Opioids Using Xanax and Oxy on alternate days to avoid oxy withdrawal? AKA I fucked up

[Oxy8_8]

Please no lectures. I usually take enjoy 250-300mg of oxy (either OCs or "roxys") the first day or two I get it, then try and manage to get enough to take 200mg a day but sometimes have to take 150mg or so for a couple days.

I have no idea how it happened but I've took 1200mg in the last 2 days. I got 460mg left and I got 1030mg Oxy and 50mg Xanax coming on Monday.
That's it for 15 or 16 days. So basically I got half the Oxy I need. I can tolerate 150mg a day, especially with 3 or 4 doses of Xanax.

Even then I got 10 days max. Could I have JUST Xanax some days and not get any opiate withdrawal?
Or should I make one of those cash loans for like £200 and I can pay back the £240 or whatever in 12 days.

Please help. I've never just lost control like that.

If I can't get by on just xanax some days my options are 1) borrowing like I said or 2) coming up with some sob story for my doctor.

 

[BigDiggerNick]

Have you tried kratom for the oxy? That can be bought online and gives an opiate like affect. Also otc lopermide (Immodium A.D) works wonders for withdrawals for some people. As for the xanax, it does help opiate withdrawals, but it is also very addictive as well. If you find yourself addicted to xanax, alcohol (not too much) should help with the xanax WD.

If I were you I would stick with the lopermide and the kratom before I treat the WD with another very addictive drug.

Oh and some people have reported opiate like affects with lopermide. Apparently taking it with grape fruit juice or tagemet, has gotten people high. The downside is that you have to consume a lot like 46 2mg pills. It will probably make you very constipated, but it will help with the shits.

 

[twato]

The Xanax will help a little, but definitely won't be enough for the WD symptoms from your (pretty hefty) monthly/daily dose.

Of course you could score cheaper opiates, if you know a reliable oxy supplier I assume that'd be a possibility, especially methadone should be very affordable and with its long half-life it should last you long enough, a day at least, maybe even two. I won't mention the other obvious easy option.

Subutex is great and cheap as well, the only downside being that you have to let the first medium symptoms hit before dosing for the first time, you don't want precipated WDs at all (but no need to wait for the recommended full 24h). Also, at least I always need one day to adjust myself to not being high, but thats mostly a motivation issue that's managable if absoluty unavoidable.
On the plus side, if you switch to subs, you'll need 8mgs a day at least, the amount that starts preventing opioids with lesser affinity from working. Think of all the oxy you could save or sell :D

Large amounts of loperamide (Immodium is most popular, just buy the generics) will also elimate your WD symptoms, I recommend starting at 40mg (yes, that's 20 pills, just compare the amount with other opiate dosages directly in mg, makes it sound far less silly), remember it takes 2-3 hours to fully kick in, and then redose as necessary. Read the respective Mega Thread on here, this really works when in a bind, also happens to be long lasting (24h+) and completely legal.
Edit: It also won't clog you up worse than any other opiate if you're tolerant, I had zero issues taking daily 80mg doses for a week.

Combined with alprazolam, you'll propably feel completely fine.

The Xanax (alprazolam) on its own won't do shit though, maybe help with sleeping a bit, but nothing more. Get something else, it sounds like you can't simply take a week off work and just WD with the usual remedies or like you really need pain meds. If that's not the case, I'd just admit my fuckup to myself and use the Xanax for sweating it out. Gotta pay the piper.

Oh, and say nothing to your doc. Likely he'd just cut you off completely and label you as a drug seeker to cover his own ass, and everything that goes on record can be used against you some time.

 

[dopemaster]

Benzos will pad the crash and I recommend them for it, but nothing short of opiates, antagonists, or time will stop wd's altogether.

Isnt codeine OTC in UK? You could CWE to get a bit of something to soften the blow as codeine is an opiate.

Oxy tolerance goes up quick and the sky is the limit in terms of tolerance as there is no ceiling. I myself find myself how I manage to do 600 mgs in a day when I completely meant to spread it over 3 days.

Subs are good if you want a break but u need to be in wds. Lope helps some people but Im a bit weary of taking a lot of something that makes you not poo.

 

[twato]

Benzos will pad the crash and I recommend them for it, but nothing short of opiates, antagonists, or time will stop wd's altogether.

Isnt codeine OTC in UK? You could CWE to get a bit of something to soften the blow as codeine is an opiate.

Oxy tolerance goes up quick and the sky is the limit in terms of tolerance as there is no ceiling. I myself find myself how I manage to do 600 mgs in a day when I completely meant to spread it over 3 days.

Subs are good if you want a break but u need to be in wds. Lope helps some people but Im a bit weary of taking a lot of something that makes you not poo.

Of course, codeine! Lucky tommies, getting that OTC! I completely agree, it'll cushion things a bit, but will likely be much too weak for oxy WDs. Akso, cold water extraction is lenghty for the huge amount OP would need due to the short half-life and low ceiling dose. At least with lope, there's always laxatives.

 

[Lightning-Nl]

One word - Loperamide.

Loperamide is an analogue of Fentanyl, but it doesn't cross the blood brain barrier. The little bit that does, appears to be pumped out immediately. Loperamide is sold Over-The-Counter as a diarrhea stopper. However, Loperamide - just like any other pain relieving opiate - is an honest-to-god μ-opioid receptor agonist. Therefore, it will stop 98% of your withdrawal symptoms.

I've read many threads about people using Loperamide to combat there withdrawals, and addiction to Loperamide (as long as it doesn't cross blood brain-barrier) is almost non existent.

You may read ways of getting Loperamide to cross the blood brain-barrier, but please - I IMPLORE YOU! DO NOT DO IT! I made the mistake of doing that. Once Loperamide crosses blood-brain, it is more addictive than anything. People have said that Loperamide withdrawals are on-par or infact even worse than Methadone withdrawals.

View these two threads for more information.

OTC Loperamide for withdrawals - Amazing!
So...I'm withdrawing from Loperamide...

 

[Oxy8_8]

Have you tried kratom for the oxy? That can be bought online and gives an opiate like affect. Also otc lopermide (Immodium A.D) works wonders for withdrawals for some people. As for the xanax, it does help opiate withdrawals, but it is also very addictive as well. If you find yourself addicted to xanax, alcohol (not too much) should help with the xanax WD.

If I were you I would stick with the lopermide and the kratom before I treat the WD with another very addictive drug.

Oh and some people have reported opiate like affects with lopermide. Apparently taking it with grape fruit juice or tagemet, has gotten people high. The downside is that you have to consume a lot like 46 2mg pills. It will probably make you very constipated, but it will help with the shits.

Does Kratom give opiate-like effects and stop WDs? Is it legal? (I'n not sourcing! But I don't wanna waste time searching amazon/online/healthfood stores if it's illegal.

 

[hoe]

Kratom is legal in most places, You can even buy it in the head shops here, but it's far cheaper to get online and the quality is much better. Yes it will stop WD's. If you are not opiate naive I doubt you'll get much opiate like effects IMO, but everyone is different, I'd compare it to maybe taking a low dose of Hydrocodone. I personally don't get much of a buzz from it, but it has saved me from withdrawals many times in the past. My bf uses it now for getting off oxy (personally I haven't touched hard opiates in years). For some people it helps it seems like, others just trade the addiction, as Kratom is addictive.

 

[Lightning-Nl]

Lack of studies to determine Kratom's mechanism of action have been done. Therefore, we cannot say for certain if it actually IS an opiate. However, Yes - it gives opiate effects and will stop and/or majorly deter withdrawals. Kratom, however, probably has addictive potential relative to any other opiate.

That's why I recommended Loperamide. You won't have to wait for the Kratom to come in the mail, and, Loperamide is sold everywhere.

 

[BigDiggerNick]

Yes, kratom is legal, and feels like an opiate. Just go on google and search for it. I would give you a good website but that's against the rules.

 

[GodSpeedK]

All I know is that benzo withdrawals is even worse than opiate withdrawals. So I really doubt xanax is a good remedy for opiate withdrawals in the long-run. Use them sparingly when symptoms really are too intense. Otherwise, abstain as much as you can, to avoid risk of benzo dependence developing.

 

[dopemaster]

Kratom doesn't do shit for me. It does wonders for others. I think the first few times I took it I got some relief.

Maybe Ill give it a go after I pull more clean time.

Lope is ok but I don't want to take that much of an anti-diarrhea medicine personally.

Id CWE codeine if I was sick and could just buy it in the store. Id probly be buying that stuff everyday if it was cheap and legal here. Its better than nothing.

Lope stops the shits for me. Id personally go with the codeine.

 

[mrflowers00]

you're gonna be sick... sorry