Was the Vaccine Designed to kill
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Agree 100%. I already have my suicide plan if they come for me. I have had literal nightmares about being sneakily given this stuff. I've been terrified of ever having to go to the hospital again because of how they might just jab me when I'm asleep, or if I ever need surgery. I will die on this hill, they are not injecting this stuff into my body. I too think something insidious could be in it. At the very least, it is poorly designed and dangerous.
The way people's minds have been taken over by all this really makes me wonder what's going on.
People power has been nullified. And if there's something in the vax that dumbs people down further, then there really is no hope.
If I was one of the world's most wealthy/powerful, in the past 150 years this would have been my plan: massive economic expansion and human reproduction to create as many humans as possible generating capital for research and development. Then when technology is advanced enough that a small number of us could live in paradise and continue advancing our own plans for a perfect civilization, I would begin reducing the global population and kill as many people as possible.
It seems like this giant growth model enterprise was to get us advanced enough that the most powerful could live in perpetual comfort and no longer be challenged. The rest are disposable.
Furthermore... their short term thinking lead to a population bottle neck that has become an existential threat, so they are taking care of it.
I've said for years that there are too many useless eaters on this planet and the growth model is unsustainable, so I'm not surprised at all by what's happening. I'm just surprised at how utterly stupid the average person is. I had more faith in people than you I guess... but for me, that faith is now gone.
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
Have you ever pondered the rationality of this fear? This is delusional level paranoia.
I agree, and point to your above obsession over secretly being jabbed by evil doctors and your suicide plan if that occurs, which is a bit ridiculous my friend.
From my perspective, the people who's minds have been taken over by covid crap are the people who are still so afraid of the vaccine they can't stop talking about it 3 years later and concoct a plan to suicide themselves should a sneaky doctor jab them in their sleep. I've heard more sane things in a psych ward.
AlsoTapered
Bluelighter
nRNA medicines began development in the 1980s so they are hardly new. It's merely an extension of viral-vector vaccines which were time-consuming and very specific.. but in fact, MOST of the covid vaccines so far granted an ML are of this type.
And it's not like research on covid began AFTER the pandemic began. Over 30 years ago coronaviruses were listed as one of the most likely zoonotic diseases to become a serious threat, So they have been studied for decades. People have spent entire careers studying coronaviruses BECAUSE they posed such a huge risk.
SARS was the first variant with the capacity to become a pandemic but it wasn't as hardy as covid outside a host and wasn't as communicable. Those factors along with various other factors such as the location of the outbreak and the fast actions of the appropriate authorities contained it. To most of us, it was somewhere near the bottom of the news and it seems very few understood the potential outcomes.
Zoonotic diseases are recognized threats and so well recognized that their is a world-wide early warning and response system governed by the WHO.
History is littered with examples of zoonotic diseases.
Rabies, Leptospirosis, Brucellosis, Toxoplasmosis, Tularemia, Salmonellosis, Anthrax, West Nile Virus, Cat-scratch disease, Cryptosporidiosis, Lyme disease, Giardiasis, Ringworm, Campylobacteriosis, Plague, Bird flu, Echinococcosis, Psittacosis, Ebola, Malaria, Influenza, Mycobacterium bovis,Trichinellosis, Rat-bite fever and so on.
The majority of them predate inoculation so nobody could have treated, much less made them.
People are sure to say 'oh, but we don't KNOW what bacterium or viruses caused plague' but we do. It has never been entirely eradicated and kills hundreds every year.
We also have examples such as Mary Mallon (more commonly known as 'Typhoid Mary') who was a super-spreader (asymptomatic carrier was the historic term) of typhoid. Even though she was repeatedly told this, she continued to gain employment as a cook and over about 12 years she infected hundreds and killed around 50 people (possibly over 100 but I'm using the lowest figures.
Then the authorities actually forced her into quarantine for 3 years. At the time germ theory wasn't accepted by all scientists and many considered her confinement to infringe her liberty,
She was released but soon discovered that while she could earn $20/month as a laundry worker, She could earn $60/month as a cook. She successfully applied for the job of cook at a hospital. Soon 30 people were infected and 2 died,
She was then handed down life quarantine, was sent to North Boarder island where she remained for 23 years.
Now US public health laws does actually allow for this but obviously people argued that it infringed her rights.
In this case I would argue that she was clearly aware that she was endangering the lives of others and simply continued to put people at risk for selfish reasons. She never claimed that she couldn't provide for herself as a laundry worker,
There are more recent examples of this behavior (including a doctor) but for legal reasons, their names are not made public. SARS saw 3 super-spreaders who are believed to have infected 20-30 people each. The problem is, we cannot currently detect a super-spreader before the fact. But if we could, should we isolate them if they refuse to be inoculated? Certainly it's easy to see it as an infringement of freedom but equally, knowingly putting others at potential risk without good reason infringes their rights?
I'm sure we soon will be able to identify super-spreaders.
I'm not taking a side, merely providing the facts (to the best of my knowledge) but I have to admit that my grandparents grew up before TB and polio (the most feared diseases) had any effective treatment. One even lived through the 1918 flu pandemic and could remember whole families dying.
So the fact that most developed nations HAVE reached levels of inoculation that confer herd immunity might incorrectly suggest to people that it was fake of some sort. What we have seen is the science proving to be correct.
And it's not like research on covid began AFTER the pandemic began. Over 30 years ago coronaviruses were listed as one of the most likely zoonotic diseases to become a serious threat, So they have been studied for decades. People have spent entire careers studying coronaviruses BECAUSE they posed such a huge risk.
SARS was the first variant with the capacity to become a pandemic but it wasn't as hardy as covid outside a host and wasn't as communicable. Those factors along with various other factors such as the location of the outbreak and the fast actions of the appropriate authorities contained it. To most of us, it was somewhere near the bottom of the news and it seems very few understood the potential outcomes.
Zoonotic diseases are recognized threats and so well recognized that their is a world-wide early warning and response system governed by the WHO.
History is littered with examples of zoonotic diseases.
Rabies, Leptospirosis, Brucellosis, Toxoplasmosis, Tularemia, Salmonellosis, Anthrax, West Nile Virus, Cat-scratch disease, Cryptosporidiosis, Lyme disease, Giardiasis, Ringworm, Campylobacteriosis, Plague, Bird flu, Echinococcosis, Psittacosis, Ebola, Malaria, Influenza, Mycobacterium bovis,Trichinellosis, Rat-bite fever and so on.
The majority of them predate inoculation so nobody could have treated, much less made them.
People are sure to say 'oh, but we don't KNOW what bacterium or viruses caused plague' but we do. It has never been entirely eradicated and kills hundreds every year.
We also have examples such as Mary Mallon (more commonly known as 'Typhoid Mary') who was a super-spreader (asymptomatic carrier was the historic term) of typhoid. Even though she was repeatedly told this, she continued to gain employment as a cook and over about 12 years she infected hundreds and killed around 50 people (possibly over 100 but I'm using the lowest figures.
Then the authorities actually forced her into quarantine for 3 years. At the time germ theory wasn't accepted by all scientists and many considered her confinement to infringe her liberty,
She was released but soon discovered that while she could earn $20/month as a laundry worker, She could earn $60/month as a cook. She successfully applied for the job of cook at a hospital. Soon 30 people were infected and 2 died,
She was then handed down life quarantine, was sent to North Boarder island where she remained for 23 years.
Now US public health laws does actually allow for this but obviously people argued that it infringed her rights.
In this case I would argue that she was clearly aware that she was endangering the lives of others and simply continued to put people at risk for selfish reasons. She never claimed that she couldn't provide for herself as a laundry worker,
There are more recent examples of this behavior (including a doctor) but for legal reasons, their names are not made public. SARS saw 3 super-spreaders who are believed to have infected 20-30 people each. The problem is, we cannot currently detect a super-spreader before the fact. But if we could, should we isolate them if they refuse to be inoculated? Certainly it's easy to see it as an infringement of freedom but equally, knowingly putting others at potential risk without good reason infringes their rights?
I'm sure we soon will be able to identify super-spreaders.
I'm not taking a side, merely providing the facts (to the best of my knowledge) but I have to admit that my grandparents grew up before TB and polio (the most feared diseases) had any effective treatment. One even lived through the 1918 flu pandemic and could remember whole families dying.
So the fact that most developed nations HAVE reached levels of inoculation that confer herd immunity might incorrectly suggest to people that it was fake of some sort. What we have seen is the science proving to be correct.
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Yeah, ha ha. Funny right? You are aware there is material in the public domain, both technological and ideological, that suggests that direct mind control is being sought. Patent US6506148B2, for example. That was filed in 2001, for the manipulation of the nervous system by pulsing EMF through TV/Computer screens. That was two decades ago. Do you honestly think the military industrial complex hasn't explored the various branches, from genetic, to nanotechnological, to RF system, etc? And then used one or more for the express purpose of controlling target subjects? What do you think MK-Ultra was, and that was half a century ago.. the motivation is clearly there, and it's safe to say we've probably come a long way in that time, don't you think?Yea, lack of intelligence and self-awareness is right
I'm not saying there is something in the vaccines. I don't know.
All I'm saying is, when you take everything all together: the insistence to get the world jabbed for something that is no more than the flu, including down to young children who are in zero danger, and when the DoD/Darpa is intimately connected with the jab technology. It doesn't exactly sit well, you dig?
The US and UK military industrial complex has a historical record of giving zero fucks about the public, willing to test various chemicals on them in secret. It's not hard to imagine that a highly compartmentalized military system, with ridiculously advanced technology, overseen by a handful of psychopathic fucks, could lead to something disastrous.
That sort of mind control you hint at in the patents is just marketing and it's been used for quite some time in advertising it has nothing to do with vaccines. Nothing I am personally aware of in the field of neuroscience and pharmacology would allow for mind control like you're suggesting, frankly it seems completely absurd to me as someone who does neuroscience research. The ways we control neurons in the lab right now requires highly targeted viral vectors to be injected directly into specific structures in the brain to express DREADDs or something like channel rhodopsin the latter of which also requires the implantation of fiber optics to activate the channel. On top of that the control over neural circuits is incredibly simple not in the way that you can elicit complex behaviors or modify thoughts. Nobody is injecting vaccines into your brain are they? The claim is asinine
AlsoTapered
Bluelighter
Well there are at least 7 companies that have independently produced vaccines with MLs. 2 in the US, one in the UK, one in Belgium, 2 in Russia and one in Argentina.
So that's one heck of a conspiracy.
China developed it's own vaccine (as of March 2023) and I believe India is close.
Of course, every nation wants it's OWN vaccine so that a nation which possesses one cannot use it as leverage.
But it goes to show what science is capable of when the money-taps are all turned on.
The advantage of mRNA vaccines is that when (not if) a virus mutates, it's much easier to modify it. VVVs (introduced in 1972) aren't quite as flexible. But VVVs work by inserting mRNA data into a harmless virus and said live virus is injected so surely they are the ones that look the most sinister.
But no internet in 1972 (well, not for the public) so no platforms for disinformation.
'Instead of tending towards a vast Alexandrian library the world has become a computer, an electronic brain, exactly as an infantile piece of science fiction. And as our senses have gone outside us, Big Brother goes inside. So, unless aware of this dynamic, we shall at once move into a phase of panic terrors, exactly befitting a small world of tribal drums, total interdependence, and superimposed co-existence. Terror is the normal state of any oral society, for in it everything affects everything all the time. In our long striving to recover for the Western world a unity of sensibility and of thought and feeling we have no more been prepared to accept the tribal consequences of such unity than we were ready for the fragmentation of the human psyche by print culture.'
-Marshall McLuhan 'The Gutenburg Galaxy' 1961.
So that's one heck of a conspiracy.
China developed it's own vaccine (as of March 2023) and I believe India is close.
Of course, every nation wants it's OWN vaccine so that a nation which possesses one cannot use it as leverage.
But it goes to show what science is capable of when the money-taps are all turned on.
The advantage of mRNA vaccines is that when (not if) a virus mutates, it's much easier to modify it. VVVs (introduced in 1972) aren't quite as flexible. But VVVs work by inserting mRNA data into a harmless virus and said live virus is injected so surely they are the ones that look the most sinister.
But no internet in 1972 (well, not for the public) so no platforms for disinformation.
'Instead of tending towards a vast Alexandrian library the world has become a computer, an electronic brain, exactly as an infantile piece of science fiction. And as our senses have gone outside us, Big Brother goes inside. So, unless aware of this dynamic, we shall at once move into a phase of panic terrors, exactly befitting a small world of tribal drums, total interdependence, and superimposed co-existence. Terror is the normal state of any oral society, for in it everything affects everything all the time. In our long striving to recover for the Western world a unity of sensibility and of thought and feeling we have no more been prepared to accept the tribal consequences of such unity than we were ready for the fragmentation of the human psyche by print culture.'
-Marshall McLuhan 'The Gutenburg Galaxy' 1961.
AlsoTapered
Bluelighter
BTW Random Fact - to join Russia's FSB 'Direct Measures' group, The Gutenburg Galaxy is REQUIRED READING.
That SHOULD be telling us something.
That SHOULD be telling us something.
No, the point is that it is possible to cause effects on the nervous system with the use of specific EMF frequencies and RF frequencies.
Just because you personally lack the imagination to see how it could be done is not an argument against the possibility. Aside from the fact you're not working in the military sector, your post is just typical of the mentality that we are all conditioned with via the education system, this heavily materialism based paradigm that sees human biology only in terms of elements, compounds, and genetics, and then completely understates the electrical aspect of it despite the fact that our nervous system (and heart) is inherently electrical by design.
You should know already that EMF and magnetic fields can affect sense perception, causing a whole range of effects. That science has already been done and it's public domain. You don't need to break the skull to induce these effects, it can be done completely externally. While you can't induce specific thoughts using these 'broad' energetic applications, you can induce states of mind, emotional reactions, or cause hallucinations. Even this could be weaponized. Say you can temper the emotional state of an entire population, or excite it, at certain times. That's enough to be able to socially engineer the entire population by pushing/pulling them along a certain track.
But actual thought control, that level of mind control. Your limitation was being able to physically invade the neurological structure and then elicit complex reactions. Personally I don't see it as a massive stretch that someone may have figured out a way to create an invasive compound that can pass the blood-brain barrier and then sit on/in the neurological structure as a 'web', a target, which could then be excited using external EMF to allow for more precise effects than the 'broad' approach aforementioned. Maybe even broadcasting data back out again - a two-way wireless low-latency exchange, hooked up to an AI system that can utilize that data along with everything else captured from all our cameras, microphones, and all the digital fingerprint information, and then compute the appropriate excitation response for whatever is required, that would be the holy grail for social engineering.
Yes it's 'sci-fi' speculation. They might not have anything that sophisticated. I don't know. I don't lose sleep over any of this stuff, it doesn't consume my thoughts on a daily basis and I don't go round telling people to chop down 5G towers. But I do know that the military is always decades ahead of where they claim to be publicly. Given we're talking nanotechnology publicly now, where do you think the military is at with that domain? And AI?
They have already built the global digital control grid infrastructure (five-eyes) in the aftermath of 9/11, and Snowden revealed just how much data they are collecting on everyone. I was making the same 'crazy sci-fi' assertions about that system before Snowden revealed what he did, and now it's just taken as common knowledge that they data-mine every piece of global digital communications. The British establishment wanted to create this type of system as far back as 1977 (Project Grid 77), where MI5 would have the various datasets of the publics information all in one place and able to search it - the project failed because the technology wasn't sophisticated enough then.
If they are willing to do that, if they are willing to lie multiple times to get us into wars, and all the rest, is it really so hard to believe in the possibility that they might go for something so all encompassing and evil on the level I'm insinuating? I really don't think it is beyond the realms of possibility. These people at the top are fucking deranged and history shows it quite clearly, and as the last three years shows there's more than enough willing accomplices in the military and public to help enforce something too.
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What, you're talking about transcranial magnetic stimulation? Have you seen evidence that it can cause hallucinations? Because I haven't
No that's definitely a huge stretch and it shows how little you know about pharmacokinetics why would a compound that has properties allowing it to cross the BBB just stay there? We metabolize and clear compounds, that makes zero sense. Not to mention on top of somehow magically making some sort of mystical "web" and somehow being able to magically control just the right neuronal systems based on what, chemical properties? That's not even close to being realistic especially with today's understanding of neuronal networks.
Yea I can tell you don't know but that apparently doesn't stop you from speculating about magical nonsense with zero even tangential evidence to back you up
That is one methodology yes, using magnetic fields. The 'broad' approach of using powerful magnetic fields - a more refined methodology of using RF-EMF that doesn't require powerful magnetic fields.
First result on Google, from MIT: Magnetically Induced Hallucinations Explain Ball Lightning, Say Physicists
There they are suggesting that ball lightning may be the result of induced hallucination caused by nearby lighting strikes. Sub-title is, "Powerful magnetic fields can induce hallucinations in the lab". Are you suggesting MIT are lying here then? There's a plethora of journal articles on the same search demonstrating the use of TMS to do the reverse in regards to Schizophrenia and dampening down visual/auditory hallucinations.
Do you want me to list out all the things that the public would have said were impossible at the time but which the military were actively working on and subsequently became a reality? Just because you can't see how it can be done from within your academic domain doesn't mean it is not possible.
I am allowed to speculate and it doesn't preclude the possibility of it being an actual possibility either. Just because you can't envision these possibilities doesn't mean it is not possible or that the military are not working on these things. Only being satisfied of a possibility after it becomes a reality just betrays your limited imagination.
We're talking in the context of a completely unnecessary, invasive, pharmaceutical procedure.. and personally I am not prepared to gamble my health on it given everything I have stated here. Mind control might not have any connection with it, but in my mind it's a possibility, that's all. There's numerous reasons not to take it, based on things we do know. The mind control possibility is just that, a possibility.
You're making a pretty massive jump from seeing flashes of light to complex mind controlling hallucinations
What I'm saying is that the current state of medical research is lightyears behind what you're claiming the military is hiding which is an insanely absurd claim. You think that the smaller research base of the military has somehow magically gained 200 years of knowledge without a single person knowing about it? Do you comprehend the claim you're making?
I'm also free to speculate that I'll give birth to a manatee from my anus but that doesn't mean it's remotely possible
What I'm saying is that the current state of medical research is lightyears behind what you're claiming the military is hiding which is an insanely absurd claim. You think that the smaller research base of the military has somehow magically gained 200 years of knowledge without a single person knowing about it? Do you comprehend the claim you're making?
I'm also free to speculate that I'll give birth to a manatee from my anus but that doesn't mean it's remotely possible
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Entire scientific theories can be upended by a single new piece of information or perspective, and entirely new domains opened up by likewise a single piece. What makes you so sure that hasn't happened, in one or perhaps multiple areas of scientific theory? It is entirely possible a highly compartmentalized hierarchical system could effectively develop science in parallel to the public domain without any of the researchers ever being aware of any overlap or the existence of the other domains. Military projects have been done this way for over a century, if only for basic security reasons relating to the project itself or site itself.
The Manhattan Project is a documented example of how this can work. You had hundreds of people working on something that if explained to the public - a device that could create a miniature Sun and level an entire city - would seem like utter delusional fantasy given current knowledge at the time. It appeared at the time to be lightyears ahead of where conventional understanding was at. Right? Not only that, but the project demonstrated the ability to manage information and not leak anything. You often hear that trope that it would be impossible to keep such things under wraps, but it has been done multiple times (stealth technology is another).
It only seems lightyears ahead, but in say 50 years time we'll look back and just go "ah yes, that's what it was" in the same way we can now open a textbook and have atomic weapons design explained succinctly in cartoon diagrams as if it were always just trite knowledge. Electricity was magic until it wasn't. Computing was fantasy that would always require devices the size of your house, until it wasn't.
I don't understand your belief of thinking the military isn't lightyears ahead of the public domain when the entire 20th century is testament to the fact they are.
The Manhattan project was based on publicly available cutting age science and the complexity of a nuclear reaction doesn't even come close to touching the complexity of the brain. You're grasping at straws
MK-Ultra actually succeeded, the official public word though was that it didn't. There are living victims who talk about it. I think the average person greatly underestimates what the compartmentalized agencies in the military and private sector are capable of. They are obsessed with control and domination of virtually every facet of life.
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AlsoTapered
Bluelighter
It failed and killed and damaged people along the way.
In fact, it's fantastic evidence of how non-scientists just like conspiracy theorists are at the far left of the Dunning-Kruger curve,
They would read a speculative article (often written by dubious people) and try it.
The uniformity of their failure is only anecdotal and not statistically valid. But it proves that those who know a little mistake how complex the reality is. They only got funding because the Russians were doing the same... and they also failed.
So? It's one thing to have theoretical physicists theorize the behaviour of nuclear material, and quite another to develop the technology necessary for creating a weapon. If were just a matter of using the 'publicly available cutting age science' there would have been no need for the Manhattan project in the first place.
I don't get why you are so desperate to deny the possibility. It's a fucking possibility. Deal with it. As has already been stated the motive has always been there, historically (and at present) the military has a keen interest in such technology. Elon Musk and the WEF are openly talking about mind-machine interface technology for fucks sake. And you're honestly telling me you don't think it's a possibility that they may have already gone a little bit further than Musk's Neuralink? Get real. The military is always two steps ahead of the curve, they have to be.
Yea and physicists theorized it without being asked by the government, no? You think neuroscientists wouldn't be able to theorize mind control if it were even remotely feasible with the current state of research? How are you not getting this. Einstein had to tell the government where the curve was they weren't ahead of shit lmao
"By the start of the war in September 1939, many scientists likely to be persecuted by the Nazis had already escaped. Physicists on both sides were well aware of the possibility of utilizing nuclear fission as a weapon, but no one was quite sure how it could be engineered. In August 1939, concerned that Germany might have its own project to develop fission-based weapons, Albert Einstein signed a letter to U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt warning him of the threat.[109]"
Nuclear weapon - Wikipedia
Elon Musk is a dumbass and has no idea what he's doing, the project is doomed to fail beyond the types of rudimentary interfaces we already have but of course he's going to move the goal posts and claim success
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AlsoTapered
Bluelighter
We denied nothing - we systematically proved using high-quality evidence that the facts as stated were patently untrue.
Bear in mind, we actually have a LOT of people who are highly qualified... but the first rule of BL is that nobody proclaims any formal qualifications because anyone can claim anything AND if someone wanted to 'prove' their qualifications, they would have to identify themselves and many cannot... manifold reasons exist for people needing to be anonymous. Which is a shame.
The project continued in different forms after its public end date.
People who use "Dunning-Kruger" like you just did never actually read the original Dunning-Kruger study. The term applies to research design, not human thinking.
This has nothing to do with the Dunning-Kruger effect or anything to do with what I said about the victims of MK-Ultra.
I don't really understand the meaning of what you said here, so you'll have to elaborate.
What I can comment on is that Russian research into psychism, the results of which are now more available to the public, shows that their government went a lot deeper in their investigations. I have a hard time believing that Russia was so thorough yet the USA just stopped when they said they did. They would not allow Russia to have such an advantage.