My cat is currently rolling around in the sun on the back lawn, without a care in the world
it could also be running in the wild with other cats
I did let my cats roam for awhile - one was hit by a car
the french author boris vian wrote a book called "l'arrache coeur" in which he pictures a women who's so scared that her children would get hurt in the real world that she keeps them in a cage all their life.
how come you don't apply your logic to all other beings you love?
how come you don't lock up your friends or your kid (from the avatar i guess you have one) so they'll never get hurt.
i just saw the movie "i, robot" yesterday. pretty much the same reasoning : you might be a danger to yourself so i prevent you from acting freely.
accidents arrive and it's a good thing to try to prevent them... but to a certain extent.
and the prevention shouldn't be more harmful than the risk itself
being hit by a car is the exception, not the rule
your cat was hit by a car because you left it out in an area with cars
wild cats don't really run after cars you know
humans can't domesticate animals that were rather safe in the wilderness and then use the argument that it's not safe anymore around humans and cars to keep them inside.
2 wrongs don't make one right
and one was captured in a trap by a crazy old woman and left to starve
and this is domestication for you!
for 1 person who respects his animals and tries to treat them good (even when i disagree whether ti's good or not), you have probably 2 or 3 who mistreat them
and it's the logical consequence of the general attitude towards animals
if people think they can own them, eat them, wear them, experiment on them, they stop thinking about them as sentient being but as objects they can treat as they wish
But feeding a child processed vitamins instead of just giving them an egg for breakfast is awful
way to dramatize things!
how about "injecting vitamin supplements instead of just giving an egg" to make it appear even worse?
what do you believe?
that a vegan child diet just consists of supplement pills?
you're only fooling yourself. a vegan diet is way more appealing to me than an omnivorous one even by color, smell, consistence and taste
a vegan child diet will be as colourful with just a few supplement pills
why not just an egg?
why not just an ovary coming out of the butt of a hen?
because that seems more awful to me than fruits and vegetables.
Some children raised as vegans experience great amounts of B-12 deficiencies - even when supplements are used
i liked the heroin in those pills, but there was cross tolerance with the lsd that's stuck in my spine
Why would you even expose your child to that kind of risk?
because the risk is in your head
the first link you gave mentioned 2 cases of B12 deficiency.
obviously some people don't do thing right. (especially in the case of crazy/mystic/whatever parents who follow a religious diet (maybe not the case here))
this mother probably didn't inquire enough about the supplements that were needed (which is not much, really)
the second one was breastfed by "a mother who ate a vegetarian diet with reportedly very little meat, fish, or dairy products"
there is not much about veganism here then
plus if you've read anything serious about B12, you'll know for sure that the amount needed is so small that about any amount of B12 containing animal product is enough
ok, so that's 2 cases in a population of thousands, congratulations my.webmd.com
the second link gives one example and doesn't say if the child was fed any supplements
plus anyone in his right mind knows that a diet called Hallelujah Diet can't be good
ok, so that's 1 case in a population of thousands, congratulations chetday.com
how many omnivorous mothers have to go to the doctor because the child had problems that turned out to be related to his diet?
a loooot too
why blame the few vegan cases and not the many omnivorous ones?
the last mentions "40 cases described in medical literature"
well, without B12 supplements, i'm surprised it's not a lot more
from this last link, i believe the followings are false (even though some are rather on the vegan side):
" Often people who switch to a vegan or vegetarian diet as adults have enough of the vitamin to last years, as many as 20."
- cool, it's growing every year. it used to only be up to 5 years
can't stop the progress!
" There are eight amino acids the human body does not produce but which it needs to stay healthy. Animal proteins contain all eight, and in the right proportions, but vegetable proteins contain only five to six and not always in the right quantities"
- this is just
plain bullshit
" The only source of the vitamin in a non-animal protein diet was mushrooms."
- i've never heard that before
i'm pretty sure if it was true it would have been mentioned/used on sites such as the vegan society's one
on the other hand, B12 can be present in the dirt on the surface of vegetables that haven't been washed yet (not applicable to those you get in stores of course)
" I certainly see a lot of vegans or even vegetarians who are not eating enough protein"
- please show me vegetarians with protein deficiency
please, please, oh please
i want to see one
it'd be like the holy grail to me, i've been promised so many
bullshit
the average american omnivore eats 4 times as much protein as he needs, that is a truth
fucking protein deficiency is the stupidest myth of all
at least there is a real problem with B12, stop bullshitting about protein
so in those links there's only 2 cases where it's sure that the child was given B12 supplements
and we don't know if the rest of their diet had any logic
if you eat only rice you'll be sick
if you eat only meat you'll be sick
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