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Was the Vaccine Designed to kill

they always knew it would mutate

that's why their was never a vaccine for the common cold before all of this anyway - you can't stop the common cold with a vaccine so how are you going to stop covid, which is just another cold? yea it was more severe and deadly but so were the common colds at one time that we see today


the hope by the pharma companies were to continue to jab and jab and jab and then push it like the yearly flu vaccine, which also doesn't work

pre-pandemic, it was no coincidence that grocery stores had huge banners hanging above the outside of the stores that said GET YOUR FLU VACCINES HERE TODAY!


it's all a money grab and it's always been a money grab and it's all at the expense of the general public's health - which is just sick and twisted
 
alasdairm said:
hey, if somebody posts saying someone they know was vaccinated then died somehow carries weight around here then somebody posting that they were vaccinated and didn't die carries equal weight, right?
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Yes and no. It shouldn't carry equal weight. If my entire family was vaccinated and they all died shortly after receiving their vaccines, that would carry more weight than somebody else's family not dying.

Equality in this context only makes sense if a 50% survival rate is a reasonable thing to strive for.

For the risk/reward ratio to be justifiable, one vaccine death can't equal one virus death... you might say "who knows if they died from the vaccine, it could be co-incidental" but (in fairness) that also applies to virus deaths.

Young people aren't really dying from the virus. Obese people and old people are dying from the virus. A 90 year old person doesn't equal a 20 year old person and a 20 year old person doesn't equal a baby.

I'm not a big fan of the word equality.

i.e. none
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This is where you say to me zero equals zero, which is harder to argue with.

If you wrestle a crocodile and die and somebody else wrestles a crocodile and doesn't die, these situations don't equally influence whether or not crocodiles are dangerous or whether or not it is a good idea to wrestle them.

actually, it should carry more weight because in the case of the former, post hoc ergo propter hoc.
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actually, it shouldn't carry more weight because: Pootie Gooseman, Chronicle Slob Flopper.

but in the case of the latter we know 100% the vaccine did not kill them.
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I'm more concerned about things killing me than not killing me.

alasbirdm

;)
 
Las Veghost grower said:
it’s obviously about money not killing people off
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there are people - some here - who say it's obviously about killing people off. who's right?


bird.brain said:
If my entire family was vaccinated and they all died shortly after receiving their vaccines, that would carry more weight than somebody else's family not dying.
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perhaps. do you know of any cases of that happening?

alasdair
 
How are so many people absolutely convinced that the vaccine is killing athletes, but seemingly fail to consider that actual COVID could have contributed to their death/heart problems?

The vaccine can cause myocarditis and lead to spike protein circulating in your blood. Guess what else does that, to an even larger extent. COVID infection.

And since the vaccine is so ineffective at preventing infection, most vaccinated people have also caught COVID by now.
 
porkstock said:
How are so many people absolutely convinced that the vaccine is killing athletes, but seemingly fail to consider that actual COVID could have contributed to their death/heart problems?
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Because they need to believe it to fuel their self-righteousness.
 
The real scam regarding the vax is that despite the global damage its caused, its introduction unfortunately coincided with the pandemic finally coming under some control. To add insult to injury, although everyone knows that its more harmful than Covid - 19 its impossible to prove due to the fact that through sheer luck of the stats supporting the propaganda - the UK has seen a quarter million deaths compared to the 5 whole people who's deaths were directly attributable to the vaccine. When you add the coincidence of the large UK uptake being followed by a drastic improvement in the pandemic's effect on public health, it feels impossible to impress the most important anecdotal evidence on people.
 
steewith2ees said:
although everyone knows that its more harmful than Covid - 19 its impossible to prove
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What? How does anyone know it's more harmful if it's impossible to prove?

Think about what you're saying.

Who proved it to you?
 
steewith2ees said:
To add insult to injury, although everyone knows that [the vaccine is] more harmful than Covid - 19.
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Here's some anecdotal evidence for you. I got two Pfizer shots and got a pretty sore arm. Many months later, I caught COVID as was sick as shit for about a week. Which one was worse?
 
porkstock said:
Here's some anecdotal evidence for you. I got two Pfizer shots and got a pretty sore arm. Many months later, I caught COVID as was sick as shit for about a week. Which one was worse?
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I can relate to that. I understood from the get that the range of serious health consequences included patients that only had mild symptoms and when my weed man made it clear that he was not concerned with social distancing at all I was instantly shown up for taking mitigation seriously, as someone who has always been susceptible to anything that could compromise my breathing I was desperate to avoid infection due to the certainty of my lungs being fucked by this thing.

As a self isolated loser it was easy for me to avoid high risk situations and as a UK resident I received the AstraZeneca vaccine as my original two doser, followed by the Comirnaty product as a booster.

Then, 6 months after that, this summer, I finally got sick. I felt like shit for 2 weeks but, unlike previous chest infections including a serious bout of influenza when I was 20, my chest was completely unaffected. My weed man got sick following our initial conversation concerning the virus, stating that he had never felt as bad or as frightened before in his life, convinced he was going to suffocate by the time he was admitted to hospital for pneumonia following 6 days of illness.

Of course, the most important thing is to make what one will of the anecdotes without being sidetracked by the wider context of pathology and science.
 
OpiateKiller said:

DIED SUDDENLY

diedsuddenly.info diedsuddenly.info

Watch this and then you will see what all us "conspiracy theorists" tried so damn hard to convince you not to get the shot.

This isn't a win. I'm not happy I'm right. I knew all along it was so obvious this was to kill us. It's just sadness because most of my loved ones will die. They wouldn't trust me. It's somber sadness that this kind of evil exists.

The documentary had me so anxious I called my parents and told them I loved them. Every doctor, nurse, front line worker... They killed them all. With no remorse.

We need to fight back. They knew. They knew this would happen.
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OpiateKiller said:

DIED SUDDENLY

diedsuddenly.info diedsuddenly.info

Watch this and then you will see what all us "conspiracy theorists" tried so damn hard to convince you not to get the shot.

This isn't a win. I'm not happy I'm right. I knew all along it was so obvious this was to kill us. It's just sadness because most of my loved ones will die. They wouldn't trust me. It's somber sadness that this kind of evil exists.

The documentary had me so anxious I called my parents and told them I loved them. Every doctor, nurse, front line worker... They killed them all. With no remorse.

We need to fight back. They knew. They knew this would happen.
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Although I hate being pressed to get vaccinated by anyone, and I especially resent being pressed to take a rushed vaccine for a virus with a relatively low risk to me, I disagree with your mass murder theory. And I wish you'd step back to look at the bigger picture for just a minute.
Let us assume for a minute that there was a "Plan" to enact forced population control by killing people en masse.

Why not just create a virus to do that? Why the extra step? By citing the vaccine as the problem, you suggest that the "plan" was to eliminate those most likely to get the vaccine and in most of the world, that was the RICH/MOST EDUCATED people. So that means a virus was created to kill SOME but the vaccine would be the real weapon??

(While it's true that in the developed world, the elderly and immunocompromised got the vaccine first, if mass murder was the plan, the virus would have killed them anyway! Again I ask, why the extra step??) Most of the world did not have high vaccine rates because most of the world is poor.
**IF the Vaccine is the weapon - the likely result is killing off those in the richest countries.**

Why rid the world of the wealthy? Why kill off the most educated? Why rid the world of the industrialized country's populations (the ones with the vaccine)?
IF the vaccine is the weapon then the likely result is that the impoverished uneducated unvaccinated masses in the 3rd world would survive and then what, rule?? That is the logical conclusion to a vaccine conspiracy. That's one underlying reason I reject it.

I could be convinced that the VIRUS was a weapon, but the extra step of creating a vaccine in response to a "spontaneously occurring" virus to kill billions, makes no sense to me.
 
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steewith2ees said:
Your not really a bird.brain are you?
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Sometimes, apparently. :)
I stopped reading your post at the sentence I quoted.
I assume you were one of them.
Very stoned. My bad. Carry on.
 
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bird.brain said:
Sometimes, apparently. :)
I stopped reading your post at that sentence.
Very stoned. My bad. Carry on.
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Its genuinely not your mistake. Using the logic of science deniers to show how ludicrous they are is less effective in an age where irony is dead and just gaslights in all directions. I am pranged having been smoking crack since 6am so my ability to communicate is even worse than my usual dribble.
 
steewith2ees said:
Its genuinely not your mistake. Using the logic of science deniers to show how ludicrous they are is less effective in an age where irony is dead and just gaslights in all directions. I am pranged having been smoking crack since 6am so my ability to communicate is even worse than my usual dribble.
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This^^^ is a refreshing and witty form of modesty. I looked up the word "pranged" and it's not in the Oxford dictionary. Or was it a typo?
I think it should be a word.
 
Mr. Karen said:
they always knew it would mutate

that's why their was never a vaccine for the common cold before all of this anyway - you can't stop the common cold with a vaccine so how are you going to stop covid, which is just another cold? yea it was more severe and deadly but so were the common colds at one time that we see today


the hope by the pharma companies were to continue to jab and jab and jab and then push it like the yearly flu vaccine, which also doesn't work

pre-pandemic, it was no coincidence that grocery stores had huge banners hanging above the outside of the stores that said GET YOUR FLU VACCINES HERE TODAY!


it's all a money grab and it's always been a money grab and it's all at the expense of the general public's health - which is just sick and twisted
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I agree with you that they knew it would mutate and you can't vaccinate against the cold, but I disagree with the rest (*sort of)... even knowing that it would mutate, I genuinely think the world at large felt it had to do something about delta because we didn't know how many millions it would kill.

It is unfortunate that they continue to push what are now clearly useless vaccines on children and shit. It obscures the good intentions behind developing the vaccines in the first place.

*It's probably all about money and politics now, but that doesn't mean it always was. Maybe I'm being naive.

Capitalism isn't evil. It's flawed. The vaccines aren't evil either. They are just imperfect vaccines that exist in a capitalist system which is being increasingly dominated by a growing worldwide cultural far-left dictatorship.
 
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