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☠ WARNING ☠ Warning: Mislabeled Batch of 2C-B-Fly That Has Caused Deaths

I think anyone reading your report and realising it was written in the immediate aftermath of pure hell can easily read between the lines and see that it was a whole lot worse than just a shitty trip. It's pretty goshdarn amazing that you managed to write anything close to as coherent and informative as you did so soon. Yourself and others who have posted of their experience with this stuff - whilst still reeling from it - have almost certainly saved many lives and touched many, many others <3
 
Shambles said:
I think anyone reading your report and realising it was written in the immediate aftermath of pure hell can easily read between the lines and see that it was a whole lot worse than just a shitty trip. It's pretty goshdarn amazing that you managed to write anything close to as coherent and informative as you did so soon. Yourself and others who have posted of their experience with this stuff - whilst still reeling from it - have almost certainly saved many lives and touched many, many others <3
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This is how I am coping with it. Making others know that there is stuff out there that is not what it is.

I hate this prohibition on drugs, with a passion that has recently had fuel added to my fire.

I believed that no drug should be illegal. If some one wants a drug, it should be obtainable from reputable sources given in prescribed doses. Doctors could find any drug interaction and physical problems, etc.

Why the heck do we have to live like this? Obtaining things from sources that apparently do not test their stuff.

Brian would have not have died. I feel so angry, so mad, so upset.

My life was in danger because of this prohibition on drugs. At the time of the incident, I felt so close to death. All I wanted was fun with people I love. Had this been obtained through legal means, no one would have gotten hurt.

Sorry for my rant, I am drunk right now.

--LoveBlue
 
Thanks for the report, I'm very sorry for your loss. It really could have been anyone, and I hope that you don't blame yourself. Please do not hesitate to talk with a counselor or other professional, this is obviously a low point and that is what they are there for. I know I didn't feel the need to talk with one when I had problems, but after I did I was very thankful. You can pm me if you want as well.
 
tribalDJ said:
Thanks for the report, I'm very sorry for your loss. It really could have been anyone, and I hope that you don't blame yourself. Please do not hesitate to talk with a counselor or other professional, this is obviously a low point and that is what they are there for. I know I didn't feel the need to talk with one when I had problems, but after I did I was very thankful. You can pm me if you want as well.
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To be honest with you, my boyfriend is not handling this well. He seemed okay for a while after he found out that it was not his fault, tainted stuff.

Now he wonders if Brian suffered as he died. He punched the wall, litterally. His hand is bleeding. He is suffering greatly.

I don't know what to say or what to do. His old brothers are with him and his father.

i love him deeply. I wish there were some kind of switch I could turn on and make his pain go away.

The only thing that gets me through this situation is knowing that Brian may have helped save lives.

sometimes I wish I had died instead of Brian, but he would probably still be in a bad place.

All we wanted to do was have a quiet fun night, me, John, and Brian. I F%^$$$$^# hate this mother #@@% prohibition!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i really want to swear right now, so I took my frustration out on the shift key plus numbers.

--LoveBlue
 
Am certainly no expert, but it sounds like the initial shock is starting wear off a bit and the emotions are doing their emotional thang in a big way. I can only imagine how painful that must be for all concerned but I do know that healing after a tragedy like this really, really hurts. Especially when it's so raw. Venting is good - vent at will <3

PS: Fuck prohibition indeed. Losing a thousand lives for every one you may "save" from surprisingly few serious consequences usually is so obviously not worth it. It really shouldn't be this way.
 
When you are feeling up to it, here is a bit of reading you can do to better understand what you are going through. There is a lot of good info on that site from what I saw.

http://helpguide.org/mental/grief_loss.htm

703-993-2380 is the number of my university's counseling center if you just feel like talking to someone, they have no problems talking to non-students and can point you in the right direction.

I believe that there will be some good that comes of this, many people were far too unsafe with using these research chems. Hopefully this will prevent a lot of future problems, and cause people to be more cautious. I wish you and your bf the best of luck. FYI, men are a lot worse at coping with depression and stress. There are a lot of people who would like to help you guys, don't be afraid to ask :)
 
I read about this one on DF. Nasty stuff.

Joanmiro, (and any others)
I hope you are doing ok now.
 
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This might be pretty obvious but to the people still thinking of trying low (.5mg) doses, please don't... at least wait until some lab results come in. It may be mislabeled but it could be something unknown. Nothing has been confirmed yet.
 
hello bluelove,

joan miro and i send our love your way and to eveyone affected by this incident. This is a hard time, and we are all here for you.
Please know that your bravery and reports have helped save lives, and for that you are a hero in our eyes. our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family at this time.

<3

Joan Miro is now awake after sleeping all night. says his brain feels fried but he is ok. we think the dose he ingested was very small.
lets figure out whats in there and keep warning everyone.
 
Erowid TR said:
P.S. John spoke with their mother this morning and she said that the toxicologist said that it was a tainted batch.
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I wish we had more details on tainted with what. But its a start i guess :\
 
I just sent the erowid link to some of my RC taking friends, and sms'ed one of them personally to make sure he reads it. This is terrible. To LoveBlue and everyone else suffering from this incident, my thoughts and prayers are with you.

The warning needs to be circulated even further. Is it possible to make a sticky to the Psychedelic Drugs section?
 
Thanks Loveblue for your info. Also, super sorry about everything, and just remember that you did nothing wrong. Your friend neither. Freak accidents happen. Hang in there.
 
Hi everyone

Working on feeling better here.

I have submitted my experience to Erowid. It should be up in a few hours.

Thanks for everything, guys

<3

Joan Miro
 
Why the talk of prohibition/blaming it for the deaths? The drug in question is not illegal. The reason this happened is because people buy drugs clearly labeled "not for human consumption' from shady 'vendors' who really are young 20 year old drug dealers with a connection to a lab, selling mislabeled chemicals. Clearly any blame does not lie with laws, as there is no law prohibiting the substances in question
 
It's the grey market. It's not approved by the FDA or other governments version of the FDA for human consumption and there's good possibility that if sold "for human consumption" that it would fall under the analogue law and be illegal.

One thing's for sure; if it was sold openly "for human consumption", it wouldn't take too long before it became illegal. :\
 
Yeah Peppersocks nailed it. Thats the point, we have to be kinda shady with our dealings...

Last time people posted RC sites all over forums and sold then legal RC's at super low doses remember what happened? Operation Web Tryp so thats why things are how they are.
 
LoveBlue said:
To be honest with you, my boyfriend is not handling this well. He seemed okay for a while after he found out that it was not his fault, tainted stuff.

Now he wonders if Brian suffered as he died. He punched the wall, litterally. His hand is bleeding. He is suffering greatly.

I don't know what to say or what to do. His old brothers are with him and his father.

i love him deeply. I wish there were some kind of switch I could turn on and make his pain go away.

The only thing that gets me through this situation is knowing that Brian may have helped save lives.

sometimes I wish I had died instead of Brian, but he would probably still be in a bad place.

All we wanted to do was have a quiet fun night, me, John, and Brian. I F%^$$$$^# hate this mother #@@% prohibition!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i really want to swear right now, so I took my frustration out on the shift key plus numbers.

--LoveBlue
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LoveBlue, thank you for being the amazing person you are. I cannot tell you how important the work you are doing here is. If it is any consolation, I want to commend your ability to spread the word about the tainted product that you ingested. I have found it difficult (in a good way) to go about my daily internet dealings without coming across information about this unfortunate incident. Because we live in a time where we must use questionable means to gain access to questionable drugs, we sometimes find ourselves dealing with unfortunate situations like these. Perhaps this incident will open the eyes of some unsuspecting politician or someone who has the power to make change. No death is ever in vein.

All I can say is this: be there for Brian, and I'm sure he will be there for you. Share and express you feelings. Appreciate them for what they are, but don't let them take a hold of your actions. Always ask yourself what John would want most. What you two have experienced is not only a lesson to you, but also to everyone in the world. We can only pray that people will listen. Peace and love.
 
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