violence and LSD 25

[bigbangaz]

hi im currently on zyprexa(5 mg) for my b polar behavior. i have a lot of violent fit in which i tend to broke stuff and insult my parents i ve been contemplantin a lot about lsd 25 and i wanna try it just for once can it leads to violence when its over (few days after the trip) anyways if i wanna trip i need to stop taking zyprexa (3 days 50 hours +-) what do u think can i try it once?

 

[sekio]

Bipolar disorder is completely contraindicated with psychedelics, especially long-lasting ones like LSD.

If you do dose LSD you should know you will have a high risk of going manic or otherwise out of control during the experience. It's best for you to stay on your medication and not dose LSD but if you do decide to, please have a sober sitter who knows how to deal with you if things go haywire.

Some people report lasting after-effects after LSD usage but they are usually more HPPD-type things than violent thoughts or ideation. But it's entirely possilbe LSD could cause depression or other thought disorders, so be careful.

 

[JBrandon]

Sounds like a recipe for disaster. Do not stop taking your medications!

 

[B9]

Anyone ever find themselves on a short fuse the day after LSD ?
I used to when I was a youth and would trip all night and I don't think it was entirely due to sleep deprivation, more that a certain aspect that dwelt within which was generally kept leashed was let free.
Fortunately the mad dog seems to have fled years ago tho one can never be sure so I only trip in the daylight hours now

 

[rhizome]

From the Wikipedia entry

"The British National Formulary recommends a gradual withdrawal when discontinuing treatment to avoid acute withdrawal syndrome or rapid relapse.[39] Due to compensatory changes at dopamine, serotonin, adrenergic and histamine receptor sites in the central nervous system, withdrawal symptoms can occur during abrupt or over-rapid reduction in dosage. Withdrawal symptoms reported to occur after discontinuation include nausea, emesis, lightheadedness, diaphoresis, dyskinesia, orthostasis, tachycardia, nervousness, dizziness, headache, excessive non-stop crying, and anxiety. "

I actually registered to say that this is probably a not-great idea. You might have enough response at the receptors to get off 50 hours after the last dose, but the above would be pretty much a laundry list of " Things that will turn a trip into a nightmare". A first trip is nerve-racking enough w/o complications.

If you're going to go ahead with it, please please please have a sober sitter and a hefty dose of a quick acting anti-psychotic on hand- and make sure your sitter knows where it is and how to dose it. I like Seroquel myself- It's come in handy more than once. I don't know what your experience is with anti-psychotics, so I can't recommend a dose. I know that 50mg will pretty much floor me, but my wife takes 4-500mg nightly as a psych med, and sometimes even that won't put her down. So YMMV. Have enough to meet your potential need.

I dunno- Mebbe wait for a better time?

 

[ayavisions]

I used to be on zyprexa, was possible 'bipolar'. I decided that the meds and psychiatrists had created my bipolar, the power of suggestion hey??? Zyprexa is a very powerful drug and I cannot recommend you stop it for a trip, as the withdrawals are bad. If you do and the trip goes bad, take double your dose (so 10mg) or 7.5 if you have the 2.5mg pills. It will kill the trip dead, but will take about 30/40 minutes. I would just wait until you are in a better situation because if you had a violent flip out during the trip its not going to be pretty and it might set you back mentally and cause extreme paranoia. Then again you may be fine.

 

[ChronicHD]

Are these responses serious? This is a harm reduction site. Do NOT quit taking your medications and do NOT trip. If you were on the meds for some other reason maybe it would be plausible, but you are known bi-polar (not a good mix with LSD) and prone to violence (also not a good mix with LSD).