later in life. In that case, at least there is a silver lining, as catching stuff like this early can have a HUGE impact on treatment, etc....

BUT, please give yourself a few days to really assess what's going on and if you still feel like something's not right then make an appointment to see a Doctor, who will give you a referral to a specialist based on what you tell him/her.

Also, you're not stupid and you didn't do anything wrong. Additionally, just because somebody who posts on a forum in response to you had a particular experience that they FEEL is similar to yours, doesn't mean you have to listen to them or believe them. Every human being and human brain is totally different.... unique to itself in how it reacts to each chemical. You need to figure what's going on in your own brain. IF in fact you are having legitimate symptoms of an ongoing or future psychotic break, then listening to things the voices tell you to do could be the exact wrong thing to do... especially the mean ones.

Someone mentioned Mark Vonnegut's book. If you haven't read The Bell Jar of Girl Interrupted, maybe check those out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Jar

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girl_Interrupted

Good luck with this and, finally, I would encourage you not to ignore it for too long. Another quasi silver lining is that there are PLENTY of people walking around leading 'normal' lives who have in fact had very ABnormal experiences... they simply do not talk about them publicly.

There's always a chance you could be in that category, but I would find out for sure.

If you ever want to talk or anything feel free to PM me.

peace
 
alt 14 said:
Basically, what I'm asking is why is it a trip if you hear voices on mushrooms, but not if you hear them on pot? People really under-estimate the power of the herb. I have dealt with psychosis first hand, and it IS possible to cure yourself from schizophrenia. I think weed actually helped me work through the problems that were brought to the surface when I started using it.
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Neither are normal. Hearing voices on psychedelics, whether it be LSD or cannabis, is not a normal effect. You may have tons of inner dialogue and it may go on strange tangents but you can still exert a degree of control over your thoughts. What the OP is describing is not a trip. They are delusions.

I would suggest to the OP that he not take what alt-14 is saying too seriously. I agree with the sentiment that it is up to you and that only you can make the judgement to stop but I think it is pretty reckless to suggest that you embrace these symptoms and even smoke more weed to "practice" inducing them. It would probably be in your best interest to at least be wary of it.

It may have helped Alt control his symptoms but that would certainly be an anomaly. It is just as likely (probably more) to make mental illness worse. You asked for advice and the overwhelming majority of people are suggesting that you at least consider taking a break.
 
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wow I thought I was bad cause I get a dissacociative anxiety when I smoke weed in large amounts, but I've never heard voices in my head, sometimes music but never voices well except for my own. and I've done lots and lots and lots of psychadelics
 
Dude. Dont let these fuckers tell you you're skitzo, and what ever you do, DO NOT GO TO THE HOSPITAL. Thats 75% of what skitzophrenia is, they lock you up in a white room and tell you you've got mental problems. Being alone in such a place for soo long, you start to beleive it. then after a while of being alone and your only freinds are the voices in your head, thats when you have a real problem to deal with.

And no. Your not alone. Infact if you used the search engine, you would've found dozens of threads on this exact topic. ("Why do I trip on weed??" "Why does bud effect me differently then others???" "Why do I have pannic attacks?")
Everyones brain chemistry is different. You trip on weed cuz your brain is more focused on its psychedelic properties rather than its sedating/relaxing traits. (Probably from too much DXM use before getting a tolerance to weed). Set and setting play a huge role in this.

People underestimate the power of weed. I think its one of the most unpredictable psychedelics out there. I've gotten worse trips off weed then any other drug. It's the only drug that i've been certain that I was dead on (besides salvia). And I have experience with DXM, shrooms, LSD, LSA, yopo (DMT snuff), MDMA, MDA, and Salvia.

If you don't like the effect you get from weed, dont smoke it. I only smoke now when rolling, cause it adds the perfect visuals and emotion to a good MDMA peak.
 
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