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want to try something stronger than marijuana, should I or not?

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ROLL FACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but yeah dont do meth, move onto something some what safe.... low dose opiates, mushrooms, acid, maybe a benzo, ecstasy if you can be safe and careful with it. read up alot on BL on whatever you chose so your as safe as possible.
 
What is upseting with your life that you FEEL the need to try something besides weed? There is a reason people say weed is the gateway drug...I wouldnt try anything else if you have a sense that you have a addictive personality.
 
There's a big difference between having an addictive personality and wanting to experience what else is out there. Fortunately there is a hell of a lot in between marijuana and methamphetaines. The Gateway drug theory is bullshit(IMHO, if you disagree, feel free to prove me wrong). People get in to pot smoking first because it's the easiest drug to acquire. It's easier for a high school student to buy an ounce than it is for him to get alcohol. People who use weed as a stepping stone do so for convenience, they would have tried another drug first if it was the easiest to purchase.
 
you're curious, it's natural. some people will smoke weed and never go beyond that, others will feel compelled to try other things, it's not bad but you should make sure you do it in an intelligent and safe way.

Don't try something new just because you're depressed, I made this mistake, this leads to addiction quicker than anything.

If you're just bored, I'd suggest trying an ADD med, or maybe a Vicodin, in a low dose with a friend. At least you'll know what you're getting and you'll get a feel for the other types of drugs that are out there.

LSD and Mushrooms are what I tried after weed, I'd recommend them except for some people they could be very bad news, don't want to end up in a psych hospital! Any drug has it's risk, just be smart. Don't do meth, if you want that kind of high try Adderall or something like it.

Better yet, stop smoking pot for a couple weeks and then re think your plan. There is nothing wrong with experimenting but it should be done in a safe way...(not a rite aid, or vons....) bad joke....
 
TulsaToker said:
Fuck hydrocodone whoever said that... That shits for pussys snort a oxy 15 or two. Or take a bar (2mg xanax)
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Possibly one of the dumbest things I've heard on this forum. That is saying A LOT.

Explain, right now, in detail, how one drug is for "pussies" and the other isn't. Go.

Also, thanks so much for that little footnote. I had no idea what a bar was. 8)
People like you the exact reason why Bluelight isn't as good as it potentially could be. Dick sizers who thinks its cool to use only the strongest chemicals in their class.
TheLostBoys said:
I agree with everything you've stated except for the unbored part of weed. Imo, if you smoke pot every day, it makes you unmotivated & a boring person, at least ime. Weed is a great drug to smoke once in a while, I believe you get alot out of the experience when doing it once in a while.
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Well, everyday smoking would probably make it very boring. At least for me it definitely seems. Then again, who's fault is that? It's not the like the OP is being forced to smoke everyday. Everyday use is certainly not a good idea health-wise anyway. I also agree that it can be excellent in moderation. The powerful high you get from a long tolerance break is very hallucinogenic in my experiences. :D
 
Cigarettes were my gateway drug..

And yea the high of Hydro is probably better than Oxy if you're tolerance still allows it.
 
Dude what I would suggest is stop buying mids and always buy dank ass bud. And don't try to play it off that you do. Then marijuana will be still better than ever and maybe try to get your tolerance down

Drugs besides marijuana you should try: psychedelics but read up on them and make sure you're prepared. I suggest trying mushrooms first and then LSD. Other ones such as ketamine I wouldn't suggest you do since you seem like you would be going in over your head.

You could also try ecstasy but most pills are dirty nowadays so if you can get pure mdma then do it. Ask around for some molly but read up on it don't dive head in first if you don't know what is ahead.

Also with hydrocodone don't mess with it. I do it because I'm being a fiend for something to help my withdrawls. Yes, I am not as bad as before but I still find myself trying to find my mothers prescriptions at times. Also I do xanax and valium lortab vicodin ect. And yeah their fun until you become addicted which is quick. I do them occasionally now but believe me addiction is lying right around the corner.

Also meth it is fun at first but then it fucks you over. I never did it but my ex and best friend do and trust me they're not the same people they use to be.

Trust me I'm not an adult saying don't experiment because I'm young like you and trying to be as real as possible.
 
The best advice I can give you is if you're going to try new drugs, try ones that are cheap and easy to get.

NO OPIATES!

Yes, maybe you'd like opiates, but do you REALLY want to get hooked on a drug that is expensive and sometimes hard to get? No no no. Just don't even go there. Try everything else and if you discover another one you like, hooray, you dodged a serious bullet.

Shrooms, LSD, acid, DXM are all excellent choices and won't get you into too much trouble. Maybe K if you like downers and that "disconnected from the world" feeling, but even that stuff can be really hard to get your hands on (besides, I think DXM is a very suitable K substitute).

HEED MY WORDS.

Find something other than opiates that makes you happy. Opiates are only good for people who have (or convinced a doctor they have) chronic pain that needs a long term, monthly prescription. That's the ONLY way opiates can work and not get you into a serious hole.

This same advice is good for ANYONE looking to step up.
 
No. E is best saved for social occasions.

E at home alone is like watching someone ride solo on a bicycle built for two - you feel dumb and look really, really sad doing it.
 
John_Burrows said:
No. E is best saved for social occasions.

E at home alone is like watching someone ride solo on a bicycle built for two - you feel dumb and look really, really sad doing it.
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The same could be said about any drug. It depends on the individual. I certainly don't see anything wrong with it. In fact, I prefer MOST highs when they're experienced alone. Especially alcohol for some reason.
 
No it can't be said about any drug (well you can say it but you'd be wrong).

There's no way you can compare the social aspects of E and, say, DXM. If you took a survey right now you'd find far and wide that most E users prefer to take it in a social setting (and like me the are probably passionate about that point) while DXM users probably lean towards home alone or just don't care.

I also can't imagine most coke heads enjoy sniffing a few lines and having a nice, quiet evening at home.

Because of their effects, some drugs simply ARE better suited to social occasions. You might find many of them skew towards "either way, don't care) but I'm sure some would poll strongly in one setting or the other.

And I'm glad, diversity in "mood altering" substances is a good thing!
 
John_Burrows said:
No it can't be said about any drug (well you can say it but you'd be wrong).

There's no way you can compare the social aspects of E and, say, DXM. If you took a survey right now you'd find far and wide that most E users prefer to take it in a social setting (and like me the are probably passionate about that point) while DXM users probably lean towards home alone or just don't care.

I also can't imagine most coke heads enjoy sniffing a few lines and having a nice, quiet evening at home.

Because of their effects, some drugs simply ARE better suited to social occasions. You might find many of them skew towards "either way, don't care) but I'm sure some would poll strongly in one setting or the other.

And I'm glad, diversity in "mood altering" substances is a good thing!
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I never do coke in public anymore. If i do it anymore it has to be at home or at a friends with a few people.
 
If you have to try something, try acid, Ecstasy or something like that. Don't go for any form of amphetamine or opiate as it takes over eventually. At least with acid or E, it is more of a sometimes drug not an every day drug. Of course people do binge on E or acid but your tolerance goes up extremely quickly, (like within a day or two) so it enforces a break. The tolerance also goes back down very quickly (like within a week).

So this way, it stays a weekend drug, whereas with opiates or meth there are no safeguards.

You want drugs to stay fun, you want your brain to stay capable of having fun. (Meth and opiates fuck that up.)
 
if you are leaning toward psychedelics, i'd suggest trying a lower to moderate dose of shrooms before jumping to LSD so you get a "feel" for psychedelic mindstates. there is also DXM(a dissociative different than other psychedelics like LSD, shrooms, etc.) found in OTC cough syrups, if you decide to try DXM make sure it is the only ingredient.

if you are leaning toward opiates, i'd start with codeine or hydrocodone(Vicodin). be careful with opiates, one day you're innocently popping Percocets without a care and before you know it you're smoking heroin in public bathrooms.

as for benzos, you probably won't feel a real strong euphoria but more of an alcohol like "fucked up" feeling. if you decide to try benzos start with lower doses and space out use as addiction/withdrawl is complete hell.

lastly you mentioned wanting to try methamphetamine, i would suggest trying Adderall or Dexedrine if you want to try a stimulant before going straight to meth.

whatever you decide to do be safe.
 
Some of the advice in here is just disgusting from a harm reduction POV. I don't want to further quote the post but really now, don't give advice in order to make yourself seem "cool."

Anyway, OP, I also think you should just take a break from pot...or, get really awesome dank buds. Even the most experienced stoner will sometimes encounter stuff that makes them take a step back and say "wow." I'm not sure of your age...but if you're post-high school, maybe a safe night with some close friends and some mushrooms? They are the step most people seem to take after marijuana if they do choose to go farther, and while I actually don't care for them or other psychedelics, it's a YMMV type of situation. I wouldn't suggest any pharms as the next step, as these are often the types of highs that people chase...I don't really know anyone who gets addicted to 'shrooms, so I think in the most harm reducing advice --- better buds or some shrooms in a comfortable, safe setting with some friends.

Meth, or any stim, does not seem like such a great next step --- while I don't have experience with meth, I do with d-amp/adderall/cocaine/more caffeine than one should normally consume...and these all seem to come with the fiendish desire to redose until you run out and then spend your energy trying to find more...not the best thing to get yourself into, IMO.
 
id say to stay away from amphetamines as they are so easy to go to far on cant think what next level from weed is but in my experience ectasy (hope i spelled it right) is a very fun drug but have to take it easy.
another great high you can get is from exercise and pushing your body to its limits or from an adrenaline rush in sports.
whichever you do hope you enjoy it
 
No, you didn't spell it right. And if you bothered to write "I hope I spelled that right," you could take an additional 12 seconds to click over to google and just type the word in; less than a second later, if you spelled it wrong it will let you know and show you the correct spelling.

People like to say "oh it's just a forum post, who cares" but being in the habit of bettering yourself with even the simple task of learning how to spell something should be a 24/7 job.

Otherwise, you're just an ignorant junkie!
 
Since this thread is essentially a cesspool for anti-harm reduction, I'm going to close this.
 
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