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Wars, Invasions, & Imperialism Thread v. Ukraine & Russia

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I think Turkey is involved with the attack, too. I assume it's a strategic decision because Russia may be too busy to help defend Armenia right now

 

Looks like Putin is getting a lot of pressure to resign.... or we might just see a bunch more high level Russian politicians "tripping and falling out of windows".
 

Looks like Putin is getting a lot of pressure to resign.... or we might just see a bunch more high level Russian politicians "tripping and falling out of windows".
Kind of off topic but yesterday I found out there's a word for that

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I love the people who claim to care about "white supremacy".

Those people will call black or Indian politicians "white supremacists" while also supporting the war in Ukraine - which involves sending millions of dollars to ACTUAL NAZIS lol.
There was even a clip of some US Nazis being interviewed saying how they support Biden over Trump because Biden is sending rockets to the Azov battalion in Ukraine lol.

If you support the Ukraine war - you're an idiot. You literally cannot think for yourself.
 
i hope Putin ups his efforts and really fucks Ukraine military.
The whole think is a farce.
Most people that support ukrain don’t even know what the Donbas region is.
The Ukraine military is toast as long as they align with Russia's enemies.
They've known this all along.

400,000 Ukrainian men are dead. They're now getting some women to fight.
USA is directly responsible for all of these deaths (they sabotaged the peace talks).
 
The Ukraine military is toast as long as they align with Russia's enemies.
They've known this all along.

400,000 Ukrainian men are dead. They're now getting some women to fight.
USA is directly responsible for all of these deaths (they sabotaged the peace talks).
Putin should obliterate Ukraines military.
Should kill Zelenskyy as a warning to to future presidents.
Where are u getting that figure? 400,000 men died?
 
I love the people who claim to care about "white supremacy".

Those people will call black or Indian politicians "white supremacists" while also supporting the war in Ukraine - which involves sending millions of dollars to ACTUAL NAZIS lol.
There was even a clip of some US Nazis being interviewed saying how they support Biden over Trump because Biden is sending rockets to the Azov battalion in Ukraine lol.

If you support the Ukraine war - you're an idiot. You literally cannot think for yourself.
If you don't support the Ukraine war then you fall for conspiracy theories way too easy. I know it makes you feel special, but it doesn't help you get to the truth.
 
You forgot the part where Zelensky is using Nazi gangs to silence opposition and intimidate critics. ....coming soon to a country near you!
Nazi gangs.... you mean the Azov Bridgade? Thats an official arm of the Ukranian Armed Forces, which had a past involving some far right components but had to clean up its operations when again, it became an official part of the Ukrainian armed forces way back in 2014.
Wagner on the other hand, still had its neo nazi founder Dmitry Utkin as leader of the military part of its operations all the way up until he was shot out of the sky a few weeks ago.

Was he shot out of the sky for being a neo nazi? Was he shot out of the sky for having neo nazi tatoos all over his body? Was he shot out of the sky for naming Wagner after Hitler's favourite composer? No, he was shot out of the sky for not being loyal enough to Putin.

Stop pretending any of this has anything to do with nazis. Thats just a way for Putin to pretend this war is somehow linked to their great patriotic war. Thats all. Putin doesn't give a fuck. What supports does Russia have? Syria? With a far right government. Iran, with a far right government. Putin doesn't give a fuck where you are on the political spectrum, all he cares about is that you hate the west and that you are loyal to him.

And all he cares about in Ukraine at this point, is saving face, as the strategic objectives were lost long ago. But make no mistake, this was intended as war of conquest. 'Liberation' 'Nazis' all this language is absolutely absurd.
 
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Nazi gangs.... you mean the Azov Bridgade? Thats an official arm of the Ukranian Armed Forces, which had a past involving some far right components but had to clean up its operations when again, it became an official part of the Ukrainian armed forces way back in 2014.
Wagner on the other hand, still had its neo nazi founder Dmitry Utkin as leader the military part of its operations all the way up until he was shot out of the sky a few weeks ago.

Was he shot out of the sky for being a neo nazi? Was he shot out of the sky for having neo nazi tatoos all over his body? Was he shot out of the sky for naming Wagner after Hitler's favourite composer? No, he was shot out of the sky for not being loyal enough to Putin.

Stop pretending any of this has anything to do with nazis. Thats just a way for Putin to pretend this war is somehow linked to their great patriotic war. Thats all. Putin doesn't give a fuck. What supports does Russia have? Syria? With a far right government. Iran, with a far right government. Putin doesn't give a fuck where you are on the political spectrum, all he cares about is that you hate the west and that you are loyal to him.

And all he cares about in Ukraine at this point, is saving face, as the strategic objectives were lost long ago. But make no mistake, this was intended as war of conquest. 'Liberation' 'Nazis' all this language is absolutely absurd.

"Way back in 2014"

That was less than 10 years ago.

Do you think any institution is going to be able to completely eliminate all of its Nazi elements within that time period?

Just because they aren't vocal anymore doesn't mean they're gone.

The USA and the imperial West have a penchant for supporting ruthless people.
 
"Way back in 2014"

That was less than 10 years ago.

Do you think any institution is going to be able to completely eliminate all of its Nazi elements within that time period?

Just because they aren't vocal anymore doesn't mean they're gone.

The USA and the imperial West have a penchant for supporting ruthless people.
Man I was reading about how the ADL changed its view of that nazi battalion in Ukraine around 2018-2020. They helped with the coup, so they are sharing in the profiteering and pillaging of the region, more than likely.
 
"Way back in 2014"

That was less than 10 years ago.

Do you think any institution is going to be able to completely eliminate all of its Nazi elements within that time period?

Just because they aren't vocal anymore doesn't mean they're gone.

The USA and the imperial West have a penchant for supporting ruthless people.
There's probably some members from way back when that still have personal far right views. It is the kind of thing you keep to yourself, as the group does not stand for or represent those ideas, as again its an official bridgade in the armed forces.

To try and bridge the gap between that and this being a 'nazi gang' or a war against nazis is just... I mean I can't even find the words for how ridiculious that is. Then again I guess this is the dive, so what should I expect?
 
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