wanting to quit oxys... questions...

BandO just the way you say "Holy shit! Its an open forum. Chill."

Cant you see that man? wth is an open forum anyway?

Why do you keep saying you can't be addicted to something if your not physically addicted to it? What about porn? Need a physical dependence to be addicted to porn?

Maybe its just cuz ur young. I dunno. Im guessing 16-18
 
BandO is correct. Knock off the bullshit and stop. You are at the point where you A: Stop or B: Keep going until you're in full-blown addiction blowing 160mg a day just to get out of bed.

Every single opiate addict on these boards started at once a week, or 3 times a week. The thing is, no one stays there. No one wants to be an addict, but before you realize you are one, it's too late. It will eventually catch up with you. Endure the week of stomach cramps & achy legs and stop. You have benzos at your disposal which will help you sleep and take the edge off. Buy some lopermide and ride it out while it is "easy". If you don't, you'll be much worse off.

I wish I had someone telling me that 3x a week was too much and that you can't have control forever. But here I am giving you the advice every should get. Quit while you're ahead and before you can't quit.
 
BandO just the way you say "Holy shit! Its an open forum. Chill."

Cant you see that man? wth is an open forum anyway?

Why do you keep saying you can't be addicted to something if your not physically addicted to it? What about porn? Need a physical dependence to be addicted to porn?

Maybe its just cuz ur young. I dunno. Im guessing 16-18
old enough to know drugs are never a day or 3 out of the week type thing And a horrible shitty disgusting thing when you have to take the shit everyday to feel OK and not like you entered the gates of hell.
 
The mental struggle to not do more than a joke vic 3 times a week is exactly the same as the mental struggle to not shoot the whole brick in two glorious, sleepless days.

What B and O and everyone else agrees on, I think, is that you need get out--totally out--before you have to deal with the runs and the snots and the aches and the sleeplessness and the alienated friends and family and the fucked credit and the landlord and the joblessness and the guilt and all the rest of it.
 
I think what everyone on both sides of the issue is forgetting is that OP did not ask for a lesson in moral, he wanted information about what addiction feels like and how to know if he was in danger and what to do. OP, in my experience with opiates (which I am not happy to say is quite extensive) I began using OC in doses of about 20mg once a week max. That was fun and not dangerous, but in retrospect, I should've recognized it was time to stop when I was replacing activities I used to love to do to use OC and other drugs. Dose does not matter nearly as much as what you are sacrificing to feel that rush. If you find yourself lying to yourself or other people, avoiding responsibilities you normally wouldn't to use, or certainly if you ever start to feel the physical effects of addiction (irrationally strong cravings, withdrawals or just getting sick from using bigger and bigger doses) then I know for me that should have been the time I should have realized I had a problem. Good luck, be honest with yourself.
 
BandO, I think you are being very disrespectful. This post isn't in OD, it's in TDS, this guy just wants our support. I feel like I'm addicted to pot and have smoked daily for almost 7 years and people shit on me and tell me its "not a real addiction" and that isn't true. Plus, it sounds like the OP isn't familiar with some of the more "hardcore" opiates just yet from the sounds of it, so is just using what he can get his hands on.

OP, an addiction is an addiction...as everyone else said, you won't have to really worry about the physical part of this too much, but it has become a routine in your daily life for a period of time so mentally it will be difficult. DEFINITELY do some research here and erowid OP, you really SHOULD know what chemicals you are putting into your body --- BL is all about harm reduction.

I like what you said about pot not being a real addiction isn't true. For many people it's addictive and in rare cases for chronic smokers it could be very addicting!
 
Che,

i would say 2-3 times a week is wayyy more than you should. BananaandOranges might be a little brash...but believe me he's looking out for you. People just have different ways of delivering there point...sounds to be BandO has been through it and just can't figure out why would you even start to go down that road.

My twice a week habit turned into a year long "vacation" of oxys, hydros, t3 and tramadol. Thankfully, I rotated my opiates and never took the same drug for more than a month. The only reason i did that though, was because I took what was available...who knows how I would have went down if hydros and oxys were in constant supply?

My wd's, which I am at the tail end of right now were NOT bad at all...neither should yours, because you don't have a large habit.

Stop NOW! There is something in your life...that is driving you to do this. Relationship problems? Hiding something from your family?

Using a pill to derive pleasure is one hell of a game bro.

I know a FEW people who take hydros/oxys a few times a month for pleasure...and they all have 1 thing in common:

They're happy, pursuing their passions and are pre-occupied with life. They're the annoying ones who want you to come out with them each night, start a business with them, etc.

People like me though...forget it...I have alot to work out and am not able to be at that point...I don't know you but I would be my next paycheck you need to get some issues worked out.

Do it now...before its too late. 3x a week...no way...that's wayyy to much.

I get the feeling you want people to "sign off" on your desire...as someone who has been through it, I can't do you such harm.

Good luck...take care of yourself bro.
 
Quit while your ahead, u have to sooner or later and if u do now ur hardly gonna have any wds at all and ur not gonna have a life long problem. You let it progress further and further and your gonna have wds that are harder than anything you've ever experianced and for a very very long time your always gonna have the problem of having been an addict and still gonna think about drugs and wanna do them for a long ass time. Quit while its still an easy thing to do because it wont be when u let it get out of control
 
physical addiction isnt always the problem its the psycholoical one the drugs saying yeah go on pop one nah pop tw/three/four thats its dosent it feel great your body is a vessel just to facilate the feel in your head its in ya head

Exactly. People are saying "just quit" as if it would be extremely easy just because he isn't physically addicted. In my experience, the psychological aspect is the major why reason opiates are so hard to quit, not the physical aspect. Getting physically addicted and building a tolerance sure as hell makes it more complicated and painful to quit, but controlling the psychological addiction is really the hard part of quitting.

Saying "just quit" is fine from a rational point of view, but its just not that easy. From a completely rational point of view, even someone with a heavy addiction could "just quit"...sure, withdrawal will be painful but its only a few days. Quit a drug and you will cease being dependent on it. Unfortunately, humans are not perfectly logical and rational machines.

I've been physically hooked on opiates in the past. Right now I am just chipping and have a low tolerance, and while I really want to get sober again, I have been unsuccessful at going more than about 5-6 days.
 
I have been taking about 40 mg's 3 times a day for about a week...

I was curious what you all thought about the idea of checking myself into a methadone clinic?

I really want to quit this stuff, it's just the mental urge is killing me...

I really want to wean off of it, but the guy who was getting his script says the doctor didn't give him any this time, so I'm sorta panicking, not knowing what to do...

:-(
 
You definitely don't need the methadone, you'd only be taking something that's even harder to get off. If your not able to taper your oxy, as most of us are not then you can either go cold turkey with the valuims and loperamide, or try and get a about a dozen subs and do a ten day taper of of them. I have to agree with draigan, the mental struggle can be really tough early on even though the habit is small. There really isn't an options to only use 3x a week, it'll only get out of control in a matter of time. You really have to want to be done with the shit in order to be successful. It's not a matter of just man up and quit, that's fucking stupi and reading shit like that pisses me off. What will improve you chances would be to learn how others have gotten of, get some support and learn as much as you can. Figure out why you started self medicating, what you need/want to fix about yourself and in your life. Be smart using the valuims to take the edge off, you don't want a benzo dependency. There are lots of supplements that can help you deal with your wds and the need to take a pill. If you do get some subs let me know and I'll share the quick taper that has worked for me.
 
Hey OP if you do try to quit (I hope you do) you mentioned taking xanax/valium which will help getting off the oxys but dont take too much of the benzos because I think those are way more addictive than oxys. Best of luck though as far as bad times go it doesnt really sound like youre in for one.
 
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