novaveritas
Bluelighter
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my edit was because ihad double posted or the first pic didn't work well
to be honest she's a victim OF GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE and climate change deniers.
Even if you're one of the 9% of scientists that says we aren't the cause of it, it's real and human beings have to adapt.
No reputable scientists disclaim the idea of (catastrophic/problematic and ongoing) climate change.
sorry I was referring to the change you made to what I said.
She equally is the victim of a fake sound bite environmental movement. Whose agenda is not what you think. Instead fauxenvironmentalism is being used to push a massive wealth and freedom extraction scheme. The environmentalist movement has been hijacked IMHO into something that is a tool for the same people respnsible for the current mess. Ask yourself how Ms Thunberg got such easy access to the very top, ask yourself also why ms Thunberg had a camera crew with her from the very start.
I say not proven on anthropogenic climate change. Models are exactly that, models. Models that come up with the same conclusion when random data is thrown in are not valid models. Models where the inner workings are hidden and the data inputted is prescreened are not sound either. Garbage in Garbage out. Science stands or falls on the quality of the evidence presented, not consensus.
I say climate change is real and always has been. 5000 years ago the north africa and the sahel was green, one thousand years ago coastal peru was green too. What influence man has is unknown.
As an aside If we wanted to capture all of the CO2 released in the last year it is actually relatively easy, switch to agricultural techniques that preserve the soil fungi and soil structure, temperate soil is one of the biggest CO2 sinks on earth. That means lower impact farming, less chemical inputs. It means not growing high impact crops like maize to feed cattle. Never grow crops to turn into ethanol or biodiesel remove those subsidies. Let cattle eat grass, properly managed pasture absorbs and sequesters immense amounts of CO2 and gives beef.
I support protecting earth, and I actively make choices that do this out of enlightened self interest. I like my nature I like my frogs my snakes my mantises, my hoopoes. But say no to subsidizing Elons selling electric virtue signalling boxes, no to carbon credits, no to carbon taxes that only the rich can afford. No to forced fuel poverty. No to holding back countries development.
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