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Let me begin by saying I am no fan of Hamilton Morris, he's a journalist who infers that he has some knowledge of organic chemistry. He has NONE. Evidently someone less photogenic is responsible for his technical pronouncements.
But I WAS interested by a small section on his investigation into the abuse of methaqualone in South Africa. It's not synthetically complex but the official precursors are tightly controlled. 37.30-42.32 IS interesting.
Now, of not practical interest since the precursors are so tightly controlled but rather than needing PCl5 or polyphosphoric acid to dehydrate the reaction, it's driven thermally i.e. a molecule of water is driven off as steam.
It reminds me of how the Russians managed to make desoxymorphine (badly) from codeine using iodine & red phosphorous and using brick cleaner (HCl), caustic soda and gasoline to first isolate the codeine.
A testament to the human imagination. Neither reaction was ever in a formal paper or even in a paper-mill article. Someone simply used logic and possibly a pencil and paper to work it out,
When you SEE the product I am confident that nobody is about to try this (or I wouldn't have posted) but in both cases it's poor, marginalised groups using the little knowledge they obtained via word of mouth to better their lot (in the short term). I'm sure we all saw what Krokodil does to people, but here the methaqualone maker complains of urinating blood and HM mentioning that one of the precursors is known to cause bladder cancer,
I seriously doubt that the makers of either compound has a reasonable life expectancy, which tells you how they are prepared to swap the awful quantity for a short quality. Upsetting is the best term I can think of. I also know that Soviets used to make methcathinone from pseudoephedrine and Russians still abuse tropicamide (eye drops). A drug referred to as ' трехмесячный' (3 monther - life expectancy).
We keep hearing hearing about these crazy, dangerous drugs but I wonder how many more simply do not make it into mass media.
Anyway - it's an interesting watch. Ask yourself if you would touch THAT product. I don't know where the ABBA (N-acetyl anthranilic acid) came from, but it looks like coal!
But I WAS interested by a small section on his investigation into the abuse of methaqualone in South Africa. It's not synthetically complex but the official precursors are tightly controlled. 37.30-42.32 IS interesting.
Now, of not practical interest since the precursors are so tightly controlled but rather than needing PCl5 or polyphosphoric acid to dehydrate the reaction, it's driven thermally i.e. a molecule of water is driven off as steam.
It reminds me of how the Russians managed to make desoxymorphine (badly) from codeine using iodine & red phosphorous and using brick cleaner (HCl), caustic soda and gasoline to first isolate the codeine.
A testament to the human imagination. Neither reaction was ever in a formal paper or even in a paper-mill article. Someone simply used logic and possibly a pencil and paper to work it out,
When you SEE the product I am confident that nobody is about to try this (or I wouldn't have posted) but in both cases it's poor, marginalised groups using the little knowledge they obtained via word of mouth to better their lot (in the short term). I'm sure we all saw what Krokodil does to people, but here the methaqualone maker complains of urinating blood and HM mentioning that one of the precursors is known to cause bladder cancer,
I seriously doubt that the makers of either compound has a reasonable life expectancy, which tells you how they are prepared to swap the awful quantity for a short quality. Upsetting is the best term I can think of. I also know that Soviets used to make methcathinone from pseudoephedrine and Russians still abuse tropicamide (eye drops). A drug referred to as ' трехмесячный' (3 monther - life expectancy).
We keep hearing hearing about these crazy, dangerous drugs but I wonder how many more simply do not make it into mass media.
Anyway - it's an interesting watch. Ask yourself if you would touch THAT product. I don't know where the ABBA (N-acetyl anthranilic acid) came from, but it looks like coal!