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So this past weekend me and a friend decided to get some molly and roll and just have a good time. Anyway, when trying to get some molly our dealer says that they don't have that much molly left but whatever they do have we are welcome to buy. They only had a gram, so we bought that, but my friend wanted more than just that. So the dealer tells us they have some "sas" or whatever. At first I was like "Sas? As in Sassafras? That's a fuckin' tree and wont get me high." Dealer guy said it is like a mild MDMA trip but with a slight LSD effect to it (lol complete bs). I had never even heard of this shit until then. Anyway way he buys a couple grams of that too. So finally we get back to his house where we each take a gram of this sas stuff which tastes like chewed up vicodin with an added dose of bitter. We wait around for a while to see if this stuff has any effect at all. Sure enough it does. It kinda feels like the onset of E/Molly but not nearly as strong. So after that we start dipping into the molly, and having a few beers. The rest of the night was pretty fun.

Ok, now that you have the back story to this, here's my problem. We did this on Friday night. Saturday I felt like shit as I usually do after I take E/Molly, but noting that I haven't felt before. But on Sunday I started getting this weird feeling in my toes (so a full day in between with nothing unusual), but only the big toe on each foot. It kinda feels like that pins and needles feeling when your foot falls asleep except it hurts a little bit, but I only feel it when I wiggle my toes. If I physically bend my toes with my hands, I don't feel anything so I don't think its a joint issue. Either way it is still happening. Sometimes it'll hurt really bad, sometimes not so much and just be really damn annoying.

If anyone can give me an idea about what this is I would greatly appreciate it. I'm kinda hoping it'll go away on its own over time like my "brain zaps" did (mentioned this in another thread, pretty sure it's the one listed right below this one) after a weekend of E. I feel like it was the "Sas" that makes my toes feel like this because Molly never has before.
 
According to Erowid.

Sas: for "sassafras", a plant related to MDMA / MDA. 'Sas' or 'Sass' are usually MDA or MDMA, but are more often represented as MDA or mis-represented as a natural ecstasy-like compound.

Maybe he was talking about MDA that he gave you, it being more psychadelic than MDMA.
 
I'm not too worried about what Sass is, I just wanna know if it's responsible for this weird shit going on with my toes, and if it'll go away on its own or at all. Also, I'd like to know what this weird shit actually is.
 
Not a contradiction. I'm not worried about what Sass. I wanted to know what this weird shit going on with my toes is. Not what sass is.
 
^lol, i like how twice, people have ignored your original inquiry.
Did you say you took a entire gram of sass and of molly?
I would just say thats a shitload of drugs and probably like brain zaps, it'll eventually go away.
Don't do drugs for a while, eat well, sleep well, etc etc
If it continues for like more then a few weeks, go to a doctor. simple as that.
 
Thank you, Tom. Indeed I did say an entire gram of sass and molly. I assumed it was something similar to the brain zaps, but since this toe shit only happens to me and not my friend who did it with me I was a bit curious to what else it might have been.

EDIT: It was 2 grams of sass and 1 gram of molly for the two of us. So we each had 1 gram of sass and roughly .5 grams of molly. I say roughly cuz we didnt measure it out when we took it, just kinda split it down the middle.
 
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Ummm you took TOO MUCH of both drugs. Like said above, take a nice break from drugs, eat healthy, get a good amount of sleep every night, and exercise. Vitamins and 5-HTP are also great if you have them available. If not, hit up the local pharmacy.

As for the toes, Ive never experienced that. Closest to it would be my fingertips losing feeling every now and then for 3 days after a night of heavy MDMA use. It will go away with time. If not, then see a doctor.
 
What caused this? You simply took way too much.

Did you just drop the entire gram of "sass" all at once? Your lucky not have ended up in the hospital or worse doing something like that. You lucked out this time.
 
Am I lucky I'm not in a hospital? I've been hearing different things about sass. The dealer told me it was like MDMA but less intense but with a bit of a hallucinogenic kick to it. I didn't hallucinate at all though. I searched the internet to find out what sass is and what it does and everything I found said it was "the poor mans MDMA" or "a shitty version of MDMA." I wish I had found this site before doing it.

I took the gram of sass over the course of a couple hours. The molly I took all at once.

Out of curiosity does anyone know how long "sass" stays in your system? I would assume it's similar to MDMA since I've been told the drug itself is chemically similar to MDMA.
 
MDA is way more fatal an MDMA. I would eat grams of MDMA no prob, Mda? No thanks... You only need about 300mgs of MDA to OD. which means you shouldn't have eaten more than a 50 mg pill. So obviously this sas is not truly MDA, or you would be dead

they're both out of your system in three days. BUT if your toxins are built up, longer. Mine was built up a week because I couldnt piss or shit and it showed up on the drug test at the ER I went to.. He didn't mention it but treated it as a drug binge.. Saline fluid and a painkiller

It's prolly just some RC that someone's trying to push cause they don't know wtf it is
 
you sound like an absolute idiot.

you took A GRAM of a drug you knew nothing about while taking a half gram of mdma AND alcohol?? are you sure you dont mean .1 grams instead of 1 gram? 500 mgs of MDMA and a gram of MDA would end up being over a hundred dollars for one night, doesnt really add up. and where im from sass is slang for MDA.
 
ich333 said:
you sound like an absolute idiot.

you took A GRAM of a drug you knew nothing about while taking a half gram of mdma AND alcohol?? are you sure you dont mean .1 grams instead of 1 gram? 500 mgs of MDMA and a gram of MDA would end up being over a hundred dollars for one night, doesnt really add up. and where im from sass is slang for MDA.
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Thanks prick, if I felt like having a jackass insult me I'd remind your father that his wife is a cheap whore. And I'm pretty positive it was 2 grams of sass as I dropped a pretty penny for it. Not entirely sure what my friend payed for the MDMA. Again, for the second time now, the gram of sass I had, I took over the course of the entire night. So from first dose to last, that was about 8 hours. Why did I do that? Because I'm not an absolute idiot and I wanted to know what the fuck sass was like before I decided to dome the whole thing. Oh did you also not see the part where I said I did some research on sass before I took it? No, I doubt you did, prick.

The sass wasn't in pill form. It was a powder. If you'd all just stop focusing on how much of what I took and actually gave me some sort of legitimate response to the question I asked, that'd be great.


If I was screwed by my dealer, oh well, life goes on. I will deal with that. All I wanted from you guys here was a possible explanation as to why my fucking toes hurt when I move them, not insults because you just don't believe I took how much I said I took which is completely irrelevant to my question about my toes any way. Also you guys are the only ones who keep saying sass is some amazingly powerful drug. Every other site I've checked said it was "shitty MDMA" or "less intense MDMA." For being so amazingly strong, I've had stronger trips on E.

Thank you, Molly897 for actually answering a question I had.
 
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No price discussion or mentioning.

The most likely answer to why your toes hurt is simply because you took too much drugs, especially a drug you dont know much about. Not a smart thing to do at all, but whats done is done.

This is what your dealer said he was selling you: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mda/mda.shtml

But as far as you and all of us know, it couldve been anything.
 
tweakyb said:
No price discussion or mentioning.

The most likely answer to why your toes hurt is simply because you took too much drugs, especially a drug you dont know much about. Not a smart thing to do at all, but whats done is done.

This is what your dealer said he was selling you: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mda/mda.shtml

But as far as you and all of us know, it couldve been anything.
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My bad about the prices and what not. Wont mention that again. I checked erowid out before I took it. But all I really got out of that was that it was like MDMA which I've done many times before but never got this toe pain, nor have I heard about anyone else having this toe pain. I was just curious. Thats probably the best answer I'm going to get on why my toes hurt, so now I'm kinda over it. If it persists I'll go see a doctor. Thanks to those who actually helped.
 
I don't know if you could classify the "sas stuff" as MDA. Maybe a step in the synthesis of MDA. What kind of structure was the "sas stuff"? organic material? crystalline solid?
 
No problem. Dont know if you checked it out already, but you should take a look at The Directory. Theres a lot of useful information about MDMA in there and it includes everything you ever wanted to know about MDMA.

Didnt say this earlier, but welcome to Bluelight!
 
Jellybelly92 said:
I don't know if you could classify the "sas stuff" as MDA. Maybe a step in the synthesis of MDA. What kind of structure was the "sas stuff"? organic material? crystalline solid?
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It was a powder, kinda looked like sugar except with a little beige tint to it.
 
molly897 said:
MDA is way more fatal an MDMA. I would eat grams of MDMA no prob, Mda? No thanks... You only need about 300mgs of MDA to OD. which means you shouldn't have eaten more than a 50 mg pill. So obviously this sas is not truly MDA, or you would be dead
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Where did you find this info? Because this is FAR from true.
300mgs to OD?! I've consumed about 300-350mgs of MDA on my first time trying it, and I was not close to ODing. It felt very similar to dosing the same to MDMA for me. Sure most say it's more neurotoxic, but the OD limit is WAY higher than 300mgs.
a 50mg pill would not be strong enough for a good roll for almost anyone.
 
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