We want our MDA/Speed/MDEA/MDMA mix pills back NOW/MDMA isn't MDMA bollocks

[missing old pills]

I been thinking a bit lately about the arguments between the happy ones and the let down ones.
It seems to me that on the whole it is a generation thing.
You young'uns think we oap's are burnt up and can't feel it and you spring chickens are having the time of your lives.
I do know where you're coming from.
Let me bore you with another one of my stories!
Before I took ecstasy(yes I was frightened of the stuff) I took either speed or trips or a combo of the two. My friends and I told each other that we buzzed to fuck off the acid we had. Secretly I hated the stuff but that would not be cool to admit. It made me feel like shite. Now and again depending what we'd had or set and setting and all that bollocks I'd have a laugh with it but on the whole I didn't like it very much.
While I was on leave from the army I went with my mates to my first Glastonbury. What a fucking top weekend. I can't remember what trips we had but we were popping them like pringles saying stuff like "wow I'm fucked" etc you know the score.
We bumped into these old mad hippies who started taking the piss out of us and laughing at what we were boasting about taking " yea man we're on our sixth trip man" was the sort of shit we were gobbing about.
Anyway one of the hippies invited us into their tent and asked us if we wanted to try their stuff and we agreed.
In about 15 minutes flat I lay back and started to feel pretty fucking weird. I felt a gentle buzz in my head and a bit numb in my body. Then everything seemed to get brighter and covered in a kind of heat haze. I started to panic a little and one of the hippies told me to "chill I was cool"
I closed my eyes and it was mad as fuck. Noises outside seemed far away and noises in the tent made me see little flashes of colour. I felt horny as fuck which I never had done before on acid and really warm. That lasted for a while and then I started feeling really cold and started thinking about serious shit in my life. This went on for a while over and over again until bam it was all sorted for some reason. I opened my eyes and this mad hippie was looking at me and said "see, no problems mate". Weird as fuck.
Everyone had a ready brek glow round them and then we all started chatting shit and laughing like I had never laughed before.
It was fucking brilliant these mad heads had been at it since the sixties and were full of fucking brilliant stories and experiences.
It was one of the best drug experiences I had even now!
I didn't take much acid after that because I got into my pills but none came anywhere near.
I know this is a bit off thread but I just feel has something to add because at the time as an 18 year old I thought I knew it all and these old cunts were full of shit.
I was never so pleased to be proved wrong. MOP

 

[captain codshit]

I have the answer to the whole problem. Make your own capsule. Say 125mg white crystal, 50mg strong speed. Or 125mg strong speed and 25mg meth! Oooft Euphoria to the absolute maximum i'd imagine...

 

[missing old pills]

I have the answer to the whole problem. Make your own capsule. Say 125mg white crystal, 50mg strong speed. Or 125mg strong speed and 25mg meth! Oooft Euphoria to the absolute maximum i'd imagine...

Maybe Mr codders maybe!

 

[dee_dee]

I have the answer to the whole problem. Make your own capsule. Say 125mg white crystal, 50mg strong speed. Or 125mg strong speed and 25mg meth! Oooft Euphoria to the absolute maximum i'd imagine...

lol. i can see where your coming from with that one. speeds not really something i like. only ever done it a handful of times ever and that was before i even started taking pills. i just find it leaves me grotty. i guess its all down to personal preference, the buzz off speed has never justified the comedown for me. ecstacy on the other hand, has always for me appeared to be worth it. rewinding blimey, well lets not go there but ashamedly years and years ago now, i even used to dismiss speedy e's back in the day, if i tried them once id never go back and do them again.

i have given this grey crystal the benefit of the doubt 3 times now, and im not going to be anymore. that kinda suits me fine anyhow, youve got loads of crazy madness ahead of you im sure still yet, lol. me on the other hand is an entirley different kettle of fish.

im just not sure how to explain it really. at the beginning of taking on the come up of mdma or mda from my experience, there is almost even a scary haunting kind of feeling that goes straight through you. the rushes are unmistakable. they cannot be mimicked imho. if you read what ive put theres little kinda things that point me in the direcction that this may contain something along those lines in terms of noticable side effects, but if it is, the experience is still not right. it feels to heavy. the whole experience isnt light and airy enough, and i dont necessarily mean dancing like mad or anything. those cold rushes and tingles that play on your nervous system and the kinda light butterflies in your stomache just do not happen. u can feel the drug starting to pump through the blood in your veins on the real thing years ago on a decent dose, dare i say if it was made corretly (expects slating here)

its a hard one, the somewhat daft way i describe things, its not easy to put into words

 

[hx_]

i have given this grey crystal the benefit of the doubt 3 times now, and im not going to be anymore. that kinda suits me fine anyhow, youve got loads of crazy madness ahead of you im sure still yet, lol. me on the other hand is an entirley different kettle of fish.

The grey crystal that was around earlier this year was almost unanimously agreed on as a bit dirty/lacking/weak by many. Mefinks you may have the same stuff. I had some a month and a bit ago, bombed over a quarter gram and was disappointed, didn't even come up properly; smelled right, looked right, tasted right, not great effects. Was buzzing for about 3-4 hours before it wore of rather quickly - went to take the rest and realised I'd lost it!

At the mo the real quality stuff that is has been around in plentiful supply (multiple dealers at one club with the same stuff and friends who can get it in 3, non-bordering, county's) in the Bristol area has been dubbed "Kryptonite" for its appearance and effects "It'll even fuck superman up!" is the patter I've heard from one dealer.

Silly brand name I know, but its consistent quality, always has a strong saffrole smell and comes in large crystals. The larger they are the greener the colour. As it breaks down it gets creamier and whiter, but still when broken down to ~2mm pieces and put infront of a pure white light it shows a lime green tint. Been getting this off multiple random dealers in Bristol clubs for just over 3 months now and it hits the spot every time. Stronger than some of the pure white crystal I've had, weight for weight!

this does contain mdea or mdma but it doesnt feel satisfactory
what are people doing who are making this stuff?
is it possible a crystal of mdma is already cut in the making process so it contains other ingredients to?

Crystals of most substances can form with multiple impurities present, and these can be any colour, including completely transparent. A 0.5% coloured impurity can change the colour of a crystal or powder dramatically, conversely a 30% impurity may be undetectable by eye if it is a clear crystal that fits into the lattice of MDMA molecules.

From wikipedia on crystallisation

there are instances when impurities incorporate into the lattice, hence, decreasing the level of purity of the final crystal product. Also, in some cases, the solvent may incorporate into the lattice forming a solvate. In addition, the solvent may be 'trapped' (in liquid state) within the crystal formed, and this phenomenon is known as inclusion.

"Inclusion" is why you sometimes smell saffrole strongly when you break open crystals,

im just not sure how to explain it really. at the beginning of taking on the come up of mdma or mda from my experience, there is almost even a scary haunting kind of feeling that goes straight through you. the rushes are unmistakable. they cannot be mimicked imho.

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those cold rushes and tingles that play on your nervous system and the kinda light butterflies in your stomache just do not happen. u can feel the drug starting to pump through the blood in your veins on the real thing years ago on a decent dose, dare i say if it was made corretly (expects slating here)

its a hard one, the somewhat daft way i describe things, its not easy to put into words

The rushes and tingles I find to be much more pronounced and unique when using a bit of speed alongside MDMA, and speed is know to have been used in pills, especially pills from "back in the day" that you are comparing to todays products.

EDIT: wow thats gotta be my longest post on bluelight! I blame the MDPV, now to get back to sorting out my Hackintosh, talk about sidetracked!

 

[missing old pills]

Good to hear from you mate. I'm yet to try this 'kyrptonite' so I cannot comment. I do hope it's good for you all down Bristol and you are having a great time. Nice bit of information hx

 

[hx_]

Yeah if you get offered any creamy green coloured stuff and it smells of saffrole be sure to snap it up. I reckon if you bomb 180mg along with 50mg of speed, or even a couple of proplus (seriously!), I really think that would provide the exact experience you're longing for. Go to a good club night with ONLY your kind of music playing too, like back in the day

 

[missing old pills]

Sounds good mate thank you very much. I'll keep my eyes open, unfortunatly the speed around where I am has took a serious nose dive in the past 10 years(pardon the pun) so another stim may have to do the job. Here's hoping!

 

[hx_]

Believe it or not Caffeine should help, it was an ingredient in some of the classic pills and has been hypothesised as a reason (along with speed/MDA mixes) why MDMA was* a different experience to most MDMA containing pills.

*Notice past tense, I have a feeling most of the current "superEXPENSIVEpills" are just MDMA, colouring and binder.

 

[dee_dee]

kool. well im still going to be about having a read but i think thats probally my lot for a little while. and if you havent noticed, i can be accomodating when others are accomodating too. i think its something called respect. this post has obviously toned right down the last couple of days, probally due to my change in the way i may say things, but then theres always the flip side to the coin isnt there?

i dont have a test kit, i have no desire to have one. to me something should be as it says on the tin. i think i probally no by now what the contents of that tin taste like, id be a bit of a fool not to im sure youd agree. if mixmag article going back to the 90's of police analysis reports are correct, then i no whats in a handful of the most out of this world experiences of my life, and there on a parr with some from the late 80's too.

alot of the branded infamous pills that got people back into ecstacy in the first place imo after small droubts in years gone by were a little overrated anyway, you could tell they had changed. the first doves that appeared after a shitty mini droubt, the first white mitsubishis that appeared again after a mini droubt, they were satisfactory and everyone started ranting and raving about them, e's back. and yes, it appeared so, these pills were clever, they flooded the place everywhere and people gained interest in doing them again. think its already well documented that these periods are when chemicals have been no longer available so the manafactuers have to work at well, one can only begin to guess at new methods of doing things. its ironic probally the best pill ive taken in my life was the rather wild snowball in 1992, and allegedly that pill ONLY EVER contained mda at more than likely considered a risky dose. i have had taken pills in the late 80's that hit the spot exactly the same although definitley mdma as the difference is definitley noticable. of course there have been others, but i cant be arsed sitting here racking my brain right now, and most of them were in the days when things like pretty colours, shapes and pictures counted for very little.

this grey md could more than likely contain an md substance and yes maybe its been made wrong which means it weak, its always a possibility. whats wrong is that the tale tell siigns that this is md are more the clues from side effects ie only wanting to have litle snacks the next day, the pissing, clammy skin the globules in front of the eyes during the week following, more so rather than the actually feeling itself being spot on, but i am ever the diplomat sititng on the fence so i shall refrain from further judgment.

didnt go into such heavy analysis of the pink diamond, again, it made me stand up and take notice but not enough to be entirley convinced.

i shall wait and give myself some time to get back to normal before i consider going through all this malarkey again.

thanks to some of the more friendly people on here and im always about if you wanna pm me, i may even drop into a thread and have something to say when im in the mood. some of you may like it and some of you may not.

last point, this site is fishy period, dont really care if its used as some kind of shopping channel tbh, none of my buisness i have a life outside of occasionally using myself as some kind of random guinea pig at my own expense waiting for the day somone impresses me, and im not easily impressed.

thanks for mop for your support and possibly some mods i suspect, maybe a little overprotective but thats kool in a funny kind of way.

ill shut my gob for now, bet your thinking it wont last for very long. who knows....

 

[MrM]

Well i recently got the chance to try the new 'green 140' pills (green with the number 140 stamped on them). These are some of these new £10 so called super-pills.

I would say they was as good and probably a bit stronger than most of the pills i was taking back in 2003-2005 but as you could get 3 of those for the price of one of these the old pills where better value for money.

Still, i'm happy to see decent ecstasy available again and i don't mind paying that much if i have to if it at least means i get pills that aren't piprazenes or chalk dust.

 

[tm1210 mk2]

I have the answer to the whole problem. Make your own capsule. Say 125mg white crystal, 50mg strong speed. Or 125mg strong speed and 25mg meth! Oooft Euphoria to the absolute maximum i'd imagine...

Quality rushes as well I'd imagine

 

[adam phinel]

One thing I was thinking about was a question for you guys who say MDs not as good now:

What do you get up to when you are doing the MD?

The reason I ask is that I feel everyone is missing out a massive thing that is the natural feelings combined with the effects of MDMA.

For example when you were young the things you were doing that you take for granted in themselves would add massively to the buzz you feel. Like when your young even the event of going out to a club is a big rush cos you've never done it before. You feel nervous, butterfly's. Then you enter this rave booming bass, lazers, you've never seen anything like it wow what a rush.

Thats nothing to do with MDMA it's just part of growing up.

Now add MDMA feelings to the mix and the fact you are partaking in a brand new rave movement, new drug. Nobody knows what's gonna happen next. I don't believe a drug can cause all the feeling you felt back then. The drug was part of the experience but it wasn't the total reason.

I guess the point i'm trying to make is that now after we have all experienced this when we were young of course nothing will compare now. Specially if your just sat at home with the wife!

I was there since the early 90s raving. I am 35 now I still feel the full effects of MDMA but I guess as I am also aware what was not the MDMA but moments you will not be able to recreate any more, simply because you have been there done that already.

 

[captain codshit]

I reckon the best pills I ever did were the Blue Playstations of 2004ish, labtested as 100mg and 60mg MDA if I recall correctly, sure it was Evad who told me.

Clean MDMA is amazing and a great drug. But I'd say I preffered the old skool pills with MDA in them too. Talking clean MDMA pills I've never had anything like the transparent white crystal I'm getting now. I did 200-250mg to start on Friday and it blew my nut off, chatting absolute gutterslush rolling around the couch completely spanieled!

I've been thinking though, what about mixing MDMA in caps with the Chef's secret ingredients? Make your own Super Pills!

 

[adam phinel]

I did some capsules with about 150mg and half a pro plus crushed into it. It does seem to make it hit you stronger and quicker with alot more rushes. I would say quite a different experience than straight mdma. I do remember reading in a book once that a typical 90's pill would contain 90mg mdma 60mg mdea and 25mg caffine.


I would love to hear the OP's comments on my post above about natural feelings added to mdma though.

 

[captain codshit]

I was thinking 125mg MDMA, 25mg meth and 10mgs 2c-b would make an unbelievable pill! %) :D

I did 140mg MDMA with 100mg of orange phet one night was rushy as fuuuck!

Pity it's near impossible to track down MDA to add to the wipe out!!!

 

[Jblazingphoenix100]

I would rather have caffeine in the mix than amphetamine - I would like the chance of my penis working.

120mg MDMA, 80mg caffeine =Top night dancing your ass off, with a big satisfied smile on ya face.

I have yet to try my guarana tincture giving a pure MDMA pill a boost. I shall report back.

 

[dee_dee]

One thing I was thinking about was a question for you guys who say MDs not as good now:

What do you get up to when you are doing the MD?

The reason I ask is that I feel everyone is missing out a massive thing that is the natural feelings combined with the effects of MDMA.

For example when you were young the things you were doing that you take for granted in themselves would add massively to the buzz you feel. Like when your young even the event of going out to a club is a big rush cos you've never done it before. You feel nervous, butterfly's. Then you enter this rave booming bass, lazers, you've never seen anything like it wow what a rush.

Thats nothing to do with MDMA it's just part of growing up.

Now add MDMA feelings to the mix and the fact you are partaking in a brand new rave movement, new drug. Nobody knows what's gonna happen next. I don't believe a drug can cause all the feeling you felt back then. The drug was part of the experience but it wasn't the total reason.

I guess the point i'm trying to make is that now after we have all experienced this when we were young of course nothing will compare now. Specially if your just sat at home with the wife!

I was there since the early 90s raving. I am 35 now I still feel the full effects of MDMA but I guess as I am also aware what was not the MDMA but moments you will not be able to recreate any more, simply because you have been there done that already.

Yep. I understand what your saying completley. being a single guy with no ties i still have the luxury of a good social life as and when it suits, i can take or leave that lifestyle tbh, but when I do i guess I like to do all the normal thigns alot of you may do, specially as i used to work in a nightclub for A while where, shall we say house music is played and people like to dance. thats my usual choice of setting, although not exclusivley so. i still am always on a high when i go out, because it is a treat, and i very much look forward to my occasional treats of going out and letting off some steam, i feel like i deserve it as long as when its suitable and appropriate for me. from your point of view id even be happy tot ake off 10 per cent of my experiences of what i expect md**'s to do to me, but this stuff ive tried probally dont even touch that. i dont think ive lost it at all, tis been proven to me myself going way back after droughts thats its happened all over again for me, and in some cases even better. sure thats along time ago now, but i havent hardly munched anything for 4 years, thats been my choice, because im fed up of being a slave to consuerism for an industry that appears to not care about me anymore quite frankly (imo)

i have this kind of strange vision of maybe some people imaging me sitting here in my rocking chair with my pipe and slippers listening to des o' conner or something, lol, that couldnt be further than the truth,. trust me....

 

[missing old pills]

I did some capsules with about 150mg and half a pro plus crushed into it. It does seem to make it hit you stronger and quicker with alot more rushes. I would say quite a different experience than straight mdma. I do remember reading in a book once that a typical 90's pill would contain 90mg mdma 60mg mdea and 25mg caffine.


I would love to hear the OP's comments on my post above about natural feelings added to mdma though.

I've not forgot pal! I'm at work at the mo and not able to deliver
one of my increadibly boring stories. When I finish and get tucked in bed I'll get to it.

 

[missing old pills]

Right here we go Adam. I'm 6 and a half hours into my shift and time for a break. Anyone who wants to be a hgv 1 driver, bit of advice DONT!
Yes, I totaly agree with you on set and setting. There is no way I could repeat my early days they have gone. I totaly agree with you that the experience is not going to be the same even if I had the exact chemicals as then.
I remember my best feeling I ever had was at Shellys nightclub at the start if the 90's.
We all met up in a pub in Stockport, had a couple of drinks and bought our individual poisons. Then it was in the cars and convoy time down to Stoke.
I loved that club at the time as it always attracted all the top dj's at the time and even Sasha had his own residency there.
A couple of hours in and I was my usual fucked up state floating around the dancefloor on my cloud not being able to see and being kept up by people I bumped into. Fuck me if I'd been in a mainstream club I'd have never made it out alive!
Anyway I was busy doing my usual daft tricks of sniffing my vicks,rubbing my poppers on my chest and trying to light my spliff with my fucking lipsil!
Then bam! The Prodigy dived onto the stage to the sound of 'your love' it was fucking ecstatic. I have and never been able to go anywhere near how I felt that night.
I funny thing happened once they fucked off and the dj came back on.
I felt as if I was buzzing( as in vibration) all over my body. I walked all over the club until I saw this lad sat on the stage. He just looked at me and said "yea I know what you mean mate 'buzzing'".
Fucking tripped me out big time.
So yes I'm with you on that mate but even so I had some great times just dropping with mates or chilling at home but you're spot on mate. There is no comparison. MOP