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asecin

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In old medicinal literature, vanilla is described as an aphrodisiac and a remedy for fevers. These purported uses have never been scientifically proven, but it has been shown that vanilla does increase levels of catecholamines (including epinephrine, more commonly known as adrenaline), and as such can also be considered mildly addictive


can someone help me with this here. can any of you confirm anything ? :\
 
asecin said:
In old medicinal literature, vanilla is described as an aphrodisiac and a remedy for fevers. These purported uses have never been scientifically proven, but it has been shown that vanilla does increase levels of catecholamines (including epinephrine, more commonly known as adrenaline), and as such can also be considered mildly addictive


can someone help me with this here. can any of you confirm anything ? :\
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fresh vanilla is purportedly psychoactive, there are reports of pickers having mental issues. There are also several patents regarding the strong sedative activity of vanillin and its derivatives.
 
what do mean by fresh ? the dried beans work or the alcohol extract ?
 
i vaguely remember something about capsaicin acting on valliniod receptors.
 
onmyway said:
i vaguely remember something about capsaicin acting on valliniod receptors.
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capsaicin is an agonist at vanilloid type 1 receptor (TRPV1), which is one of the receptors responsible for sensing heat, but has nothing to do with purported psychoactive effects of vanillia
 
Black said:
capsaicin is an agonist at vanilloid type 1 receptor (TRPV1), which is one of the receptors responsible for sensing heat, but has nothing to do with purported psychoactive effects of vanillia
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lol thats funny.
 
anyway i see nobody has any experience with this to report back. :/
 
boohigh said:
it is an aldehyde and MDMA can be made from it.
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Oh, yeah, make a ring from the hydroxy and methoxy and you've got pipironal, then proceed shulgin-style. God, what a bitch compared to the safrole route!

An RC supplier selling it at RC prices would be making a mint. The stuff is used on a huge scale industrially, and as such would be absolutely dirt shit cheap in quantity. Are people really willing to take an extra step (closing the ring, which i'm not sure how to do off the top of my head), and pay out the nose for a precursor they could buy for cheap, when there are several much better ones?
 
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So 3-methoxy-4methylamphetamine can be made more easily, which was discussed here.
 
3-methoxy-4-methylamphetamine cannot be made from vanillin (4-hydroxy-3-methoxybenzaldehyde), but MDA, MDMA, MDE, mescaline, TMA, lophophine, and MMDA can be.
 
Rectify said:
3-methoxy-4-methylamphetamine cannot be made from vanillin (4-hydroxy-3-methoxybenzaldehyde), but MDA, MDMA, MDE, mescaline, TMA, lophophine, and MMDA can be.
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I do remember seeing a synthesis for 3-MeO-4-Me-AMP from vanillin. I'm sure someone else can comment on this.
 
It may very well be possible, but I just don't know how to. I do know there's a synthesis on Rhodium's archive of 5-methyl-MDA from vanillin.
 
yeh im surpised how you guys kept arguing over stupid n00b chemistry shit instead of actually trying to see what vanilla does to you and report back. not like you experiment with something dangerious so i cant see why you are all being scared. :(
 
lol i just browsed this part of the forum now and found this really old thread i made.
anyway, it seems people here who have advanced chemistry knowledge to this day have not been able to answer anything about vanilla's psychoactive abilities. considering, its easy to obtain, legal and has no notable dangerous side effects to do few experiments on yourself even.
 
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