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Variety in San Pedro Alkaloidal Content

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DroneLore

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I have a question about choosing the right SP specimens. Are there varities of SP that have negligible alkaloid content? Would "tips" that are often used as a source for growing a new cactus by potting them be sufficient for other uses? There is a huge difference in the price of san pedro that depends on how the cactus is marketed. How likely is it that this price difference actually reflects alkaloid content and is not just the seller taking advantage of a more zealous market?

I am forced to choose between getting multiple pounds of the tips from a generic seller, or 3 cactii for twice the price from a ethnobotanical vendor. I think the latter might just be asking more because they know their customers are looking to use the cactus for entheogenic purposes and as such will be willing to pay more?
 
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Tips are fresh growth and have experienced the least amount of stress over it's relative lifetime. So regardless if the Pedro is more or less potent to begin with, the tips are likely to be less potent than old, weathered growth.
 
The younger the cacti the less mescaline it has in it - although san pedro isn't as bad in this regard as peyote.

Obviously if you can get 3-5 year old san pedro off a general seller you'll get a better price.
 
Trichocereus species distinctions are pretty much a clusterfuck, and there is a lot of potency variation among different clones in a given 'species'. That said, the T. bridgesii types seem to be the most consistently desirable out of what's commercially available.
 
But with a quantity of 5+ lbs (fresh), there has to be enough alkaloid to be worthwhile....right?

Or would it be smarter to get 4 12" bridgesii cuttings?
 
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I heard there is a SP that is commonly grown for landscaping. Is this true? and if so, couldnt you technically grow a ton of it on a plot of land and then cultivate it every so many months? _ this is what I'd think is the most cost effective way to get your hands on it, since there is no middle-man, and no worries about weight and such. Didnt get enough for your night? Go grab some more from the garden lol
 
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But with a quantity of 5+ lbs (fresh), there has to be enough alkaloid to be worthwhile....right?
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Dunno - the mescaline content of young cacti is neglible. I imagine you could eat them forever and not trip.

Are you planning on eating 5lbs of cactus?
 
No, a friend plans on reducing it to the fundamental matter that is desired.

Can someone estimate how much a 12" cutting of T. Bridgesii will weigh?
 
I've read that cacti harvested in drought conditions is peak potency. The more water present, the lower the mescaline content. IIRC the idea is that the cacti produces penethylamine alkaloids which are used to build growth and when there is moisture present it is metabolized into green matter.
 
i've read others, somewhere on this board, suggest fresh cactus; i think this is a good idea

grow a ton of it on a plot of land and then cultivate it every so many months
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that's quite a good idea actually, you could buy like 50 seeds, and as long as they are the right kind of seeds, in a few years you could really have alot of mescaline on your hands....!
 
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