wd free - kratom is saving me.

[wanderlustfully]

ive read a lot of forums on bluelight, for a lot of years. im an addict, who chooses to struggle with the highs and lowes of opiate use. for the last few months ive been using daily, for the last month ive been just using enough to not get sick for most part of the day. ive been draining my bank accounts and ive been miserable knowing that im a prisoner to this drug, being reminded each time i dont want to cop but do it anyway. i came across a forum about kratom while researching endlessly for a way to detox without prescription help and i became interested and curious, so i read up a lot on it. i decided to try it, granted im on day one... i last used 60mg of roxi last night around 8:00pm. i woke up around 7:00 am, sick as expected, and took 5gs of kratom i had bought last night. within 30 mins, the burning feeling in my stomach had left, the cramps in my lower intestines are gone, my mindset is clear and im not depressed and filled with anxiety, i have energy and i don't feel lagged or fatigue, i almost want to cry out of joy that ive come across something that is taking away what ive been so scared to face, im experiencing little to no withdrawal. im sweating a little more then usual, but that's really the only discomfort thus far. i plan on decreasing my dosages every two days and only take the kratom when withdrawal symptoms begin to be noticeable. im beyond grateful to have come across this herb, and i know it's been around for years, but im now just discovering it... and so far it's been a miracle for me. im currently present at work and im able to function normally. i should be shivering in a cold sweat miserable in bed right now. i dont deserve this relief, but im surely embracing it.

 

[flyingsod]

That's great that it is working for you. I've experimented with it and had some positive results from a recreational standpoint. I will confirm for you however the reports that say overdosing with it will cause the most unpleasant nausea you can imagine. Any tiny movement caused me to feel as if vomiting was imminent. However no amount of movement (twirling and thinking of gross things included) would actually cause vomiting which would have at least given me a few minutes respite from the nausea. I sat in my parked vehicle for a few hours till the effect subsided enough for me to walk to the house. Watch your dosing carefully is my advice. Good luck to ya.

 

[Seattle_Stranger]

So good to hear! Just be careful because it can be just as psychologically addicting, and physical withdrawal symptoms DO exist, though they're nothing compared to classic opiates.

Regarding the nausea, yes dosing too high OR on too empty of a stomach will make you queezey, however if I just man-up and puke it out, I feel better than fine immediately. It's not one of those super-deep and sickly nauseous feelings where you feel actually infected, it's one that is clearly being caused by simply too much yucky stuff in your tummy and stops as soon as the yucky stuff is removed from the equation.

 

[whiteroom67]

I recently used Kratom to get off of oxycontin, though my experience is a little different and muddier than yours in a sense. I was on and off with oxy for several years, though the "off" time was definitely larger than the "on" time, thankfully. Still though, I have no delusions about not being an addict. Anyway about a year and a half ago, not long about a month or so after stopping oxy (again), I discovered Kratom and quickly fell in love with it. Keep in mind I was through oxy withdrawal already, so at this point Kratom was just a replacement for the recretional aspect. I pretty much fell into using it every day of course, though most of the time only once a day at the end of the day after work and the gym, and at a pretty low-maybe moderate dose, around 4 or 5 grams or so. I stopped a couple of times for several days to up to a week and experienced only minor withdrawals really, though I did notice an extra depression/anxiety aspect of withdrawal that seemed different from oxy. Still, it wasn't too horrible and ended fairly quickly. Well fast forward to a year later and not only had I started dosing twice a day for a few months, but I started messing around with oxy again too. My tolerance started rising. I started dosing Kratom maybe 3 times a day several days a week. Then I went for surgery. I started taking oxy throughout the day, with several doses of Kratom on top of it, for a few weeks. Not long, but every addict can tell you how quickly a previously addicted body will readapt. Well, it did. After 2 weeks halfway through my med leave from work I stopped the oxy but stayed on the Krat, and experienced only minor withdrawal. Right after my medical leave was over (perfect timing), I stopped the Kratom too, and thought it would only be slightly more difficult than the times before. Shit was I wrong. Horribly wrong. It was horrific, like oxy and Kratom withdrawal combined. That anxiety and depression showed its true potential - severe, crippling, almost psychotic, suicidial despondency with a sense of empty hollowness that I can't even begin to describe. Forget the physical symptoms - they suck alright, especially the restless legs, but the psychological part was the WORST. I couldn't do it, I had to get gabapentin, which really worked miracles for me, and then all the other Thomas recipe stuff on top of it. Needless to say even after that I still relapsed a little bit, which only delayed the process since it hadn't even come close to full working itself out yet. At this point, it's been probably about 2 months or so since that point, with a couple of sporadic uses in between. I feel better, but still definitely not normal. Physically yeah I'm fine really, but mentally no. It's the first time I really knew what PAWS is. It's getting better, but slowly. I'll have good days, and I'll have bad days. A lot of days I will wake up shitty but then by the time work is over I feel good again. It probably didn't help that I used a few too many benzos in the early part of recovery too, probably increasing rebound anxiety. If I could go back I only would've used about half the benzos I did if that. Just know that you probably didn't completely cheat withdrwal (unless you are one of the lucky ones) and don't get too caught off guard if stopping the Kratom isn't as easy as you think it will be. You can definitely do it, just don't stay on it long and don't get caught off guard, and have your recovery plan ready to go.