Mental Health Venlafaxine

[90sdance]

Hi all,

Have not posted here in years, but i may be back as i have questions and some thoughts to share. Anyway, i am currently on venlafaxine XR 150mg (brand name Effexor XR) for depression and anxiety. I have not touched any other drugs since i was prescribed it some years ago (my drug of choice was MDMA which i stopped taking as the adulterated substances, some seemingly fooling test kits, became too dangerous). In any case, i would like discontinue the venlafaxine with the absolute least amount of negative side effects possible. So this is why i come to YOU, i hope that here, among the scientists, the alchemists, the chemical connoisseurs and the space cadets, that you could conjure up for me some manner of magic to fight back against what some claim are the inevitable throws of discontinuation (no matter how gradual). What, pray tell, is the slowest and most painless way to taper off this notorious medication ?

 

[deficiT]

I have been on effexor before, and simply tapering off of it seemed to be the way to go. Not sure if it's in capsules or you have tablets, but you should probably just talk with your doctor about it and they'll proceed on the best way forward. I'd drop to 75 for a week or two, drop to 37.5 for a week or two, and then you should be able to drop to taking 37.5 every other day for a week or two, and just stop from there. That would likely be pretty painless, the initial drop to 75 might make you feel fuzzy for a a day or two, but shouldn't be too bad. That is likely the most painless way to do it.

I'm moving this over to the Mental Health forum as it's better suited over there.

 

[90sdance]

I have been on effexor before, and simply tapering off of it seemed to be the way to go. Not sure if it's in capsules or you have tablets, but you should probably just talk with your doctor about it and they'll proceed on the best way forward. I'd drop to 75 for a week or two, drop to 37.5 for a week or two, and then you should be able to drop to taking 37.5 every other day for a week or two, and just stop from there. That would likely be pretty painless, the initial drop to 75 might make you feel fuzzy for a a day or two, but shouldn't be too bad. That is likely the most painless way to do it.

I'm moving this over to the Mental Health forum as it's better suited over there.

Friend,

Allot of people say this is the hardest drug ever to stop taking (i wish they had told me that and i wouldnt have even started). Some have even said its on par with heroin to get off. I have been told that the doctors all tell you to come off in a way that is MUCH to fast and that a longer taper is required. I am also asking here for information regarding other drugs and supplements that i can use to offset/negate the NOTORIOUS side effects

Many thanks

 

[deficiT]

Friend,

Allot of people say this is the hardest drug ever to stop taking (i wish they had told me that and i wouldnt have even started). Some have even said its on par with heroin to get off. I have been told that the doctors all tell you to come off in a way that is MUCH to fast and that a longer taper is required. I am also asking here for information regarding other drugs and supplements that i can use to offset/negate the NOTORIOUS side effects

Many thanks

I understand your fear. I felt the same way about it, but let me assure you that, at least in my personal experience, this is far easier to come off than heroin. The taper I suggested should take about 1-2 months, which imo should be fine. But it also depends how long you've been taking it. How long have you been on it?

 

[deficiT]

Also, as far as supplements go, I recommend getting some L-Tryptophan this will help you stabilize your serotonin levels without making them dangerously high or having any weird interactions like 5-HTP

 

[deficiT]

And if it makes you particularly nauseous, get some ginger. It really depends on what side effects present worst to you. Some ashwaghanda and melatonin should help with any insomnia.

 

[abdnlad]

I have on venlafaxine XR 150mg twice now, because I can't take any other meds. I found no symptoms coming off other than strange head ache that did not last, paracetamol and lots of water, nothing like the blues you get from E, and you will have experienced that.
I found they did not work and wanted off them but in reality I think they did help. I went to my GP and without questions I was tapered off which I find was wrong.
My only question is you are on these meds for a reason why you want to come off without doctors help?
Please talk to your doctor first

 

[90sdance]

And if it makes you particularly nauseous, get s

I understand your fear. I felt the same way about it, but let me assure you that, at least in my personal experience, this is far easier to come off than heroin. The taper I suggested should take about 1-2 months, which imo should be fine. But it also depends how long you've been taking it. How long have you been on it?

I dont even know man, prob five or six years at this point (which has just made me think...its like this drug makes time go faster, fuck). One or two months sounds way too fast, people are saying it takes years and those who do what you are suggesting end up in a bad way. This is exactly why i am asking and what i want to avoid, i want recomendations of the slowest taper possible and for serious compounds that will nuke the everliving fuck out of the side effects. Seriously i can see panic attacks and psycosis if this is not handelled slowly and with a truckload of high end weaponry to murder side effects before they can even move. Also please dont say ''but you just go through the bad stuff'', yes - this is what people elsewhere would say, the reason im asking here is because you have the hacks, the knowledge, the firepower and the pinash to know that the laws of nature can be bent if not averted with enough raw willpower. Yes, i COULD go through the sewer (im capable of it) but id rather not, im not trying to prove anything here. So how do i avoid the unavoidable ? how do i cheat death ? I know this is the place with the answers.

As for talking to the Doc, i intend to - except i dont think she knows enough about this paticular drug and will therefore prescribe the disasterous plan that everyone else says is ruining their lives. It was prescribed to me by a specialist who knows his shit and would know how to taper me down and deal with the side effects, but i dont have the money to spend on an appointment with that guy atm.

 

[deficiT]

I dont even know man, prob five or six years at this point (which has just made me think...its like this drug makes time go faster, fuck). One or two months sounds way too fast, people are saying it takes years and those who do what you are suggesting end up in a bad way. This is exactly why i am asking and what i want to avoid, i want recomendations of the slowest taper possible and for serious compounds that will nuke the everliving fuck out of the side effects. Seriously i can see panic attacks and psycosis if this is not handelled slowly and with a truckload of high end weaponry to murder side effects before they can even move. Also please dont say ''but you just go through the bad stuff'', yes - this is what people elsewhere would say, the reason im asking here is because you have the hacks, the knowledge, the firepower and the pinash to know that the laws of nature can be bent if not averted with enough raw willpower. Yes, i COULD go through the sewer (im capable of it) but id rather not, im not trying to prove anything here. So how do i avoid the unavoidable ? how do i cheat death ? I know this is the place with the answers.

As for talking to the Doc, i intend to - except i dont think she knows enough about this paticular drug and will therefore prescribe the disasterous plan that everyone else says is ruining their lives. It was prescribed to me by a specialist who knows his shit and would know how to taper me down and deal with the side effects, but i dont have the money to spend on an appointment with that guy atm.

Well if you've been on it five or six years then maybe that's a different story. If you really feel you need to get off of the medicine you will likely have to work with a doctor anyway who will advise the best taper possible likely. I can only speak from experience, but it wasn't as bad as you are expressing you expect it to be for me.

 

[90sdance]

Well if you've been on it five or six years then maybe that's a different story. If you really feel you need to get off of the medicine you will likely have to work with a doctor anyway who will advise the best taper possible likely. I can only speak from experience, but it wasn't as bad as you are expressing you expect it to be for me.

Yea, i just dont see this doctor giving a slow enough taper. I mean she will if i ask for it, but that means she wont know the actual protocol for slower tapers that have been developed by non establishment societies of users (who i will continue to investigate). Again the main dude who prescribed them would know, but again, a specialist and i dont have the cash atm. He would do something like what im considering ie. use other stuff for a smooth and seamless landing.

Heres what im thinking to help mitigate the side effects anyway, CBD, L-theanine, L-tryptophan, GABA, Selank (mostly to deal with the anxiety and nuke any incoming panic attacks). Then for the mood drop what ? what lifts the mood without interfering too much with serotonin ? something that hits dopamine but not too hard ? (benzos are out, cant get them over the counter and im not breaking the law nowadays). Something thatl lift the mood without upping anxiety ? Would the supposed increase in sert/dopamine from biophotomodulation/crystal patches cause problems at all ?

Do any of the things i mentioned interact with eachother or venlafaxine ?

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

There's really no easy way to come off of a psych med after several years of use. I think that a slow taper is your friend, though that might seem obvious. Mind if I ask why you want to discontinue it? Is it still working for you?

 

[Nas47]

Hi all,

Have not posted here in years, but i may be back as i have questions and some thoughts to share. Anyway, i am currently on venlafaxine XR 150mg (brand name Effexor XR) for depression and anxiety. I have not touched any other drugs since i was prescribed it some years ago (my drug of choice was MDMA which i stopped taking as the adulterated substances, some seemingly fooling test kits, became too dangerous). In any case, i would like discontinue the venlafaxine with the absolute least amount of negative side effects possible. So this is why i come to YOU, i hope that here, among the scientists, the alchemists, the chemical connoisseurs and the space cadets, that you could conjure up for me some manner of magic to fight back against what some claim are the inevitable throws of discontinuation (no matter how gradual). What, pray tell, is the slowest and most painless way to taper off this notorious medication ?

Maaan...as i know venlafaxin iss bitch.snri.difficult to quitt.never tried.i failed two times on zoloft...venlafaxin is harder.tapper.have no other suggestion.goodluckman.patient

 

[90sdance]

There's really no easy way to come off of a psych med after several years of use. I think that a slow taper is your friend, though that might seem obvious. Mind if I ask why you want to discontinue it? Is it still working for you?

i dont feel that much different tbh. i used to get bad morning depression, thats eased up. other than that i just dont think its worth it. This latest covid thing really got me thinking, they could stop your medication any time and then you would really be screwed. I dont like being dependent on any drug. I mean system went haywire during that whole fake epidemic, people where being threatened that if they didnt take this experimental MRNA modulator that they would be thrown off lists for surgery and soforth. So you tell me, how reliable is a system that does that ? Then consider how many doctors and nurses where streight up lying through their teeth to patients about those vaccines. How can you trust these people ? I want to be as indo of the health system as possible tbh. There is no telling what kind of calamity will beset us next and i do not want to be relying on that institution or those people.