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suzieq70s

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If this is against the rules please let me know

I'm getting ready to make an appointment with a new doctor closer to me

I'm looking for ideas of vitamins multivitamins or health supplements to talk to him about to add to my daily routine. I have no idea where to start. I have no experience with them. Never taken any before

I'm a 40 year old female

A year ago I had my lady hormone levels checked and everything with that was normal. No menopause

I take:

Levothyrixine 175mcg daily

Gabapentin 400 mg daily (although that's not accurate. I use it recreationally. 1200mg at a time spread throughout the month)

Ambien 10mg almost every night

Butalbital 50mg (fioricet) as needed this is almost always used as prescribed

I'm having problems with low energy feeling sluggish and tired all the time. I don't know I guess just maybe some ideas of something to help improve my quality of life so that I can do a little research on them and have some sort of idea of what to discuss with him

I apologize if this is way to vague. Ask me anything I'll be happy to clarify

And again if its against the rules please let me know

Thankyou in advance for any responses
 
Hi!

I prefer supplements over drugs for maintenance and recovery any time, any day. I advise looking into buying bulk and measuring out doses yourself and then mixing them into a smoothie. There are actually a few suppliers on Amazon that are quite affordable, IE you can get an entire year's supply for $20 or so, instead of paying $10 for a 2 month supply in a bottle already capped out. Just experiment with what works best for you and then mix it into smoothies or juice as drinking powders can be quite nasty. I was actually quite a supplement nut for quite some time and have just now been starting to transition into this realm. Take care of your kidneys and liver and try to make sure your water consumption is quite high. Here is a good starting point --

look into adaptogenic herbs and mushrooms (not Psilocybin...lol) Believe it or not, mushrooms could potentially have a nootropic effect and there are quite a few worth looking into. I'll list what's on my own "to buy list" and maybe it will serve as a decent reference.

Tumeric, Red Reishi Mushroom powder, Cordyceps, Lions Mane extract, Tulsi powder, eleuthero powder, Bacopa powder, Ashwanga, Cordyceps mushroom powder, red yeast extract....

and then of course, the more traditional ones like gingko, choline, etc.

Hope this helps... It's quite a bit of research...
 
Yeah, vitamin pills are placebos at best unless you're quite malnourished and your doctor prescribes them. The folks selling them know this which is why there is practically no quality control or actually standardized amounts in most pills.
If you get them from behind the counter on a doctors prescription it's different.
Nootropics are only half bullshit though, might want to look into the racetams. Buyer beware though, most vendors are a lot shadier than their websites look.
 
Thankyou rossak. That's the kind of advice I was looking for. Just kind of a good starting point
 
GolemGolem said:
Yeah, vitamin pills are placebos at best unless you're quite malnourished and your doctor prescribes them. The folks selling them know this which is why there is practically no quality control or actually standardized amounts in most pills.
If you get them from behind the counter on a doctors prescription it's different.
Nootropics are only half bullshit though, might want to look into the racetams. Buyer beware though, most vendors are a lot shadier than their websites look.
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What would you say if I told you that my current diet was complete crap. No vegetables and minimal fruit maybe twice a month. And that I don't see it changing any time soon. As much as my life is in chaos right now rather then tackling the right now insurmountable task of overhauling my daily eating habits for the time being is rather take a few vitamins to helps get jump started in the right direction.

Would you have any suggestions then
 
Well you're going to a new doctor to talk about this which is good, I'd ask for bloodwork and see what you're missing that way, and then go with what the Doc says. Maybe he'll suggest 1 quality-ish multivitamin ( Centrum?) with breakfast before the results come back and you two discuss them.
I eat like the harried poor person I am (lots of fried shit, not too many veggies, way too much sugar), but peanuts, bananas, oranges, and yogurt most days seem to be getting the job done if my blood is to be believed (along with a physical job). It's just every time I come across an article on vitamin studies it's that if anything they increase risk of death, normally by cancer.
 
If you are set on taking vitamins then check out the Labdoor ratings.

I'm taking Garden Of Life protein powder and multi. Idk about the long term benefits or cancer risk but my doctor told me I had pre osteoporosis and low vitamin D levels.

Since a year ago I started taking calcium and D and my nails are rock hard now. So it's doing something. Also I had a weird thing which the internet rumoured to be caused by low D and that's been kept at bay.

I need to get blood work done again and see where I am. I never used to take vitamins but now I'm a semi believer.

My parents and grandparents took handfuls of vitamins for years. Just for the record they all lived into their 80's and 90's, my mom now 80 and healthy. The only cancer was skin cancer, removed successfully. They all died of heart related issues. Their diets were heavy beef, butter, bacon and deep fried with a healthy amount of vegetables and for two, unhealthy amounts of alcohol and/or opiates.
 
Thankyou sliceofcake and golem for your responses. It helps get me pointed in the right direction and I will check out the labdoor ratings sliceofcake. Thankyou again
 
Being someone who would fill their stomach with pills till it jiggles like an ornament, I've eventually terminated majority of supplemental vitamins and micro/macrominerals. GF has explained before in the PED Section that if you have a balanced diet then you're achieving more than optimal quantities of quality nutrients. Minus the few exceptions for specific dietary recommendations/requirements or you suffer from inadequate intrinsic factors regulating some vitamin metabolism (cobalamin analogues or B12 is highly feeble and tends to suffer from degredation during digestion and specific molecular factors have to be present for utilization, other one off the top of my head is B3 too).
 
suzieq70s said:
Thankyou rossak. That's the kind of advice I was looking for. Just kind of a good starting point
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My pleasure. Remember - food is always superior to pill ROA.With the right supplementation, some people theorize you can alter your very body chemistry. It's definitely debatable. I suggest doing some research into Ray Kurzweil (who will also sell you vits FWIW) as a good starting point. Unfortunately I don't have time to answer this thread with more detail as I am on my way out, however if you have any questions feel free to ask and I'll do my best to point you in the right direction when I have more time to make a detailed post. Peace
 
As mentioned, get a blood work up from your new doctor first. Use the data to identify nutritional deficiencies.

The average physician does not take vitamin supplementation seriously, and by identifying yourself as a believer in non-prescription supplements, will label you as uninformed.

Physicians receive scant nutritional training in their pre-med curriculum. They prefer the prescription strength substances which Big Phatma reps tout in offering rewards and kickbacks.
 
Akbar Rabbitowitz said:
As mentioned, get a blood work up from your new doctor first. Use the data to identify nutritional deficiencies. The average physician does not take vitamin supplementation seriously, and by identifying yourself as a believer in non-prescription supplements, will label you as uninformed. Physicians receive scant nutritional training in their pre-med curriculum. They prefer the prescription strength substances which Big Phatma reps tout in offering rewards and kickbacks.
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I think identifying yourself as an authority on any thing of this nature labels you as potentially uninformed. Do you consider medical advancement an ongoing process or something that's been solved already? If you believe in the latter, can you post any conclusive evidence suggesting why? Do you think that holistic supplementation has no place in healing or that it can be an element of a well balanced maintenance regimen that's up to the individual to research and make determinations? No one will ever debate that a well balanced diet can be much more effective and few will contest that adding something like curcumin would hurt. So in the best case, it's wonderful and in the worst case, you can expect very little damage or known side effects from supplementing.Most of these substances have been staples in human diets for a LONG time.... It's worth thinking about. My intent here is not to come off as argumentative but I do find your stance troubling. Maybe I misinterpreted it. If you look over the list I posted and google some of them, you will find plenty of positivity flowing around them. Blood work will not spot or treat some of the deficiencies that these wonderful substances CAN, before turning to drugs as a last resort. I do not think they are placebos, personally based on my trials and error and I am not anti drug by any means. Hope this helps OP *edit - for some reason I can't split paragraphs when I post. It's prob my browser. In any case, not sure if this is against the rules, but here OP https://books.google.com/books?id=4...IRDAG#v=onepage&q=deterring adaptogen&f=false
 
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