Valium lowers effects of DHC on me

[What was it?]

Today I mixed 5mg with 200mg of DHC and 60mg of codeine for the first time. I feel less high than usual and the codeine/DHC dose is a tad higher than usual.

Is it because of the valium? Has anybody experienced this? I was thinking maybe the valium reduced my anxiety about stupid issues such as OD or repisratory issues so overall the high comes over as less harmless....my thoughts anyway.

Or perhaps my tolerance is just increasing.

Any suggestions?

Also in the name of harm reduction....can diazepam reduce a user's perception of the risk of the level of opiate highness?

 

[What was it?]

i really am not feeling high....this is soooooo weird.

 

[Nib]

If anything it would enhance the effects. Probably tolerance.

Though i guess high enough benzo doses could take away from the opiate high a little if you feel the benzo more.

 

[novemberain]

I dont like mixing my benzos with opiates for this exact reason. I feel like it takes away from the opiate high although everyone I know says its potentiates their high. Im just a freak I guess. Only take benzos to sleep at night and I do not enjoy the way they feel at all.

 

[DexterMeth]

Benzos don't potentiate a narcotic high, they just further depress the CNS. To OP, I can't give you a solid answer on this (though I'm sure I've heard it a thousand times), but maybe take less valium next time.

 

[Deleted member 137730]

opiates cause euphoria by disinhibiting the gaba neurons (gaba keeps dopamine in check) which then causes a certain population of neurons in the ventral tegmental area of the reward center to fire more intensely causing the euphoria unique to opiates.

Benzodiazepines would counter this action directly and result in LESS euphoria due to less disinhibition of gaba in the VTA.

Although benzos would increase a nod and sedation which many people like and sometimes mistake as the high itself. Mixing benzos with opiates is pretty much an idiot move IMO as you cant take as much opiate not to mention the reason I already mentioned.


This is why plain and simple.

 

[What was it?]

opiates cause euphoria by disinhibiting the gaba neurons (gaba keeps dopamine in check) which then causes a certain population of neurons in the ventral tegmental area of the reward center to fire more intensely causing the euphoria unique to opiates.

Benzodiazepines would counter this action directly and result in LESS euphoria due to less disinhibition of gaba in the VTA.

Although benzos would increase a nod and sedation which many people like and sometimes mistake as the high itself. Mixing benzos with opiates is pretty much an idiot move IMO as you cant take as much opiate not to mention the reason I already mentioned.


This is why plain and simple.

good info - this explains things. thanks.

 

[benzofan]

opiates cause euphoria by disinhibiting the gaba neurons (gaba keeps dopamine in check) which then causes a certain population of neurons in the ventral tegmental area of the reward center to fire more intensely causing the euphoria unique to opiates.

Benzodiazepines would counter this action directly and result in LESS euphoria due to less disinhibition of gaba in the VTA.

Although benzos would increase a nod and sedation which many people like and sometimes mistake as the high itself. Mixing benzos with opiates is pretty much an idiot move IMO as you cant take as much opiate not to mention the reason I already mentioned.


This is why plain and simple.

GREAT !! so much IDIOTS think that benzo potentiate opiates !! stupid thing !

THANKS for this accurate answer

 

[Mr Blonde]

Opioids actually inhibit GABA related neurotransmission.

I find that if I take the benzo BEFORE the opioid, it can ruin it and I don't feel it as well.

But taking it after or at the same time, and not dosing too high with the benzo... it's nice.