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Opioids Want to go off Opana...how to wean myself???

rosepainpt

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I am a chronic pain patient and my doc is not helping me, she will not return my calls and I wanted to get into to see her sooner than my normal next appointment. I am moving to another state in 5 weeks and I may have problems finding a new pain doc anyway, so I may as well get this over with and turn to MJ to help with my pain. I am on Opana ER 30mg 2 x's a day. I have 2 weeks supply left and I have 28 7.5 percs. I have Klonopin 1mgs and I have Elavil and Flexeril. How can I wean myself from the Opana ER. I know you are not supposed to crush them or break them in half, but can I do this to wean myself. I do not want to go through heavy duty wd from stopping cold turkey and I feel this will happen with the way my current doc is acting and I am not having any luck finding a pain doc in the state I am moving to, at least not a pain doc that seems good. I am scared of the pain I will deal with after I am done with wd's because I am in a lot of pain now, but this is becoming total BS. I feel like these docs have total control over my life, not just my pain and I am so mad right now :!. I cannot even get a darn call back. She has not been like this the whole time I have gone to here, but the last 6 months she has treated me like a pain her butt. I do not ever call to get in sooner and I never call to bug her for anything, so I am upset that she cannot/will not return my call and she did this once before when I called 2 months ago. I called her 2 times in the last 2 years and it has only been the last 2 months I had to call her for additional assistance. So, I may as well get this over with and get off the pain meds. I just know Opana is not an easy med to withdrawal from, so any help would be deeply appreciated!!!!!! I have been on strong opiates for chronic pain for over 5 years now.

Thanks,
Rose
 
i loved Opana. i had the same ones you have.. well i wasnt prescribed them but anyways yea thats some heavy medication to just stop. so basically youre still gonna have pain once you come off them right? if so this is gonna be tough
 
Remeber Rose, the doctors work FOR YOU, you don't work for them. If you are willing to get off Opana, it should make your doctor understand that you don't want that in your daily routin anymore. I was on Opana for a while (not prescribed) but I am also at the moment a chronic pain patient. Opana help'd alot with my back pain until I realized I couldn't support my habbit and I didn't want to do it illigaly anymore. I am prescribed Hydro/perc. At that time, I did my last Opana and after that, grabbed a few Suboxone's to help me with my w/d. The Suboxone help'd ease my back pain too at the time so I was very grateful it did that for me too. Talk to your doctor ASAP and tell her your situation and if he/she dosn't understand or is not taking your seriously, then maybe it's time to find a doctor who does. It's a shame when your own doctor sometimes turns the other cheek on you while you are clearly trying to work with them and explain yourself. If you can, and if you want, try and look into Suboxone for a short term use quickly tappering yourself off enough to go back to the other medications you are trying to seek out for help.
 
OctoberRust12....what really makes me mad is I would prefer to be on perc for pain...not ER meds, but listen to this crap....docs claim that percs are so addictive that they would rather RX Opana ER. I read on this board that the BA is only 10%, so I see why it is used in other ways to get a better affect/high. I only use my meds orally as Rx'd. I do not see how percs are more dangerous then Opana in someone's hands. However, she refuses to Rx percs or hydros only for pain and I had to beg for them for breakthrough pain and I have only had them a few months. I know these docs work for me and if she does not return my call then on Monday I am calling back and letting it be known I did not appreciate being ignored. I hope that does not cause additional problems for me. That is why I feel I should just go off the meds and use MJ. At least I will not have wd if I cannot smoke MJ. I am tired of the pain, but I am tired of begging for pain meds to help me and then no call back when I call the doc. I am scared to be honest. I do not want to be in pain and function even less than I already do, I do not want to without pain meds for relief, and I do not want to go through withdrawal. I withdrew from Morphine before, also Rx's to me. I was unable to drive and had no one to take me 2 hours away to my doc. I remember the dread and doom I felt going through with morphine wd, so I do not want to go through even worse wd from Opana. I am bedridden a lot of time, but I also hate that I am dependent on the meds and then not have the support I need from my doc. I called to get in sooner and to schedule an epidural injection in my back, because my pain is not being covered by the 30mg Opana ER 2 x's a day and the 1-2 percs I am allowed a day. I was on 40mg Opana Er 3 x's a day and that helped more than I thought. Then my dose was lowered and even lowering it made me have wd's in the mornings. Not as bad anymore. My brain got use to the lower dose, but I am still in pain. I am not sure what to do. I am also scared of getting to this other state and a new pain doc saying they do not Rx potent pain meds and then I am stuck wd'ing cold turkey. I know I am babbling....sorry! I have 5 weeks here, in the state I am in now, before I move, to work this out and I guess between the pain, the doc not calling me, being tired from not sleeping from the pain, has me in a little panic.

Rose
 
You'll be fine Rose! I don't think they are going to sit there and deny you your original meds once you move. MJ is great for pain and I too should also know. Just sucks that you have to buy it illigely and run the risk of being caught. And it's not like your using it just to get high with friends and drive around and cause shenanigans, your using it for actual pain controle. My pain seems to not be as bad as your's, but chronic pain is chronic and sometimes you need to be able to relieve yourself and feel better. I'm happy that you are using your Opana the right way though! I can't say the same for myself. I first took orally but that wasn't enough. I then had to do the 'junkie' way and grind my pill up and snort it just to get that pain relife. I hated that life-style I felt low... That's why I stopped, but the money was draining out of my wallet! Doctors now-n'-days are very sceared to prescibe pain meds to patients because they want to make sure there asses are covered incase anything goes wrong so they are going to pussy foot around that situation since no one likes to be sued in anyway. If smoking help's you out, then by all means, do what you have to do to get on with your life, no one (on here mostly) will judge you for it. Deff don't cold turkey anything cause you are in chronic pain. Cold turkey is basically for thoes who are not in pain but yet addicted to an opiate. It's not healthy in your situation to do so.

You'll be fine Rose! Trust me! The move will most likely not effect your pain med scripts. They can't just take it away from you like that. Yeah,alot of doctors are differen't, and some don't agree with others, but you also don't want to w/d and you make sure you tell them that. They are not going to take that away from you, that would just be cruel. Sorry if my post is all over the place, trying to type quickly before I go to my physical therapy lol! If you need to talk, please PM me with any questions or if you just need someone to talk to, you don't have to do this alone! <3
 
OctoberRust12---thanks so much. Glad to hear my chances of a doc somewhere else will give me my meds so I do not have to wd cold turkey from them. Damn, I do not know what I would do if I used my meds the "wrong way" on a regular basis. I worry enough about wd'ing from taking them as Rx'd. Hope your PT goes well and hang in there. Not that I have never done things, so I am not trying to come off as miss perfect or innocent...just trying not to get myself in trouble, at least not more than I already feel I am in taking my meds "the right way". I understand the difference between addiction and dependence, but no matter what, when you have to go without the opiate, you still feeling the same hell. I have also built up a high tolerance to Opana taking them as Rx'd, so there really is no other place to go except not taking them as rx'd, or lowering the dose and suffering more. Hoping I find a doc in the south who will help me better than the docs did here. I want to get back to my life. Again, thanks a lot for your help.

Rose
 
Rose I'm on Opana too I just started doing them rectally to slow down how many I take per day. I don't know how to wean without too much w/ds. Good luck. .. Lutopia
 
I've been on Opana for that last 2-3 years and it is pretty strong. Now granted I don't normally take them as I should but I will tell you that if you just stop cold turkey, you will be pretty uncomfortable for 2-4 days and then it'll all be in your head. I speak from experience on an almost monthly basis because I'm a dumb shit and run out early all the time. Seriously, you will be OK, and it couldn't hurt as long as you have some left, slow the pace down and then just quit. BTW, those new Opana's can be cut into quarters with a good pill-cutter. Good Luck!
 
I don't know what to say. Weaning myself on to a lower dose of OxyContin has been one of the hardest things I've had to do. Now weening with something 3 x as strong. Fuck...

That said. If you have to cut em use a pill cutter as it does it precisely (with OC "old formula" to you) and the pills retain their most of their time release. We don't get opana here (thank god).

You really need a doc's advice on this.
 
Tapering is really the same in theory with anything. In order to do it and not feel withdrawal during the process, the taper needs to be very gradual. You have to find what reductions you can handle. 25% a week, etc.

There are many ways to taper, many schedules one could create and follow. It all depends on how fast they want to taper, and how their individual body handles the drops in dosages.

We are going to be creating a tapering megathread soon that goes into all of this in detail. So, stay tuned for that.
 
^ Like what scag said, except it doesn't NEED to be gradual, gradual is a luxury (but I'm a bit masochistic with myself). It all depends how much you wanna suffer (to be blunt). If you want it to be a painless taper (if there is such a thing with the oxys) then yes very gradual reductions. Usually decrease in weekly decrements or bi-weekly decrements. But there are quite a few ways to go about this.
 
I kid you not! I take 40mg twice a day and 60mg oxy oxycodone and I've run out early the last 3-4 months and sometimes as much as 10 days early. Physically, I'm fine in 4-5 days. Then it's all in your head. Maybe in need of some caffeine. Seriously, early in my usage I used to trickle in stuff to make it last but it always led to the same result. I was going to hurt for awhile, so I'd just go through and tough it out till the refill day hit. You can do it.
 
That's a very small opiate habit.

3-5 days of acute-withdrawal is not the norm. Not even close. It's far from just being in peoples, heads man. People with heavy and even moderate sized habits, who have been using long periods of time, are still very ill 2-3 weeks often into their kick. The major physical symptoms (especially from opiates with longer half-lives) don't end for about a month, followed by another few months-year of PAWS.

Trust me, if it was so easy as wham bam thank you mam, kick opiates in less then a week, then you're right as rain... everyone would do it.

That's good that your particular detox is that short, but don't try to convince people that that's how it is supposed to be and the norm. It's not.
 
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