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Was I Drugged???

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ambryanne

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Okay, this is very hard for me to explain, but I'm gonna give it my best shot. First of all, I've never done GHB so I don't really know what the effects on the body are. But here's the sitch: I was at a house party and I had just started drinking (80proof liq. and soda). I had maybe two 8oz.drinks and took a hit of some pretty good bud. I felt REALLY buzzed, but not obliterated. I should also explain that only 1 month ago, I was drinking every day, by myself (damn depression) but the thing is, my tolerance was built to where I could polish off half a bottle of rum and still know what the fuck I was doing and remember details. Okay, back to the party, this is where my memory of the night ends. I woke up in a bed with a boy I remember meeting, I even remember his name, but I DO NOT remember going to bed with him.I don't remember anything, complete black hole. Now, I am experienced in the "black-outs" of a night of hardcore drinking, but I had TWO drinks, and even on those nights where I'm absolutely tossed, I can still delve into the corners of my mind and recall some scenes. My roommate explained to me that she had said good-bye to me twice, and I was told by someone else that the boy and I didn't just "sleep" in the bed that night (ew). I've spent hours trying to recall something, anything, but the things people said I did and said are just a blank in my head. I found out later that G is not uncommon in that house, so now I'm just pissed!!! I'd never go accusing anyone, I'm responsible for my actions, but just to put my mind at ease, could I have been slipped G or any other rohypnol-like drug? Any comments are appreciated.
 
Of course you could have been slipped G. But how could anyone here know for sure. Is it possible to get a toxicology report that tested for G? Look into that. Look into getting tested for VD's also.
 
that doesn't really sound like GHB at all...mainly because to get amnesia you have to get a heavy dose of G, causing you to pass out. If you really were talking and doing stuff that you don't remember, it probably was not G. BUT it could have been something else, who knows?
If you find out you were drugged and subsequently fucked, grab a shotgun and kill the bastard.
or better yet, report him.
best wishes...
 
There certainly are reports of people having
GHB-induced amnesia for some period before they
passed out. If it was G, you would have passed
out (as mentioned above). The same basically
applies for roofies, chloral hydrate, etc.
Did your friend recall you seeming drowsy or unsteady before leaving the party?
As hard as it may seem to believe, it is also not
uncommon for you to initially block out what
small bits and pieces of memories you might
have (if it was indeed as traumatic as you fear).
I have heard very similar stories both
from a friend and from a patient; in both cases,
she subsequently remembered enough detail to
know what happened.
It is also possible, albeit more uncommon, that
someone slipped you an amnesic. Although no drugs
produce wakeful amnesia 100% of the time, there
are quite a few that do so fairly reliably.
(Scopolamine was used to induce amnesia during childbirth back in the days before medical ethics.) Did you have any other symptoms when you woke? Dilated pupils?
If you really think that you might have been drugged, it would be possible to test for all of
the above for *some* period of time, but not
more than 2-3 days in most cases. This is, to
say the least, extremely serious. You need
to decide ASAP whether you want to pursue your
medical/legal options.
 
Well tolerance does weird things. Heroin tolerance has been known to change greatly based on location (hence the cause of some ODs). Also even with tolerance who knows how a memory substance like weed will affect you.
Secondly are you sure you didn't do anything else. The first person *I* would suspect if something like this happened to me is myself taking something which caused some anterograde amnesia....or drinking more secretly.
 
Thank you all soooo much for helping me out! My friend did say I looked really out-of-it, but she just thought I was really drunk. I'm VERY angry at all of the people involved w/that night, but the fact remains I put myself in situations where I know I'm at risk, so its every man (or woman) for themselves. But I would like to shoot the bastard ;)
 
Fuckin oath u were drugged, by what? dunno probly roofies or G or sumthin like. Its not uncommon, i know chick's who've had the same happen to them.
Id fukin go rank!
 
Amnesiacs sure...but I thought they were pretty much all extreme like scopolamine or electroshock (sure you have benzo strentgh things but thats not the same).
I think if someone had sliped her scopalamine she would know. The aftereffects if nothing else.
 
Whether or not you were drugged without your knowledge, I would suggest the person who slept with you knew you were not in a position to consent to sex. Therefore, you may have a legal case against this piece of scum. Although this may depend on how much time has passed since the event and what witnesses you have. Even if you did drink too much, no-one has the right to take advantage of that. Do you know if he used a condom? If you are unsure, you will need to talk to your Dr about STD and pregnancy testing.
Please don't just accept what happened - take some action, either talk to a lawyer, the police or ring up the bastard and abuse the crap out of him.
[ 09 May 2002: Message edited by: babydoc_vic ]
 
Does sound like GHB to me...
I was fairly pissed last week and consumed GHB, and all I remember was feeling ultra pissed - falling all over the show, then my memory is blank. Apparently I was basically comatised - nobody could wake me up for over an hour.
Somebody commented on getting a drugs test, however, I think GHB can only be detected for a few hours after use... think its turned into oxygen and co2.
 
it's utter madness how many people report to mix alcohol and GHB!!!!!!!!
Be safe...avoid mixing GHB with alcohol. GHB can be dangerous when used improperly or when mixed with other depressants. Combining a normal GHB dose with alcohol can trigger the overdose reaction of temporarily unrouseable sleep. GHB has been associated with 60 deaths in the US, according to the DEA, though most have involved other drugs (most commonly, alcohol) or high doses.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ or ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
NEVER, NEVER USE GHB AND ALCOHOL (OR ANY OTHER FORM OF CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM DEPRESSANT) AT THE SAME TIME.
DO NOT EVEN USE THEM WITHIN FOUR HOURS OF EACH OTHER.
THIS IS A POTENTIALLY FATAL COMBINATION!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ do you want more info? ~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
Sex with an unconscious person is rape, doesn't matter if that unconsciousness is do to Voluntary or Involutary intoxication, it's still rape.
You should immediately call the police, and then a maybe a lawyer to go after this jerk civily. If he did it you, he might do it again, he might really hurt somebody.
Good luck, feel free to email me any questions.
 
Originally posted by babydoc_vic:
Whether or not you were drugged without your knowledge, I would suggest the person who slept with you knew you were not in a position to consent to sex. [ 09 May 2002: Message edited by: babydoc_vic ]
Oh come on! How would you know. We have ONE side of the story- and a pretty vague one at that. The guy could have been just as fucked up. I know that happened to me a few times back in the day. I woke up next to some chick I had no idea who she was! neither of us did. Punk rock thing to do...
Going off and crying "he took advantage of me" is just a fucking cop out.
If she's that worried- get a drug screen. Go from there. I'd suggest getting some facts before jumping to conclusions.
doc
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i dont think that either lasts in your system for that long, that's what i was informed, and it is expensive to get a screen.
i have personal experience with this, as i was given rohypnol a few months back and experienced amnesia for the entire night (and i drank very little as well)
and my friends said i acted completely normal
when you don't know until the next day what happened you probably were drugged if you weren't combinining all sorts of drugs.. however since my blacking out from rohypnol it is not uncommon for me to black out after having very little alcohol.. boo :(
Dr.groveller said
"Going off and crying "he took advantage of me" is just a fucking cop out.
If she's that worried- get a drug screen. Go from there. I'd suggest getting some facts before jumping to conclusions."
hello pot, meet kettle!
she said she realized she putherself in that situation but i believe that no matter what situation a person is they don't deserve to be drugged.
and a vague story is what happens when you get drugged ;)
 
ambryanne-
Ok, I am totally empathizing with you. I had a nearly identical experience in October, when I had 1 drink and about 20 minutes later, remember feeling EXTREMELY tired and falling asleep, only to wake up 3 hours later with a friend's roommate in the bed with me. I remember only flashes of the evening, but he DID have sex with me and I did NOT want to have sex with him and it took me a couple of days to really come out of the drugged state enough to figure out what had happened. Most likely, you WERE drugged. Maybe this does belong in Dark Side or Health Concerns, but it was posted here and should not be disregarded at ALL.
I was too scared and uncertain to report my rape to anyone except the campus police for statistical purposes. But my advice would be that if you feel that you can, take action and take the control away from this guy.
Please email me ([email protected]) if you want to talk. Like I said, I know exactly where you are coming from and how this feels. Hang in.
 
Originally posted by randycaver:
Dr.groveller said
"Going off and crying "he took advantage of me" is just a fucking cop out.
If she's that worried- get a drug screen. Go from there. I'd suggest getting some facts before jumping to conclusions."
hello pot, meet kettle!
she said she realized she putherself in that situation but i believe that no matter what situation a person is they don't deserve to be drugged.
and a vague story is what happens when you get drugged ;)
Pot/kettle... where did I contradict myself? IF she really thinks she may have been drugged- GET A SCREEN. I doubt she'd have to pay for it if she went to the ER and told the truth- police matter... evidence gathering... rape kit. Not sure who gets the bill for that but I have a feeling if you're poor, they'll have it done. AND NO ONE deserves to be drugged. Never said differently.
My "going off and crying" comment was pretty specific about a situation where two drunk (fucked up) people end up in a bed, fucking, waking and not remembering a thing. Several people in this discussion seem to have concluded the guy was lucid, sober, and taking advantage of her. Maybe, maybe not. WE don't know. She doesn't know.
1) get a drug screen- only way to find out about that (probably too late but THE best option in a situation like this). If anyone ever has a doubt like this- go straight to the hospital...
2) Ask as many people as possible who were there if they can recall what happened, about your state of mind, etc.
3) Depending on 1 and 2, talk to the guy, perhaps? See how he behaves, "Holy shit, what the hell did we do. I'm so sorry, I don't remember anything?" "Hey baby, you loved it, wanna go again <leering sleazy smile>"
4) Get a check up for STDs, HIV, etc. Was a condom used? Who knows- she'll need to get checked - obviously will have to wait certain amt of time before taking tests (false negatives too early)
Rapists are well known targets in prison- they deserve it. IF she was drugged, I hope the mother fucker gets killed- I mean that, dead, buried, suffered...
But, the outcome is not assured.
doc
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What Dr.groveller is pointing out is that someone has posted to the bulletin board "Was I drugged?" meaning she herself isn't sure. Secondly she was told by some friends that she and the boy didn't just sleep in the bed?
How the fuck would they know? Did they watch, if so wouldn't they have commented on this guy sleeping with the unconcious girl? Only other way they could have any idea is if she herself gave such an indication before joing him in the room, presumably if the guy just said "im going to put her to bed" or something else appropriate to someone passing out they wouldn't (accurately) know.
I mean looking at her post and they style it is written in and the existance of a roomate I am guessing college aged woman. This certainly wouldn't be the first time someone told a college girl "yah you and him got it on" just to fuck with them.
So in the abscence of any evidence, in fact evidence to the contrary by this quote "I'm responsible for my actions," that she was taken advantage of while unconcious we get to this quote
Sex with an unconscious person is rape, doesn't matter if that unconsciousness is do to Voluntary or Involutary intoxication, it's still rape. . What the fuck? Are you guys just trying to scare the fuck out of her with stupid date rape tales you heard from a friend so that she thinks shes been rapped when she hasn't and goes and sues some innocent guy?
So she is mixing weed and alcohol with no mention of previous use together. Which is more likely she responded weirdly to their mixture (maybe it was really good bud...you can get absolutely baked off one hit of some really potent stuff...and differnt types of weed will have differnt levels of memroy effect (probably varies by level of CBN)) or she (in lack of any other evidence that this happened) drugged unconcious by something in her drink and raped? Which is more likely the pot was laced (hell I bet some PCP added in the mix would fuck things up nicely) or she was date raped?
We know the person posting is willing to consume illegal substances (the pot), probably more as she is posting on bluelight. An individual with a known history of substance abuse, even alcohol, I am certainly going to rate as likely to try other drugs. Now her circumstances may be differnt, I don't know but YOU DON'T EITHER, so in abscene of any other knowledge don't you think it is more likely she took some GHB or something which, in combination with the other things, killed her memory? The only people who can really tell her are people who remember the night so unless you were there quit telling her it was rape and not just her going to sleep with some fucked up guy while she was fucked up.
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I'm sorry, and I know this topic is getting off track, but sex that you did NOT consent to or were not ABLE to consent to is rape. No one is trying to scare the shit out of anyone. Recreational drug use is cool, we all do it, but it is extremely uncool to use a drug to control someone else! Think about something like that before you post something that's going to make her feel more guilty then she already does.
 
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