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want to try acid

all those who took acid for the wrong reasons such as having a good time, report to wicked for punishment.
seriously, i do like hearing what others have to say. especially stuff like what to expect from drug x, how to speed up recover from doing drug y, tricks for making peoples' high more enjoyable, etc. i am new to this culture, and i know there's a lot to learn. i just don't like being preached to when it comes to what my reasons SHOULD be for doing (or not doing) something.
 
When did I say I tried it for spiritual enlightenment? I tried it for visuals...it sucked. I later tried it to expand my mind, tried all meditation shit, and lo and behold, had a better trip with more visuals to boot. Basically the same potency acid and the same number of hits.
I was (am?) bothered because YOU ASKED for OUR advice, heard it, and then dismissed it. We try to help someone inexperienced and they think that they know more than us...oh, well.
 
where the fuck did i dismiss advice? i read what peoople had to say. just because a more experienced user says my reasons for doing something should be ... but my reasons differ, i'm not going say gee, i don't want to do this for the right reasons, therefor i wont do it. in my mind, dismissing the advice would have been saying "you guys don't know what the fuck you're talking about." did i say i wouldn't consider what anyone said? no.
 
all i was trying to say is this. i think telling someone what their reasons for doing something should be is wrong. i would never tell anyone what their reasons should be for doing something. i would state what my reasons for doing what i do are and leave it at that.
 
Kidagain.... Everyone is going to give you advice and their thoughts but ultimately its up to you. Acid can leave you in that state for a long time, and unfortunately it does not always go well. My friend thought she could handle acid and when she did, saw pigs heads and dead bodies etc.etc.
I'm not saying this will happen to you, but it is VERY different from the "visuals" you get on MDMA.
But on the up side, I've had some of the best nights of my life on Acid... So find it, sit with some friends and drop it. I would recommend not going to a club cause if it's your first time, can be a bit overwhelming....
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Have you ever read Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas? Not seen the movie, but read the book? Perhaps I only knew it because I first read it after having taken acid, several times, but that book reeks of Uncle sidney's raunchy pits. That's the (self-inflicted) bad trip from hell.
I believe that the reason people give you "right" and "wrong" reasons to try it are that if you try it for the "wrong" reasons acid has a greater potential to bend you over the bed and fuck you anally until you bleed and whimper for god and mommy to come save you.
MDMA is a good high. It's even a really good high. Acid is tantamount to a religious experience, if it all works right, or if it all works wrong. MDMA is physically a lot more risky than LSD, but psychologically, Acid is the one that can be Russian roulette.
I suggest you don't take it. I suggest you read every word you can find about it. I suggest you never take a single drug. If you can get where they take you without drugs, it's better.
I suggest you pander with shamanism and eastern religious, I suggest you work as hard as you can to see everything as beautiful and significant without drugs. Then, when you don't need them to see pretty lights or expand your consciousness, or feel at one with a crowd, then use drugs or don't use them as you see fit.
There is a myth that drugs expand consciousness or spew enlightenment. YOU expand your own consciousness. The drugs just help, or sometimes get in the way.
 
Don't fuck around with LSD until you know exactly what you are getting yourself into. Do some research.
Follow the basic rules when you first start out: go into in with a good mindset and be in a good setting, start off with a low dose because once ingested there is no turning back and if it's not enough you can always eat more, and do it with someone who has experience with LSD.
You said you have only done MDMA four times; which is not alot of experience being in altered mind-states. Furthermore, LSD and MDMA can hardly be compared to each other.
LSD is a very powerful chemical and should be treated as such. It has changed many peoples' lives. It can be a truly enlightening experience but it can also be complete hell if you are not prepared for it.
Just be prepared to do some serious inner-exploration.
 
Huh? Am I the only person who takes LSD for the pretty colors and visuals? I don't get this "self exploration" crap - personally I found MDMA to be a FAR more powerfull drug in terms of the effects it has on your being.. LSD was a bit confusing at first, but when each was done (MDMA and LSD) .. I walked away having "gained" FAR more from the former..
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Oh jesusfuckingchrist, you people act like a hit of acid is equivalent to datura or something.
Kidagain- unless you have some underlying mental illness just looking for a window of opportunity to surface, you'll be fine. Enjoy the pretty colors, be prepared for a mindfuck, have a sitter and trip your balls off. It's not the olympics or a Jedi fighting match that your getting yourself into, it's a fucking hit of acid.
 
I'm afraid I take drugs like LSD, MDMA etc. to get high and feel good, not to channel god or buddha or enlighten my conscience or some shit.
I'm suprised more people don't admit to this... MANY of the people who say they do it for self exploration are just kidding themselves.
 
O.K. I admit some of us may have come on a little strong about LSD; but I think we were just trying to say that there is a large range to the LSD experience and that the user should be aware of that. I've seen too many little kids out of their heads crying in the corner yelling for it to stop.
Yeah, I know quite a few people who take L just to get spun, however you can not deny that there is a serious side to LSD as well. It all depends on where you want to go with it. Many people do have significant spiritual and mind-expanding experiences while getting high. At the very least it expands on our everyday reality. LSD did not become popular because of its buzz. Whether you agree with it or not, there are many people past and present who will tell you that LSD and other psych's played a major part in their definition of their self, their world, and their view of the cosmos.
 
Well i got pretty sick of readin everyone's replys, so i skipped to the end and replied.....All i wanted to add, is if all your lookin for is visuals, that's fine, and if you have a bad trip, just know your visuals will be extrodinary, but they wont be in your favour, but the next mornin youll realize the visuals were pretty pimp, and after one bad trip youll realize how to handle it better...
Good luck to you..
And just remember, just let it flow, try not to manifest on bad thoughts, like happy gilmore says, goto your own happy place, because your mind can basically do whatever you tell it to on acid...
 
Can I make a tiny suggestion? If you have not done so, you might like to experiment with various doses of Ketamine. When it comes to visuals, it has been said that "Ketamine makes LSD looks like a childs toy."
And the likelihood of a bad trip, from my understanding, is lower with Ketamine.
 
thanks for all the advice. i know people have very bad trips sometimes. i am happier now than i have ever been in the past. that's part of the reason why i don't think i'll have a bad trip. when i took e last time, i took 3 pill total(not at once though) and i thought i heard voices while driving as if there were people in the back seat. it was strange, but i wasn't scared. i thought it was cool. when i read and heard about how things appear to melt, i said to myself, i want to experience that! it seems like it would be totally cool.
some might say that's not a good reason, but what can i say, i like getting fucked up. i am ready to deal with the consequences (if there are any).
i spent my whole life being ultraconservative, holding myself back from new experiences, judging people, etc. xtc was cool and it kind of opened my eyes a little. i've met more cool people in the last year than i have my whole life.
i guess after reading so many posts about how people love acid, maybe i minimized the risk in my own mind but it's a risk i'm willing to take. i have good friends who look out for me when i don't do it myself.
not even sure i will do it yet.
anyways, thanks for all the kind words and support people.
 
Petersko, while K is by far my favorite drug, the possibility of a bad k hole are very real and they make a bad trip on acid look like a child's toy. You know LSD is a drug, and that it lasts a long time. However, your mind totally forgets that you took K, so everything seems completely real and permanent. K also basically stops time so half hour to hour long expeditions have felt like days or weeks. But, if you only took about 1/2 to 2/3 the hole dose, you would have pretty decent hallucinations while still rooted in reality. IMHO though, DMT takes the cake for completely filling your visual with intense images without fucking with your mind at all. Plus, if you don't like it, wait about 5-10 minutes and it's over.
To answer Astian's question below: no.
Three times the normal dose with a fatty bowl of salvia extract produced incredibly vivid hallucinations, but I was always perfectly aware that they were only that. I've done it other times, and my head always feels clear after it--no mindfuck. Have some soup
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IMHO though, DMT takes the cake for completely filling your visual with intense images without fucking with your mind at all.
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You took DMT and it didn't fuck with your mind!?! At all?!
That's *very* different from what most people have to say. My personal DMT experience involved my ego being squashed like a little bug under a sex offender's black, steel toed boot.
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wickedclown_stl -
Sometimes I forget that other people have different experiences than I. I have experienced K at all levels, from a tiny bump with its airy, floaty feeling, to a full blown, completely disconnected mental rollercoaster of a k-hole, and never for one instant has there been a negative moment to the trip.
I believe that if you are mentally strong enough to assume complete control of your k-hole environment, and hold tight to the reins, you will never have a bad trip. If you do not have that strength, and the hole controls you, I can see how a k-hole could be a very bad place to be. When I enter the k-hole, I know beyond a doubt that it is MY world to control, and my direction of it doesn't waver. What I want to happen inside it invariably happens, because within the K-hole, I am God.
I also never seem to lose sight of the fact that this digital playground of shifting fields is both drug-induced and temporary.
I have never tried LSD, so I can't comment on it, but having never experienced a bad trip on any drug I've taken (mushrooms, MDMA, MDA, weed, Ketamine, foxy and a one-time use of GHB), I don't fear it.
 
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I can pretty much control it now, too.
But, the first night I tried it, I IM'ed about 150mg. It thoroughly scared the living shit out of me. I didn't go to another existence or anything neat--I just stayed in my room. But I didn't realize it was my room. I had for some unknown reason watched battlebots earlier, so giant mechanized robots of death kept approaching me to kill me. My wall's turned blood red, my dog turned to Satan. I met God--he screamed at me at told me he hated me. I threw up, it was nasty green. It started boiling and things grew out of it. I realized I couldn't breathe (I was breathing, I just couldn't feel it). I forgot about my real existence. I had nothing to judge by, so it felt like an eternity--my perceived guess would have been about a month.
Reality: 45 minutes. This is just what I remember, I don't want to know what I forgot. I swore I would never do that much again--250mg IM within two weeks, oh well.
While I might be the only one to have that bad of an experience, I feel that the possibility does exist, and that it can be much scarier than any bad trip on acid.
All my K experiences since then have been wonderful, BTW.
 
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