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We want our MDA/Speed/MDEA/MDMA mix pills back NOW/MDMA isn't MDMA bollocks

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Aye, disconvienience with the wax all over the sheets though. Could start a muesseum with the overspill outa that sweaty lobe you got there boooooooi! Yawh! %)
 
captain codshit said:
Aye, disconvienience with the wax all over the sheets though. Could start a muesseum with the overspill outa that sweaty lobe you got there boooooooi! Yawh! %)
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Wow, you really ran with the earache thing there didn't ya cc, that was some trippy shit =D

Happy Christmas all!
 
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Smoggie32 said:
Totally agree, I managed to get some orange Q dance pills from our Dutch friends, and what they are producing over there is fucking top class, I'd say we must get all their shit that don't come up to scratch, a bit like buying jeans from T K Max.
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Weve been doing those here in UK. My man tells me they have mdma and mda in them. Can't confirm that but when I did a few I did get trippy visuals where some of my friends faces began to look like young children??
 
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mda/mda_effects.shtml

POSITIVE
extreme mood lift
increased willingness to communicate
increase in energy (stimulation)
ego softening
feelings of comfort, belonging, and closeness to others
feelings of love and empathy
forgiveness
increased awareness & appreciation of music
increased awareness of senses. (eating, drinking, smell)
profound life-changing spiritual experiences
neurotically based fear dissolution
sensations bright and intense
urge to hug and kiss people
NEUTRAL
decreased appetite
visual distortion
rapid, involuntary eye jiggling (nystagmus)
mild visual hallucinations
moderately increased heart rate and blood pressure (increases with dose)
restlessness, nervousness, shivering
change in body temperature regulation
strong desire to do or want more when coming down

NEGATIVE
(negative side effects increase with higher doses and frequent use)

inappropriate and/or unintended emotional bonding
tendency to say things you might feel uncomfortable about later
mild to extreme jaw clenching (trisma), tongue and cheek chewing, and teeth grinding (bruxia)
difficulty concentrating & problems with activities requiring linear focus
short-term memory scramble or loss & confusion
muscle tension
erectile disfunction and difficulty reaching orgasm
increase in body temperature, hyperthermia, dehydration (drink water)
hyponatremia (don't drink too much water)
nausea and vomiting
headaches, dizziness, loss of balance, and vertigo
post-trip Crash - unpleasantly harsh comedown from the peak effect
hangover the next day, lasting days to weeks
mild depression and fatigue for up to a week
severe depression and/or fatigue (uncommon)
possible strong urge to repeat the experience, though not physically addictive
possible psychological crisis requiring hospitalization (psychotic episodes, severe panic attacks, etc) (rare)
possible liver toxicity (rare)
possible neurotoxicity (controversial)
small risk of death. Assuming similar risk to MDMA, approximately 2 per 100,000 users have extreme negative reactions resulting in death. (rare)
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When you read that it actually sounds better than MDMA to me. Says dose for most people is 100-150mgs. Then maybe do the same amount of MDMA as a booster later in the night. I get a proper old skool magic come up off 150mg of the transparent crystal it's just that it doesn't really do anythin to me after I've done 2 decent doses anymore.

Heard from a mate he had green £12 each pills the other weekend he thought were trippy.

It's a wonder more MDA is not produced?
 
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captain codshit said:
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mda/mda_effects.shtml



When you read that it actually sounds better than MDMA to me. Says dose for most people is 100-150mgs. Then maybe do the same amount of MDMA as a booster later in the night. I get a proper old skool magic come up off 150mg of the transparent crystal it's just that it doesn't really do anythin to me after I've done 2 decent doses anymore.

Heard from a mate he had green £12 each pills the other weekend he thought were trippy.

It's a wonder more MDA is not produced?
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MDA is more of a drug experience. But I think the reason MDMA is more popular is because it's a much nicer less overwhelming experience. I always thought that anyway.

Like you could say acid was a better drug than MDMA but you probably wouldn't want to use it in many situations by comparison.
 
mda is allegedly easier to make. its more toxic though. not sure illegal drug producers want there buisness's ruined by customers down the chain being at higher risk of death, although for over a year in 1992 i did obscene amounts of the stuff in estimated 200 mg pills and im still here to tell the tale. i think more people especially girls fall in love with mdma though. its alot smoother ride :) back in 1992 i rememebr loads of people dismissing the same mda pills i fell in love with, because they just couldnt handle it, especially being sick and the being further out from reality unlike mdma. it a niche market and very much an aquired taste
 
We do have a couple reports of idiosyncratic reactions where users had effects for 12-18 hours after ingestion, but there are equivalent reports for MDMA.


L's Comparison of MDA to MDMA:
The total experience is 8 hours, but the 'trip' is 4-5 hours like X. The after-effects are like being way-laid, definitely washing around in the after-swell of a full experience of an amphetamine-hallucinogen. We call MDA 'industrial electronic mushrooms' and compare the post-peak to riding the diesel-electric locomotive all the way home. Your feet vibrate for some time after you step off a huge machine like that: tingling and numb. There's no finer intoxicant, but you need careful and considerable support or the body load can turn you into a vegetable for the latter half of the experience and the day after. With X you feel all the emotional and spiritual connectivy possible (much the 'empathogen'), with MDA you see (hallucinate, visually experience) all the emotional and spiritual connectivity possible.



Gracie & Zarkov's Comparison of MDA to MDMA:
"The differences from MDM(A) are striking: MDA is more hallucinogenic with noticeable closed eye imagery, is a much greater aesthetic enhancer, especially of people and of music; is more euphoric; more "drug-like", a heavier and more obviously body-involved trip. Tactile sensation is more powerful, erotic and noticeable on MDA. Physical effects are more up-front: gastric upset, pupil dilation, water retention, limbic arousal. On the whole, we find MDA a more enjoyable and interesting trip; longer lasting and more sexual/sensual. Our favorite characteristic is that one retains an interesting psychedelic ideation on MDA, rather then the feeling-oriented, but rather idealess thinking of MDM(A).

The second trip report makes me think I'd enjoy it more than MDMA. I'd only really do LSD around a few close mates really, far preffer MDMA. But 2c-i is great for clubbing, loads of energy, confidence, nonsense patter etc on it. MDA sounds like it could be pretty messy in a club. Would 100mg be best first time trying it if in a club?

Those windmills were ace for going mad raving I thought. I'd imagine you'd be looking some shape taking MDA in a club though, especially when th bouncers are cunts in this place!
 
i absolutley hate acid or anything hallucnigenic or thought provoking including ket. yet i fookin i love mda, the more mind bending the betetr when vie been fortunate enough to be on it. so there you go. we are all different. :)
 
I think with the orange standbys there is not enough mda in them to notice it's effect properly until you take more than 2. I mean you certainly feel the difference compared to straight mdma but because they have more mdma than mda in them it's not like you can totally notice it. BUt once you take more you do get these moments where it becomes apparent.

I agree though, I think there should be more mda made available. It is very slightly easier to produce than mdma in some methods. But I doubt it makes much difference really, it's only like one step closer in the process.
 
well, ive been pointed in the direction by someone reliable of some different crystal than the dirty shite ive tried this year. gonna wait till next month and hopefully it will still be about. gonna give it one more try and if that fails then ic ant be arsed anymore. gonna make allowances for the possibility of the crystal being 70-90 per cent pure and drop 250 mg, should give me a wholesome proper 200 mg drop and im gonna drop a caffeine pill with it, in a good mood while out with my fave people in my fave places and not on other drugs, maybe just one alcoholic beverage to lighten the mood at start of night. if that fails, goodbye mdma uk, until i see some decent evidence other than just a test kit that good shits going around
 
There is something about all this dicussion on MDMA I don't understand.
MDMA is a very unique drug.
Of all the phychedelics(in fact Shulgin doesn't classify it as a true phychedelic) it's the only one that is active with a methamphetamine chain on it.
Try this combination with anything else and it doesn't work.
Also strangely this unique combination reverses the active isomers and makes the usally weaker isomer more active. It's in this(as long as you have a 50/50 mix) state 'the magic' happens.
Unfortunatly after a few times the magic wears off and the drug(imo) is useless.
MDA however will keep destoying brain cells as long as you want to take it.
Put an amphetamine chain on known phychedelic compounds and you have an agressive drug which knows how to party.
So are people in the drugs trade buisness people?
Is trade retention an important part of buisness?
Why make a drug that is good for a few times and then wears off?
Wouldn't it be better to produce a more enjoyable product that doesn't?
I just don't understand the thinking
 
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adam phinel said:
Weve been doing those here in UK. My man tells me they have mdma and mda in them. Can't confirm that but when I did a few I did get trippy visuals where some of my friends faces began to look like young children??
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They don't contain mda
 
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