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Opioids Walking the Line--Any advice is helpful!

Yeah i don't think i could go on tapentodol. It's an NRI and i take effexor for depression which is an SNRI. I believe that together they could cause seizures, but I'm going to be going off effexor soon (a taper from my psychiatrist because effexor withdrawal is hell). So maybe thatll be a possibility.

My mom is willing to hold onto my pills once I get my new meds :). We didn't directly talk about my abuse of meds but there was def an unspoken shared thought.
 
Yeah, that could work. For chronic pain, BuTrans patch works well with no euphoria to speak of, as well. It also lasts a week.
 
Butrans did nothing for my pain but i was on 5mcg for one week. Most people are on higher amounts and put on a new one every 3 days. Idk, I'm just hoping whatever they decide is going to control my pain well. I think that when the meds don't work at the prescribed dose, it makes me feel like there is no point for me to take it properly.
 
Well. I'm not going to have anything until the 13th. I've dug this grave so now I have to lie in it. I feel like killing myself but I mostly know I won't, it all seems so pointless. I have a little left, so I don't know, I may just go completely cold turkey and deal with it.
 
Just know you aint alone if you need help feel free to talk to us or make a post i hope the best for you.
 
How's it going? Send me a message (update) on your health. I see my pain specialist tomorrow...time to titrate up on Oxycontin or MS Contin...my current dose of Oxycodone (10mg, 4X a day) is fine. The ER med needs to be increased though. Let me know how you're doing.
 
My mom is helping me taper and holding onto my remaining pills, which is so awkward. I'm using kratom + loperamide + mulungu (an herb that attaches to the same receptors as diazepam). I'm hoping that soon maybe my physical symptoms will lessen a bit. Anyway, I deserve what I'm getting, I know it could be so much worse, but it still isnt great having intestines that would like to escape from my body apparently.
 
6 more days until I don't have to do this tapering dance (It is not making me the nicest person right now). I'm not taking anything today because I am off from work and don't want to use up my remaining pills/kratom. Do you think this is a bad idea? I'm hoping whatever I experience is mild, so that I don't need to take much of anything until I get my script. Murr, I wanna lay in bed all day and sleep.
 
Lucy, my darling girl, you really, really shouldn't have to be either worrying about medication, or being in unbearable pain in this day and age! It seems to me that most doctors and GP's are generally rather ignorant on the subject of pain, and are more concerned with 'avoiding addiction' than providing comfort and freedom from agony for their patients. There are specialists fortunately, who will help you to manage your pain with care and compassion - and if that means being dependent or reliant on addictive drugs, will take that into account, and make sure you are never deprived of them. It makes me very annoyed, this paranoia about 'addiction' - nobody ever criticises a person suffering from diabetes, say, for being reliant (or addicted) to a daily dose of insulin. Nor someone reliant on drugs to control thie blood pressure or faulty hearts, to keep them alive, day by day. I myself am absolutely and irrevocably 'addicted' to amphetamines, in order to have any sort of worthwhile, bearable and useful life, free from soul destrying depression and crushing exhaustion.


Don't despair, or be afraid - expert help is out there for you somewhere. I just wish the same could be said for me ... moan... drone... but so be it! Good luck, healing thoughts and love XXXXX
 
Just wanted to chime in and let you know that you're not alone in the struggle to find decent pain management. There's a pain management megathread here in OD somewhere that offers lots of good support and relatable experience. I saw probably at least ten different specialists, went to three pain clinics, had lots of big needles stuck in my spine, and had lots of doctors refuse to treat my pain before I found a PM doc who did it WITHOUT opioid painkillers. I'm on low dose naltrexone which is used for autoimmune issues and it has been amazing for me. I also have been an IV opiate user for almost ten years and I would abuse my opi scripts every month, and be sick every month, so this is a much better deal for me. Hang in there, good luck, keep us posted, and you might even try doing a little reading on the low dose naltrexone to see if it's something you may want to try. Beware though, there are a lot of unfounded claims regarding its efficacy on diseases such as cancer and AIDS even, so take most of what you read with a grain of salt and use multiple sources to get a bigger picture.
 
thanks guys :)

Yes, I need to find a new doc, but at least for now I have someone. I have had a long time (8 year) on and off problem with opiates (IV and all). I guess, I don't want to stop getting them yet--after being in pain for 13 years with not even a mention of pm (I was a pediatric patient though). I take a shit ton of meds already so why not add more; I'm on adderall for hypersomnia as well as autoimmune meds for arthritis, meds for asthma, and depression. I'm 24, but I take around 11 medications.

I have been avoiding the pain management thread because a lot of pm patients have been injured later in life, whereas I have had an autoimmune disease since age 11 and I didn't get any medical help until now. I'm a bit bitter or jealous because usually those people get over medicated for everything immediately and I had to just suck it up. My dad crushed his sacrilliac when I was a teen, and he complained so much that it kinda eliminated my sympathy. (I stole his meds when I was 16--my first introduction to drugs/opiates--if that says anything.) But hearing from you both had changed my mind about it, and makes me think I should post there. I need to let go of this stupid resentment.

Today, I didn't take any Kratom, loperamide or hydrocodone--nothing!--without withdrawal symptoms besides a headache and arthritis pain (but that's not surprising). I feel quite good about everything. I even started to taper my effexor xr (under psychiatrist supervision of course). Hopefully, I can stay on this positive track. :)

Thank you,
Lucy
 
Well done Lucy, you clearly have lots of courage and determination!Sending you spiritual healing, hugs and kisses sweetie... wortha try? XXXXX
 
Trying to post new thread but keep saying select prefix. I have no idea what that is and don't see anything like that on website so I figured if would post here and maybe someone help. I'm currently on 180 10-325, 240 30 roxicodone and 60 80mg. I don't feel any warmth anymore and I don't get any euphoria. Heron addicts are on it for 10 years and still feel it. I totally blame my doctor. I was naive 4 years ago. Has me on super high amount but now so hooked I have to play the game. Only one pharmacy y will fill my scripts which is another topic. I'm just out of hope. I'm screwed if I stop and screwed if I keep on. But with forum l time job and wife and kids just have too.
 
You may get more help in the pain management thread. Also, the prefix is what type of drug it is, I believe there is a drop down menu for it.
 
Lucy Bookit said:
My mom is helping me taper and holding onto my remaining pills, which is so awkward. I'm using kratom + loperamide + mulungu (an herb that attaches to the same receptors as diazepam). I'm hoping that soon maybe my physical symptoms will lessen a bit. Anyway, I deserve what I'm getting, I know it could be so much worse, but it still isnt great having intestines that would like to escape from my body apparently.
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Speaking of someone holding on to your meds, I finally had to go that route last month. I take 2 Opana ER's a day and simply could not stop from taking an additional pill at night to get through. I'd end up running out early and getting sick as shit every 2-3 months (I've run out as early as 10 days before) and I have to tell you, any part of having my wife give me two pills each morning is replaced by knowing I will have my meds up till my refill date every time. No more graveling to the doc to fill it early or that day or whatever else I'd say. I just breeze on in, see the doc, talk a bit and pick up my scripts and say have a good day. No stress whatsoever!

So, if you're at that point, look at it as a good thing in that all stress levels are basically gone, assuming your pill-holder doesn't play games with you or make things difficult in the process. My wife has basically been a godsend through all of this and I'm extremely grateful for her assistance. I wish you the best and feel free to contact me if you'd like. Hang in there!
 
Lucy Bookit said:
You may get more help in the pain management thread. Also, the prefix is what type of drug it is, I believe there is a drop down menu for it.
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Not on the mobile phone version of the site. One needs to select to see the desktop version to do that. Same with private messaging looking at someone's profile.
 
I am getting my script filled by my mom as we speak. I'm so relieved. I think we'll work out a dosing schedule and life should be great.
 
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