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Want to start going to a methadone clinic. a couple questions

I started going to a clinic over six years ago with a habit similar to yours. At first, doses were $9 and by year six they were $16. The withdrawal from methadone has been so much worse than any other opiate withdrawal I have been through. I still have restless leg feelings that creep up out of nowhere, terrible sleep patterns, and extreme depression. And my last dose was April of 2011. I still use other opiates, not on a daily basis which is good. Although I am not physically addicted anymore, the mental aspect is torturous. I dream about getting high. Literally. I am extremely weary to recommend the clinic to anyone because you sign so much of your life away. And I understand that your current addiction feels the same but I hit absolute ROCK bottom in my life before I got off methadone. I had tried to get off for years but never succeeded. After losing my job, house, etc. to my habits finally left me alone and broke. And by day three of not having methadone I was psychotic. I was brought to a free detox place that I stayed at for five days until I had to check out. I can't stress the physical withdrawal enough. It is a very inhumane experience. If you're serious about getting clean, methadone is not the answer. It's just trading one drug for another. It might be monetarily cheaper but it's just as much of a prison.
 
I dont mean to discourage you but methadone and school ....no. You will be so much better getting sick and getting on bupe. Theres no way youll be able to hide methadone maintenance from parents. They will not even let you go on vacations.If your lucky they give you takehomes otherwise youre Stuck and even if you self medicate nothing really masks methadone wd. Heroin wont even really do it. I wish I had better advice but like dexter said.....waking up waiting in a line with dealers/drug talk/bitchy people who wont shut up about methadone is some of the most annoying shit I have dealt with in my life. And holidays .... your stuck. The lines vary but if you feel sick nothing will piss you off more than some idiot dumbfuck junkie bitching or dealing with junkies in general. I cannot stress this enough. They will be nice to you when you startvbut it gets real old real fucking fast. I always hated the dealer aspect though. or people trying to Cut in line. That sends me in a shit fit.
 
I started going to a clinic over six years ago with a habit similar to yours. At first, doses were $9 and by year six they were $16. The withdrawal from methadone has been so much worse than any other opiate withdrawal I have been through. I still have restless leg feelings that creep up out of nowhere, terrible sleep patterns, and extreme depression. And my last dose was April of 2011. I still use other opiates, not on a daily basis which is good. Although I am not physically addicted anymore, the mental aspect is torturous. I dream about getting high. Literally. I am extremely weary to recommend the clinic to anyone because you sign so much of your life away. And I understand that your current addiction feels the same but I hit absolute ROCK bottom in my life before I got off methadone. I had tried to get off for years but never succeeded. After losing my job, house, etc. to my habits finally left me alone and broke. And by day three of not having methadone I was psychotic. I was brought to a free detox place that I stayed at for five days until I had to check out. I can't stress the physical withdrawal enough. It is a very inhumane experience. If you're serious about getting clean, methadone is not the answer. It's just trading one drug for another. It might be monetarily cheaper but it's just as much of a prison.
Oh this is way better said than what I wrote. Methadone is synthetic. Its gross. It was probably the worse most mentally straining decision I have ever made. Just think about when you get sick. THEY DONT GIVE A FUUCK. If your puking, thats the worse thing that could happen imho on methadone is getting the Flu,or any serious injuries. MY director is a total piece of fucking shit to. He doesnt give a fuck about Anyone but girls who have kids which no offense to ladies I could only Imagine but theres no fairness or civility when your on methadone. I want to say READ THIS SHIT.
 
Also if the reason you are considering methadone as opposed to other options is because you want it to magically remove all your cravings, it unfortunately doesn't work that way. That's why so many people still use heroin or other drugs while on methadone. Some people report that it helps with cravings in the beginning, but once your body adjusts to it all it does is keep you from getting withdrawal symptoms (and even then only in the right dose and frequency of dose). Then it is impossible to get off of and just gets harder and harder the longer you take it. I would never wish methadone withdrawals on my worst enemy, they are the most horrific thing I have ever experienced and many people report that they last from months to even years in some cases. So if bupe doesn't work for you then maybe you just aren't ready to get clean.
 
I've made a decision that I am going to call up a suboxone doctor tomorrow. If I cannot get a shot at the low income suboxone program, then I'm going to see if there are any doctors that will prescribe generic. Is there a way I can go about this by calling docs and asked specifically if they will rx generic subutex (is there generic oxone?). I really do want to get my shit together and don't want to buy it off the street that just seems like it will end up a failure. I want to do this shit the right way, legally, and I want to put down the needles.

Thanks everyone, I'm sure these questions could be answered with a simple phone call just thought i would ask for some input from my fellow bluelight community
 
I've made a decision that I am going to call up a suboxone doctor tomorrow. If I cannot get a shot at the low income suboxone program, then I'm going to see if there are any doctors that will prescribe generic. Is there a way I can go about this by calling docs and asked specifically if they will rx generic subutex (is there generic oxone?). I really do want to get my shit together and don't want to buy it off the street that just seems like it will end up a failure. I want to do this shit the right way, legally, and I want to put down the needles.

Thanks everyone, I'm sure these questions could be answered with a simple phone call just thought i would ask for some input from my fellow bluelight community

You can find a participating physician in the Suboxone program by visiting www.suboxone.com., whether or not that doctor will prescribe Subutex (available as generic buprenorphine) instead of Suboxone will be up to that physician. There is no generic form of bupernorphine/naloxone. I agree, buying it off the street will set you up to fail.
 
regrets

Thanks a lot for the replies guys. Ugh this is so stressful, not any more stressful than the everyday dope fiend journeys we all inevitably take, I just don't know what to do. My parents have just done a lot for me even though they left me on my own at a young age it's completely my fault and I absolutely blame no one but myself for my addictions. I guess it's just anxiety, I cringe thinking of their reactions of finding out their son is an IV drug user and I just feel like a piece of shit. River of deceit is a tune that sums up the grief and guilt well. I can't seem to stay on suboxone to save my life even when I'm taking shots of it.

My parents don't suspect I'm a full blown addict because I just deny deny deny if it's anything close to that subject cause I can't fathom the guilt of how they would take it. Back when my habit was about 75mg oxycodone a day a kicked in Texas visiting my dad and in Disney world with the other side of my family, I just sucked it the fuck up. Now I'd be toast I puke a lot and can do nothing but rock back and forth Indian style curl in a ball freeze and sweat, everyone knows how it is. I seem to have a high metabolism with drugs because I'm dope sick in ten hours even if I'm not slamming opana when they're ER, and that worries me about being a little ill everyday on that two hour drive.


My parents are paying for my place to live until I get in school which is a blessing so I could deal with the extra gas money I guess it comes down to dedication if I'm going to do this the dose journeys seem like the biggest obstacle

First, I've been on methadone in Nashville for over 5 yrs. I wish I never went to a methadone clinic. I am on phase 27 with 27 take home doses. There is so much crap. 424.00 per month.
Staff there degrade clients / patients. For your income I would'nt think you can afford the fee's at Nashville's clinic. If you in any way possible can detox without methadone I suggest you do.
I do everything that's asked of me there. I've been out of town, in Hawaii and returned to find that somehow urine had been submitted against my patient number/name which came back positive for several differeent drugs. The male nurse was the only one that could comprehend that I was out of town, with extra take homes at the time for I only received 2 weeks take homes at a time
and needed extra take homes. He recalled I had put in paperwork for more than 2 weeks, provided receipts when I returned. Finally after an hour they realized I was not even in Nashville during the time the urine was collected and tested. I've been overdosed, the nurse put double doses in each bottle and would listen when I tried to do the right thing. Finally I relented and took the window dose which was double my regular daily dose. I had a moment of weakness and left the window when finished. The head nurse at the time noticed me hesitating and as she said a puzzled look on my face and asked what was wrong and I told her. She had me to return to the window I dosed at and they did a quick count of the methadone on hand. The look on her face was priceless.
All sudden she wanted all my takehomes back and prepared new ones. ( at the time I was on wafers and they put water on them in the bottles)
I suppose what I'm trying to say, methadone is horrible to detox from. Get on the internet and investigate. The crap at the clinic you go thru is a shame. There have been times where the wait time
was 3 hours plus. You should really think before going down the methadone road. Wish I had never heard of it.
I intend to put in for slow detox this coming month. Tired of the crap.
p.s. you get there and are told you need to see the doctor. You wait for hours and the doctor decides to leave. All wrong----------------

Good Luck friend
 
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