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wat gets rid of a gut

sober2 said:
What is? Running sit ups stepper?
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What made you get a gut? Eating the wrong foods? Getting older? Not exercising at all?

To lose weight its a simple equation. Calories in< Calories out. You have to burn more calories than you consume.

Running burns calories, sit ups/core workouts burn calories, walking on a stairstepper burns calories. Pick one and stick to it. Nothing is instantaneous especially when trying to shed a lot of body fat.

Things to help accelerate this process: cut out or lower alcohol intake, cut out carbonated drinks, lower carbohydrate intake or find healthier sources of carbs (complex carbs > simple carbs), eat breakfast to kickstart the metabolism, don't starve yourself and eat appropriately.

I'm not going to recommend using any stimulants because this is the Healthy Living section and we generally don't promote using compounds to alleviate poor exercise/diet choices.
 
sober2 said:
How do I know how many calories are in something? It's not listed on the back?
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There is online resources that cover just about everything we eat. http://nutritiondata.self.com/

This is what I use if I'm crafting a complete diet from top to bottom in reference to planning every single little food I'm eating ahead of time.

Don't worry about counting out all the calories. Count your protein, carbohydrates and fats. Then you can calculate total calories from there.

Protein per gram- 4 calories
Carbohydrate per gram- 4 calories
Fats per gram- 9 calories
 
I've recently started taking this stuff called
Probio slim I got it at GNC the stuff is amazing 5Lbs hone in the first wk
Also helps with bloating
 
bncglock_40 said:
I've recently started taking this stuff called
Probio slim I got it at GNC the stuff is amazing 5Lbs hone in the first wk
Also helps with bloating
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Nice on the beginning results. However, the first bit of weight is just glycogen or subcutaneous water weight. Some individuals carry a substantial amount of water. It isn't uncommon for a person to possess 10-20 pounds of water weight.

That bloat was probably water.
 
This whole societal perplexity over weight loss is incredibly silly and needlessly complicated.

If you want to lose weight, simply reduce your daily food intake. That's it. No special diet, no counting carbs, and no other puerile and extraneous malarkey required.

It doesn't matter the quality of food, rather the quantity is all that needs to be considered.
 
Nom de Plume said:
This whole societal perplexity over weight loss is incredibly silly and needlessly complicated.

If you want to lose weight, simply reduce your daily food intake. That's it. No special diet, no counting carbs, and no other puerile and extraneous malarkey required.

It doesn't matter the quality of food, rather the quantity is all that needs to be considered.
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I understand where you are coming from. In relation to nutrition in the fitness element, you can eat super low quality foods as long as you eat under your TDEE. However, eating food that isn't nutrient dense with appropriate macros you also risk LBM along with your excess adipose tissue. LBM is more metabolically active than our fat and saving as much LBM as possible only accelerates the weight loss process.

The big thing is people think there is some super secret to losing X amount of weight within Y amount of time. Everyone wants results, but doesn't want to do the research or the work to bring them to that achievement.

You can lose weight by just drinking water for a week. Will you feel great? No. Will you have that hollywood slim look? Depending on where you start, I'm sure its getting there.
 
GrymReefer said:
I understand where you are coming from. In relation to nutrition in the fitness element, you can eat super low quality foods as long as you eat under your TDEE. However, eating food that is nutrient dense with appropriate macros you also risk LBM along with your excess adipose tissue. LBM is more metabolically active than our fat and saving as much LBM as possible only accelerates the weight loss process.

The big thing is people think there is some super secret to losing X amount of weight within Y amount of time. Everyone wants results, but doesn't want to do the research or the work to bring them to that achievement.
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I'm a guy, 176 cm tall (~5'9") and weigh about 61.2 kg (135 lb), for a BMI of about 19.2.

I have maintained this weight for years, because whenever I notice myself gaining weight, I simply adjust my food intake and lose the excess weight in about a week or two.

I eat what I want and when I want. And while one's quality of diet is important for one's health, it's only the quantity that matters in terms of one's weight.

If I eat 20 kg of salad per day, I will gain more weight than if I only eat 3 or 4 Twinkies per day.
 
You definitely understand it! I wasn't trying to undermine you or anything. Some just can't grasp the concept of eating appropriately let alone eating healthily.

You should be thankful you actually have enough knowledge and are in tune with your body to recognize these signs. People usually notice it after they have ventured into the morbidly obese spectrum or simply try to ignore the festering problem because of an inability to cope with the inevitability.
 
sober2 said:
So just eat less but good food. Me dunno you use big words for me
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Eat less until you begin to lose weight. Then find that perfect spot and try to eat around that amount for a while. Your BMR won't lower too much after a few weeks of being in a hypocaloric environment.
 
Nom de Plume said:
I'm a guy, 176 cm tall (~5'9") and weigh about 61.2 kg (135 lb), for a BMI of about 19.2.

I have maintained this weight for years, because whenever I notice myself gaining weight, I simply adjust my food intake and lose the excess weight in about a week or two.

I eat what I want and when I want. And while one's quality of diet is important for one's health, it's only the quantity that matters in terms of one's weight.

If I eat 20 kg of salad per day, I will gain more weight than if I only eat 3 or 4 Twinkies per day.
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Don't forget the massive genetic factors that dictate why you stay at that weight and why you eat how you eat. Once you have become obese you may have already modulated the way your body secretes and interprets ghrelin, leptin, adiponectin and insulin. For instance the original OP says he has a gut and even though that is extremely vague, it could indicate a pretty moderate amount of adipose tissue. Adipose tissue produces the hormone leptin, but in individuals with insulin deficiency/desensitization, leptin cannot properly do its part at inhibiting hunger. Even though they may want to lose weight the body's metabolic hormones are no longer in proper order due to maladaptation.

Now I'm not saying this completely fits the situation, but majority of obese individuals also show signs of Hyperleptinemia. Having such high leptin plasma levels for so long have been known to cause desensitization at the CNS. If the body can't adequately tell the hypothalamus that it's energy demands are fulfilled due to desensitization at the receptors, then you will not get the proper signaling to alert that your completely full!

This is just a simplified explanation that calories in< calories out can be a little bit more complicated if someone has been obese for an extended period of time. If you're just hanging around at 10-12% body fat then you still are within range at controlling yourself. Once you have reached 20-30% body fat or even become labeled as morbidly obese, you have literally altered your body's interpretation and natural production of key metabolic hormones.

I generally do just stick to saying calories in < calories out because explaining all of that is confusing most of the time. Usually that equation works best with exercise though, not being completely sedentary. That is usually what got you in the position of thinking weight loss in the first place. Not everyone is the same. Some really do have to analyze more variables than simple caloric intake/expenditure because of what has become of their body's mechanics.
 
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When you say gut I assume just fat around the tummy region, not a bloated beer gut. What the hell is that anyway.. never understood that, is it inflammed GI tract? Like they're still fat but their belly is way out of proportion to the fat levels.

You can't reduce tummy fat without lowering your entire body fat levels.. its not possible to isolate one area. Anyway, to lose fat.. to lose weight.. you must consume less calories than you daily requirements. Google Basal Metabolic Rate Calculator, get a rough estimate, then reduce intake by 200-400 calories a day. You could just work out what you're eating now if your diet is stable and reduce by 200-400. Or, you could maintain the current level (assuming it's not way over your requirements already) and increase your exercise routine (to use more calories). Cardio on its own is silly.. you should pick up a weights routine and do that whilst making sure you're getting adequate protein each day. You'll gain a bit of strength whilst losing fat (unless you're a novice weights person already). Also, more muscle burns more calories!

If you just do cardio don't do jogging. I hate jogging with a passion, really fucks up my knees, and is boring as hell. Do cycling, swimming, jump rope, or rowing. Those are lower impact exercises.. jogging is really bad for your joints, especially if your posture is fucked already.
 
-=SS=- said:
When you say gut I assume just fat around the tummy region, not a bloated beer gut. What the hell is that anyway.. never understood that, is it inflammed GI tract? Like they're still fat but their belly is way out of proportion to the fat levels.
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I wouldn't say it is an inflamed GI tract because if that was responsible for the cliche "beer belly" then people would have a lot more problems. Severe inflammation of the GI is not a good sign.

For one carbonation of the beer creates a pretty modest bloat due to excessive gases (CO2) existing inside your stomach and intestinal tract. Also, males have predominantly less subcutaneous fat than females, but we possess more visceral fat. Especially in the abdominal region. In the end however genetic coding dictates where and how our body's store excess calories.
 
GrymReefer said:
Don't forget the massive genetic factors that dictate why you stay at that weight and why you eat how you eat. Once you have become obese you may have already modulated the way your body secretes and interprets ghrelin, leptin, adiponectin and insulin. For instance the original OP says he has a gut and even though that is extremely vague, it could indicate a pretty moderate amount of adipose tissue. Adipose tissue produces the hormone leptin, but in individuals with insulin deficiency/desensitization, leptin cannot properly do its part at inhibiting hunger. Even though they may want to lose weight the body's metabolic hormones are no longer in proper order due to maladaptation.

Now I'm not saying this completely fits the situation, but majority of obese individuals also show signs of Hyperleptinemia. Having such high leptin plasma levels for so long have been known to cause desensitization at the CNS. If the body can't adequately tell the hypothalamus that it's energy demands are fulfilled due to desensitization at the receptors, then you will not get the proper signaling to alert that your completely full!

This is just a simplified explanation that calories in< calories out can be a little bit more complicated if someone has been obese for an extended period of time. If you're just hanging around at 10-12% body fat then you still are within range at controlling yourself. Once you have reached 20-30% body fat or even become labeled as morbidly obese, you have literally altered your body's interpretation and natural production of key metabolic hormones.

I generally do just stick to saying calories in < calories out because explaining all of that is confusing most of the time. Usually that equation works best with exercise though, not being completely sedentary. That is usually what got you in the position of thinking weight loss in the first place. Not everyone is the same. Some really do have to analyze more variables than simple caloric intake/expenditure because of what has become of their body's mechanics.
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Indeed, there are genetic and I will submit epigenetic variables and mechanics at play here.

But while I may be such that I can consume X amount of food per day and not gain weight, whilst an equivalent individual (in terms of demographics and body dimensions — weight, height, etc.) may consume X amount of food per dayand gain or lose mass, these variables are only measurable and deterministic for food consumption and make little difference in the case of food deprivation .

To recapitulate, these individual variables are only considerable in the case of food consumption, but are largely insignificant when a population is deprived of food and in a state of starvation.

When a group is starved and destitute of food and given only water, the genetic variables are only apparent in the rate and amount of weight lost. But given sufficient time, all the group will have become underweight.

There were no corpulent prisoners in Nazi concentration camps. There were probably 3 times fewer fat people in Auschwitz than there were survivors.
 
simple tips:

1) raise your metabolism: drink water between meals, cayenne or ginger during/after meals, coffee after breakfast
2) cut carbs out of your main daily meal (lunch, usually) and just stick with protein and veg

carbs are typically the main contributor to fat gain because it's so energy dense. complex carbs can be a complete meal on its own, it's pure overkill to add them to any meal where you have meat/fat
 
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