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Vaporizing Methoxetamine

syntheticbreakfast

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Hi Bluelight!
This is my first post, and I'd like to discuss the vaporization of methoxetamine, as I cannot find much information on it, and I have my own experiences to share. Searching "vaporizing methoxetamine," etc, doesn't really lead you anywhere. Some reports of vaping methoxetamine are as such:
"It's more cold and impersonal"
"It works, but it requires much more material"
"The taste plays a major role in the experience, and can ruin it"

My experiences vaping MXE differ very much from these reports. I vape MXE using a VaporGenie (highly recommended, by the way) and the following method: I place a small layer of cannabis over the screen of my VG, just enough to cover it nicely. Next, I sprinkle a "very small" amount of the powder on top. Unfortunately, I do not yet own a mg scale, and therefore have no comment on efficiency other than it not seeming inefficient to me. When vaped, the powder melts into the herbs at first, making them a bit crusty and difficult to stir. Then it vapes, and the mix becomes stir-able once again. The taste, as noted by other Bluelighters, is not very enjoyable. However, I did not find it to play a major role in the experience; it quickly faded into insignificance. The cannabis definitely helps though. I use water filtration through the "mouth-bong" technique (since I'm using a VG, this is my only option for water filtration), and as such I am able to hold every single hit until there is nothing to exhale, the same way I vape cannabis.

The effects are immediate, and for the best experience, the trick is to take as many large hits as possible, holding them in for as long as possible, as fast as possible. This vaporization of MXE results in the most euphoric rush I've ever experienced (I can't say that I've experienced many euphoric rushes, as I've never IMed or IVed anything, but I can't imagine feeling better than vaped MXE makes me feel). The effects of vaped MXE are more euphoric and less psychedelic when compared with rectal administration and insufflation. The warm, opiate-like feeling is definitely there, and so is the anesthesia.

My throat is the first to go numb, followed by my mouth, my nose, my face, my hands and feet, and then arms and legs as the pleasant feeling spreads throughout my body. If I vape enough (or vape quickly), there is a euphoric, amazing body body high I can only describe as feeling like "glowing, good-feeling tubes in my limbs." Pregabalin and increasing the amount of cannabis in the bowl seems to intensify this effect.

The experience of vaping methoxetamine lacks the sensation of "sinking down into a hole," which is how I feel when dosing rectally. Indeed, I feel as if I am floating up rather than sinking down. The visual effects are lacking a bit as well, although I didn't experience visuals dosing rectally or insufflating (although I didn't dose very high with those methods). As far as therapeutic and mental effects go, my experience is that vaporization is just as effective as other methods for both a long-lasting antidepressant (afterglow?) effect, and the experience of seeing your life from another perspective, something commonly sought-after with psychedelics and dissociatives.

When vaping methoxetamine, my mind becomes very clear, and the insights come one after another. To get the most benefit from this, I attempt to write down all the ideas and valuable thoughts that come into my mind. I find this a much harder task when sinking down towards the m-hole. It's true that my handwriting is slightly more difficult to read when written in this state, but I can still read the majority of words without too many problems. After the rush starts to fade, the effects last for two to four hours or perhaps even more as they taper off. The effects stay the same for the most part, they are simply less intense for the remainder of the experience.

I have only had one scary/un-enjoyable experience vaping MXE. I was already too high, dosed too much weed, too much MXE, or both, and freaked out. My heart was beating very quickly and it scared me quite a bit. I phoned somebody to come over to check on me, and calmed down with their help. After that part, I felt like I was in heaven. Taking deep breaths helps very much when freaking out, I strongly recommend it.

Due to the scary/overstimulating experience noted above, it does not make sense in my mind to attempt an m-hole through this ROA. In fact, the experience itself is so different from other ROAs that it's almost like a different drug. Besides, the insights are just as valuable (or more) to me than the insights and thoughts I get with other ROAs, making them seem rather pointless.

This method, as you've probably determined from my descriptions, begs to be re-dosed. I re-dosed many many times, at one point vaping it every day for four or five days. Some days I would just wake up and dose, not caring about anything else. On those days I would re-dose every time I came down, all day long. It can be difficult to resist. I realized that I was abusing this and had to give someone my MXE and vape and tell them to not give it back to me until a certain date. This solved the problem. However, when I stopped using, some things were a bit different for a while. For example, my first day without vaping methoxetamine after my four/five day binge, I had sudden bouts of laughter at simple things. I laughed so hard that I had difficulty standing up, similar to some of my first cannabis experiences. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it's not normal for me. These effects went away, and the only remaining effect is a spaced-out looking field of perception, although this could be attributed to other substances or lack of sleep.

From now on, I plan to only use MXE once every two weeks, just to be safe. In addition, it is not likely that I'll use other methods than vaporization very often at all. Vaporization simply blew me away. I speculate that the reason my vaporization of MXE was so successful was both my technique (holding hits in for a very long time), and the VG (which seems perfect for vaping powders, as long as they're on top of a layer of some kind of plant matter). I did not try vaping it with a non-active kind of plant matter, although I plan to attempt this the next time I dose. I do have a very high cannabis tolerance, however.

If you're going to try vaping methoxetamine, I strongly recommend starting with just a sprinkling of powder, vaping hits in quick succession and holding them in for as long as you can. Use the re-breathing tek if you have to.

I'd be very interested to hear about other people's experiences vaporizing this compound, and also your thoughts on my experiences. Thanks!
 
They synergy with cannabis also plays a large role i'm sure, as MXE & cannabis is much more strange than MXE alone. In my experience anyway. I'd read some reports that speculated this could be caustic or otherwise bad to do, hence i haven't done it myself. Also, what size doses were you using?
 
I agree, the combination with cannabis definitely increases the effects, although the main effects of this are definitely from the MXE, unless combining the two can somehow create effects you cannot experience with just one or the other.

Your statement that it could be caustic or otherwise bad to do is a bit worrisome to me, can anyone provide any concrete information on this? I vaped MXE in what I would call an "excessive" fashion, and I haven't noticed any negative symptoms resulting from this as of yet, although I suppose they could be very subtle.

As I said in my original post, unfortunately I do not own a mg scale. So I started low, and kept adding more until I reached the desired effect, then stopped. I only vaped "too much" once, had a bit of a panic attack, and phoned a friend who came over and calmed me down.
 
well i doubt there will be anything definitive on MXE's toxicology for some time. I believe i just read that in the B&D methoxetamine thread somewhere a few weeks ago, can't find the post off-hand though. Believe the author said it was painful & resulted in a slight taste of blood in his throat.... enough to put me off attempting it, lol.

And, in my experience, the combo with cannabis was different from either of the two alone, although obviously more like methoxetamine. I did not experience the same potentiation with synthetic cannabinoids, which i found odd, but interesting.

Lastly, seriously get a mg scale. They're much cheaper than a vapor genie & aside from being safer it also makes the info you post here worth more to others. "I vaped 7mg" is much more useful & helpful than "I sprinkled some on a bowl." No two people's "sprinkles" will be the same amount, and i'd wager that even the same person won't be able to sprinkle the same amount twice. There's no way to know which bits of powder are more or less aerated or compressed, etc. Way too easy to screw up big time & end up in an uncomfortable situation.
 
That's true, but do you think there's any reason to believe that vaping MXE would be more toxic than any other ROA? The drug ends up in the same place no matter which ROA you choose, but could the quick build up/high initial concentration of MXE delivered through vapor be more toxic than IM injections, for example? My experience vaping MXE wasn't painful at all, although the anesthesia always came on quickly and it's possible that it prevented me from noticing the pain.

You're right about there not being any concrete facts about this, although it's still interesting to discuss the different possibilities and predict what effect MXE could or would have on a person's body. I'd be interested in hearing other people's opinions too, if anyone else has anything to say about this. I'm certainly not the most knowledgeable person in this area.

On the subject of cannabis potentiating MXE but not synthetic cannabinoids, perhaps it's the complex combination of cannabinoids present in cannabis that combine to create the potentiation effect. It is very interesting that the synthetic cannabinoids didn't have the same effect.

I agree completely about the necessity of a mg scale. Actually, there's one coming in the mail for me this week. If/when I experiment further with vaping MXE, I will definitely weigh out each dose, and record my experiences.
However, I have to say that I vaped MXE many times with the "sprinkle" method, and only had an uncomfortable experience once, which quickly became comfortable with the help of a friend and some deep breaths.

So it can be done, but it is definitely not preferred. It's reckless and irresponsible. I will be sure to use a mg scale for future doses, and I recommend anyone else do the same, just to be sure of what you're doing.
 
i'd sure like a link for a scale that is cheaper than a vapor genie that can accurately measure in the 10mg range. that puppy would be nice to have.
 
i'd sure like a link for a scale that is cheaper than a vapor genie that can accurately measure in the 10mg range. that puppy would be nice to have.

Just check out what ebay has to offer. I bought two scales, one was around $15 and other something like $20. First one was pretty much useless, other seems to be quite reliable, though I wouldn't go measuring anything under 5mg with it.
 
Ill be reporting back in about an hr about the effects of this. Im loading up my pookie now. One question tho, (i have a pookie bong) wouldnt filtering it through water kill some material since it is water soluable? the same as say meth when filtered through water?
 
Ok so i just vaped about 40mgs pretty quickly and I have found my new favorite ROA for this drug, though iv never tried rectal or iv/im. The effects hit within 10 minutes and a few sips of gatorade kills the taste 100%. I use about 10-15 mgs everyday for anti depressant qualities that have helped immensely and probably 3-4 times a week around 60-100mgs mostly snorted. I feel just as fucked up as usual so my guess is smoking it makes it a littleee stronger or perhaps the faster onset has affected my perception. def recommended this is how ill be dosing from now on.
 
Have you guys considered that some of you might have the freebase, while others most definitely will be having a salt, probably HCL.

???
 
@VandiLLisM: How did the nature of the experience and the effects compare to other ROAs for you? I was surprised to read that it came on "within ten minutes," whereas I would describe it as coming on almost instantly. Did it feel like a rush for you at first, or was the onset gradual? Also, it's unlikely that I vaped as much as 40 mg at any point; I only had a gramme, and dosed more than thirty times through vaporization. ~40 mg (of my material, at least) looks much more like a "pile" than a "sprinkle". Like a small mound. I also dosed multiple times through insufflation and plugging, and I didn't even use all of my material up.

@Transform: Are you sure you couldn't have combusted the material, resulting in the harsh irritation, blood, and lack of effects? Does anyone know if the vapor (especially from as little as 10 mg) should be invisible or not?
I was holding every single hit in until complete absorption, and never once did I experience the slightest irritation or taste of blood, even with repeated doses. My throat never even felt sore when the anesthesia wore off. Did you experience any effects at all?

@Fagott: Interesting thought. I can't recall reading about there being both a freebase and a salt form of MXE going around, does anyone have any information on this? It seems like it could explain all these differences.

Another possibility is that one or more of us didn't actually vape MXE, or perhaps vaped MXE of a lower/higher purity. I'll admit that I'm the most likely candidate for not actually having MXE, as this was my first shipment of the substance, so I have nothing to compare it to. However, my material is definitely a dissociative anesthetic, and all the effects, appearance of material, and potency match what I've read about MXE. I can't find a report of someone having vaped it and experiencing the same effects as I did though. (~60 mg dissolved very readily into a clear solution with 5 ml of water, by the way).
 
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It was definetly a rush that all hit me at once but that rush didnt happen until a few minutes after my last hit. I smoked everything up in probably 30 seconds and I had time to grind up weed n get it into a joint about to twist when the rush hit so I just packed my bong but my point being this whole process probably took about 5 minutes as I was finishing a ciggy as well before packing the bowl. It was less psyche def and different on the body, almost a different experience altogether. If I had to go out n do shit for example, I would definetly smoke it where as if im just sittin at home ill probably smash down some lines instead. 40mg was my first experience and a cpl hrs after i packed 60mgs but didnt get the same effects. Note i am semi tolerant as I use small doses daily every morning for a mood lift and recreational doses a few times a week, most recent actually being just 2 nights ago.
 
Mine was the second batch I'd had. The vapour was very quickly visible before any discolouration, I don't remember if I tried any before discolouration but it was unpleasant enough that I wouldn't try it again, even for science.
 
Last night I tried a 50mgMXE+42mgDPT plugged combo, but I also put aside a bowl of cannabis that I had filled mostly up, put 15mg MXE and 10mg jwh-122 on, then covered with a bit more weed.

I smoked it once I could figure out what was going on, and I swear having the MXE in the smoking mix added effects. My teeth and lips would go numb for a few minutes after, and the well, insanity would greatly increase for like 5 minutes after every hit, and in a different way than weed or spice would, I give this ROA at least a partial thumbs up, worth exploring.

I'll probably write a TR when I'm not dog tired, just got back from a hospital, for my friend. Wasn't that fun to spend the tail-end of probably my most intense trip yet in a hospital.
 
can anyone make a comment on the effects duration with vaporized mxe?
i think holding in the vapor for a longer time could increase the possible toxicity
 
This is great. I asked about this is the B&D MXE thread, but I guess I found my answer.
I usually prefer vaping my compounds, mainly because I don't enjoy insufflation physically, and mentally I enjoy the process of smoking/vaping.
I'm excited to test the anti-depressant and revelatory effects first-hand, as I might even offer some to a lab rat who's in a bad way.
 
Haha, well honestly, I've done a lot of meth and heroin and crack and other bad things inhaled, but I actually have not bad lungs. I can run for long periods of time at relatively fast paces. Granted, I'm not to experienced with the RCs, but I can't imagine they're worse than the bathtub chemicals.. I think it's more about taking care of yourself outside your experimentation.
Besides, it seems like the effects will be better! Haha haha.
 
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