It's important to differentiate ethocin (4-HO-DET) from N,N-DET, as writing "DET" usually refers to N,N-DET. We first detected ethocin in smoke shop gummies back in Maine ~3 years ago, but it was the 5-MeO-DiPT that really scared me because that specific compound can be fatal in combination with SSRIs, serotonin releasers, etc.
Yes I was being lazy and typing rapidly. I don't know if it was this thread or another one, but we had a discussion over 4-HO-DET...
My first experience with it was actually not that bad, I somewhat enjoyed it. Although liberal amounts of cannabinoids and alcohol were also involved.
Whatever they are I tried high doses(not extremely high, but say two packages) soo 6-10 gummy range and yes muted sounds correct. I was thankful at the time because I had no access to any psychedelics for years but it was as if a trip that never blasted off visually for me..patterns similar to tryptamine for wood grain I suppose and some CEV. Best part was probably the body high but ended up disappointed because ya know, never blasted off..
thats wild
Assuming it's ethocin that's in those gummies, I've had a great time mixing it with other things, mushrooms and LSD should be fantastic counterparts. Even if the gummies contain any of the other listed compounds that were found in the paper we're all talking about here, it'll still be a great time I'm sure.
I suspect that somebody used a simple extraction method on mushrooms grown in a bulk capacity, and then put a small amount into the final product as a way of trying to avoid your whole "somebody driving on the freeway" situation. Many of these things that also claim to contain only reishi or lion's mane or whatever else will say some shit like "Extra trippy, do not drive, have a tripsitter!" on the front of the packaging. I've personally had many products that claim to only contain "nootropic" fungi test positive for indolic compounds in the past, and they were most certainly active psychedelics when bioassayed.
Amanitas honestly can be quite hallucinatory, but it's more along the lines of Ambien than it is psilocin. I've got a batch of (alleged) Amanita muscaria right now, and a few small pinches of that shit smoked through a bowl with some screens feels like a trippier version of when I was a teenager smoking 10mg Ambien tablets. It prefers to be held and heated with a light flame as opposed to a blowtorch, and if you hold the smoke and then exhale slowly your entire body involuntarily relaxes, tensions you didn't even realize you had will fade away blissfully. The euphoria is neat, but the visuals are uniquely intricate when compared to other GABAergics that have induced hallucinatory effects for me in the past (zolpidem aka Ambien and lorazepam aka Ativan). Given the exceptionally low dose of this mushroom material required for a full dose, I'm suspicious that it may be Amanita pantherina or Amanita regalis that got mislabeled, but regardless of what it is I've found it to be a fascinating substance to work with. Have you come upon any legitimate amanitas to sample yet?