Very effective tricks, tips, to quickly boost and enhance dopamine quickly non drugs

[Intenselife]

As a person who already suffers with depression and have since I was 12 (I'm 22 now) I am desperate in hopes of hearing someone that may have a trick/tips in how to quickly raise and maintain dopamine levels. I have been taking vyvanse a few times a week even though I am prescribed to it once a day, I can't handle the comedown and how I feel when it wears off. I was prescribed adderall twice a day and that was the same reason I only took that a few times a week, was because I could not tolerate the side effects when it wears off (which was way worse then Vyvanse).

Despite of the fact that I am prescribed klonopin that I take daily twice a day never more, it doesn't help with the crash as much as it would if I wasn't prescribed to it daily. Back in the days I would count my blessings if I was lucky enough to obtain a benzo, weed, or anything else when recreationally taking amphetamines. Now I have so much that I do to alleviate the comedown and am afraid their is not much other options that are healthy left. The last time I took the vyvanse was over 3 days ago, and unfortunately this time I never came back to normality (or my normality since I am depressed usually not "normal"). I was able to shockingly fall asleep for 5-6 hours which normally I don't get none the preceding day and feel kinda out of it until I fall asleep that next night and wake up the next day back to my typical state of being. However in the past few days I haven't woke up feeling how I normally do. As many side effects because of my depression, I already have a hard time functioning but usually can get by the day with some weed without feeling tooo horrid.

For the first time ever, I have been getting up with severe cravings for vyvanse (one of the least drugs I thought id have this problem too) Because when I take it those few times a week I feel like most normal people do. I used to think I was getting some wild euphoria etc etc but then realized all it does is block a lot of negative thoughts, induces positivity, and allows me to be able to watch tv or get on the internet which I have a hard time doing in my depressed state. It has gotten so bad now that for the past few days, I would smoke and I find myself just sitting their trying to force myself to text some friends, get on the computer and resume whatever I typically do but haven't been able to! I sit their for hours like zombie being plagued with no motivation and all my worries.

I don't know how much lack of dopamine is in my brain for me to feel that horrible even though I do so much when coming down which includes:
-Green tea (helps a little)
-Klonopin (Prevents withdrawal, slows down heart rate thats about it)
-Omega 3 (I guess its good for you, and also gets me higher off weed)
-Magnesium (Good for my bones, and initially reduced anxiety as well)
-Eating (Of course like everyone else I don't have any appetite or thirst on amphetamines, but I have mastered at forcefully eating small meals to keep me from feeling worse or sick.
-Exercise (Do i need to go over the thousand benefits that exercise provides, and is suppose to steadily increase dopamine supply reduces anxiety and depression, however for me it does reduce the anxiety and irritability but depression still persists)

---I Can't think of anything else to do in my current control to further reduce the comedown which I admit is soooo mild compared to some REAL HELL COMEDOWNS that ive had in the past. But despite of it being so much more managable etc, I still can't help but feel depressed even worse then I already normally do. I even do the things I mentioned daily not just when coming down, I just don't know what is wrong with me. I have tried several SSRI's long before I even tried drugs, and I never reacted well with them. Can anyone help??? My nasty comedown from feeling normal to crazy (which I probably am even though others can't tell) is going to start soon and before I lose complete motivation/desire to get back on here for days, I would love a reply that will be very helpful to me.

---I also have even tried yoga poses for stress when coming down, music for dopamine, and even deep breathing exercises! Theirs nothing left... Is their really something wrong in my brain?
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[Intenselife]

Their has to be someway to release large amounts of dopamine quickly besides drugs, maybe a pressure point in the head or something, anyone?

 

[doIhavePotential]

Try long distance running, hiking in the woods/valley/forest or some physical activity that pushes you.

 

[Dysphoric]

I used to take amphetamines for ADHD about 4-5 years ago. I was last prescribed Desoxyn. Anyways nothing can get rid of the crash from amps. Once you get to the point that its dysphoric, its not worth taking anymore. I advise you quit taking it. It will get worse, and the longer you take it the more strain it will have on your overall well-being. There is no pressure point that will suddenly get you going again. Its a hell of a lot more complicated than just 'dopamine deficiencies'.

I'd also quit taking the benzodiazepines due to their extremely physiological addictiveness, unless you have anxiety disorder in general. However, if you're using it just to soften the crash than get off of them ASAP.

 

[_DankOpiAmp_]

Levo-dopa is the precursor to dopamine, you could take that. Seriously though lol, try fucking some bitches or going to an amusement park. Dur! Anything fun/new/exciting releases dopamine. Switch to Dexedrine if you want a better amphetamine effect. It is shorter and sweeter. Idk why the fuck you get such bad comedown so perhaps because there is so much lingering effect with Vyvanse. Here is where Dexedrine comes in.

 

[blight12]

Their has to be someway to release large amounts of dopamine quickly besides drugs, maybe a pressure point in the head or something, anyone?

If there was I am sure it would be quite popular by now, or be a drug, or most likely some secret some luck asshole is keeping to himself. Of course many more "magical" faiths, like yoga (the real faith not this americanised version where its mostly just excercises) can induce any state they want. But that takes years.

Fun things also dont help since you need dopamine to be rewarded when doing them. Best thing i do is drink until im feeling better, or take some other drug. It only takes a day. And watch movies, until its over, distract yourself

Exercise might help but more for the endorphine benefit.

 

[Chinggis]

This is a no-brainer: get on an antidepressant. Don't focus on dopamine, focus on feeling good. Stop taking drugs that fuck with your dopamine and other neurotransmitter.

 

[blight12]

This is a no-brainer: get on an antidepressant. Don't focus on dopamine, focus on feeling good. Stop taking drugs that fuck with your dopamine and other neurotransmitter.

Lol what, you do realize the huge contradiction in your post there right? Antidepressant's "fuck with your dopamine and other neurotransmitter" as well in worse ways, unless you mean some natural shit or something. They mess with Serotonin and are addictive and hard to get off. Dopamine is fine to fuck with mostly, it recovers quick, but dont fuk with Serotonin and dont take anything that does unless you are 100% sure that you have an issue related to that, like for example you broke you brain on MDMA and therefore an SSRI might help.

OP, you said depression, what kind of depression, what was it diagnosed as and related to what? Do you know for certain its dopamine related? Depression is usually Serotonin related. SSRI's did help me and i took them for years.

Dopamine related issues feel like frustration with everything and a lack of pleasure in day to day activities, ADD symptoms, annoyance etc.

Depression I would not link to dopamine, unless your depressed indirectly because of the dopamine issue effects? It feels totally different.

Or depression as in your just generally unhappy with life?

There is the last thing you can do, simply change your attitude. Just pretend to be happy and feel good. It works after a while. A positive attitude is way more powerful then anybody realizes. Its not just all in the head like people think it is.

I did that for years after loosing most of my emotion after MDMA. Just play the correct part, decide what should and shouldn't make you happy and enjoy the benefits of your situation. In my case less emotion resulted in a much greater capacity for logical analytical thinking and the ability to manipulate people and think like a psychopath. Helps a lot in running my business.

In my case though, anxiety is fear which is a strong motivator. Depression is a bad motivator. If there are things in life that dont leave you depressed then maybe its not chemical but rather you just need a lifestyle change.

 

[_DankOpiAmp_]

This is a no-brainer: get on an antidepressant. Don't focus on dopamine, focus on feeling good. Stop taking drugs that fuck with your dopamine and other neurotransmitter.

Retard alert! Antidepressants have no capacity to make you feel good ( referring to SSRI's specifically) serotonin is also not the feel good chemical, that idea is just a scam to sell useless drugs that have no abuse potential. As the above poster said, using them is fucking with your neurotransmitters hardcore. At least fun drugs have a reliable positive effect... It is ironic you say focus on feeling good when those drugs just put you in a zombie discomfort state and the action of dopamine is what defines feeling good.

 

[marx131]

Vipassana Meditation. It's a form of buddhism. Everytime I've been clean, I truly think it was more because of that than any time twelve steps or meetings. Even when I go back to using, I continue to meditate on a daily basis. It helps me in so many ways.

 

[omnipresenthuman]

Not to be facile or rude...but, you could just get off the amps? ADD is not some incurable disease, just saying; you can argue that if you want but come on, HIV positive folks have to literally stay on their meds to stay alive - there is a difference

good luck but my take: taking amphetamines to focus is just like taking any other artificial drug daily - you just have to deal with the consequences on your own terms...exercise is the best weapon you have IMO...meditation works better but physical exercise is what I'd recommend because it's easier to master

 

[psychonautical420]

You need to figure out why you are depressed and work through it. I don't think anyone is "just depressed". There has to be a reason for it. A baby doesn't come out of the womb hating life.

Honestly, I recommend psychotherapy of some sort. I don't like counselors, a good friend who has there shit together and "gets it" would be way better. You need to talk to someone.

I honestly think a psychedelic could help also. You would have to be in a positive state of mind with someone who you trust though.

Do some research on using psychedelics for that kind of thing. Ask me if you wanna know more..

I don't believe that amphetamines will help at all. That's a temporary fix. I wouldn't be surprised if they made it worse over time (while you are not on them of course...)

I know you aren't taking them, but antidepressants are a load of shit IMO. I've been on celexa, Zoloft and some other antidepressant and they never helped one tiny bit. I was still depressed and I still self harmed (have quite a history of cutting...).

I'm recommending drugs, because I honestly feel that it could help. As long as you are in a POSITIVE SET AND SETTING. If not, they could hurt.

Talking is really awesome though. Talk to someone, whatever you do.

Don't take the pharmaceutical bullshit.

For the record, I've struggled a LOT with anger and depression. Mainly depression. I used to cut myself and have scars on my arm and thigh. Tbh, I still have problems but I'm doing so much better. I haven't cut in at least 6 months, and before that it had been about 6 months. So I think I've done it once in the last year. Used to be about once a week, maybe more..

Talking to people and using psyches have helped me. Getting out of my bad situation helped the most though.

Psychedelics allow me to understand myself, others and the world around me. They show me the beauty of life. Pretty therapeutic, IMO. They make the thoughts flow non stop and allow me to see things from a brand new perspective...

Psychedelics have taught me how to love and understand myself. That's a pretty big deal.