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Heroin Using Hard Drugs Without Addiction?

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madGardner

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I think that the recreational use of heroin and methamphetamines can be achieved without getting an addiction as well. I plan to use myself as the example. I snorted meth for the first time a month and a half ago. It was a different high than I expected, the high improved my functions (I believe, or felt like). I week after I bought a small sack of heroin, I smoked it on my THC wax skillet.......The high felt really good. I smoked a wax dab after and threw up. Anyways I liked so I bought another small sack and smoked half on foil half on the skillet, I got really high, but no nod experience yet. After that I took a month break and decided I' d try this stuff one weekend every month. Earlier this week I bought a medium heroin sack and a large meth sack. I smoked a bigger amount on the skillet this time and it was more potent so It gave me an extremely dank high. I smoked hash after I got put into the best nod I've ever had. I was nodding getting adio hallucinations of a nice pretty piano playing and a really nice instrument I'd never heard. I would compare that nod to great sex. That night I tried the meth also, I bought two new meth pipes for that though. I got extremely sparked and stayed up that whole night and drove a friend to work early in the morning. I smoked a lot by myself so I needed to come down and sleep. I smoked a fat hit of heroin on my skillet and that sent me to sleep.

Well I won't be doing any hard drugs for another month, and I'm honestly fine with doing heroin and meth once a month. They're fun and all, but I wouldn't want to stay up all the time, and I wouldn't want to be nodding all the time either. To me they are a nice treat reserved for mature adults who can responsibly enjoy these substances without getting caught in addiction. I have a bit of meth left but I hid it under my couch and won't pull it out till next month. And I'll just have to buy a Heroin sack. I only smoke these substances on a skillet or a glass meth pipe.

I do not condone drug use.
 
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So you started using 1 month ago, and you are already proclaiming that you will not become addicted since you will only use once a month? It's a good plan and all, and I hope you stick to it, but it's easy to rationalize using more often than that. How do you think that people become addicted. Do you think that they get high, and say "I think I will just keep doing this everyday and become heavily addicted!!!" No, we all started out by getting high once, and then telling ourselves that we would only do it once a month, or every couple of months, etc... It is very much a progressive thing, and to make avoiding addiction seem so simple is insulting to people that found themselves addicted to drugs. I don't think that any addict is going to read your post and think "why didn't I think of that? Once a month, That's the ticket!"

There are some people that have thrown the idea of the controlled use of hard drugs, and it has been discussed before. Here are some links you might want to check out.

Any successful occasional meth/heroin users?
Any occasional meth users out there?
Occasional and controlled heroin use?
 
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Of course it is possible to use drugs without getting addicted. But it works like this: the more you use them, the more addicted you get. Addiction often isn't something that happens right away, but develops over time.

I also think people are fooling themsleves by believing that using highly addictive drugs occasionally is actually in their best interests. Why is it not in most peoples best interests? Because, it's only natural to want to feel that way all the time. And thus, when you deprive yourself of that, it causes suffering and craving for the drug and that counter balances the pleasure you got from the drug. It's no fun when you want to do something but you can't. That's why people get addicted, because controlling their use ends up being no fun.
 
Tommyboy said:
So you started using 1 month ago, and you are already proclaiming that you will not become addicted since you will only use once a month? It's a good plan and all, and I hope you stick to it, but it's easy to rationalize using more often than that. How do you think that people become addicted. Do you think that they get high, and say "I think I will just keep doing this everyday and become heavily addicted!!!" No, we all started out by getting high once, and then telling ourselves that we would only do it once a month, or every couple of months, etc... It is very much a progressive thing, and to make avoiding addiction seem so simple is insulting to people that found themselves addicted to drugs. I don't think that any addict is going to read your post and think "why didn't I think of that? Once a month, That's the ticket!"

There are some people that have thrown the idea of the controlled use of hard drugs, and it has been discussed before. Here are some links you might want to check out.

Any successful occasional meth/heroin users?
Any occasional meth users out there?
Occasional and controlled heroin use?
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LOL.. My thoughts exactly. I used recreationally for quite a long time. Yet, after a while Friday was all I could think about. So I started Wednesdays too. Then it was a wrap.. Classic story Im sure :)

Be careful and good luck
 
I have never used H but have used quit a lot of other opiates, I started off doing codeine and dhc once a month and I am now addicted to morphine.

Thought I wouldnt get addicted, promised myself that I would stop when I started doing it more regular but once you get into it them thoughts dont occur any more. That is with less recreational opiates than heroin, I would imagine it would be easier to fall into addiction using heroin, with it being much more recreational than the opiates I took.


Certain people will be able to use occasionally but if you have any kind of addictive personality and a constant supply of drugs, it is almost a certainty you will become addicted at some point.
 
lolz,

Good luck with chipping. Just hope you can keep with it cause if you don't, there was really no point of chipping at all imo. Except for prolonging the time before you start using more and more, and then you have an addiction. My opiate/opioid (ox~z) addiction crept up on me before I fuckin knew it. Hopefully you do not have to big of an addictive personality. The fact that you already have plans to use once a month is a sign of a fucked up road, which leads to hell. Good luck brother.

Ng
 
This has got to be the most naive post ever..it belongs on like the DARE website.

Lol "chipping is totally possible! I started meth and heroin a month ago and i'm not addicted, i can chip! Damn responsible use isn't that hard, I can keep this up!"

Yeah talk to us in a few months. None of us got addicted instantly. You gotto be retarded to think you can use meth adn heroin recreationally on a regular basis without getting addicted. Be real... every single one of us has rationalized that recreational use is possible. Do you think we are all losers who planned to get addicted to dope and meth? No, we fell into it just like you are (except you might have a head start). WE are talkign meth and dope here not weed. You're already going downhill plannng out your future of using.. it's clear you LIKE meth and dope a lot. So you have EVERYTHING you need for a debilitating addiction.

It was a good laugh though...responsible meth use...

Also you posted links to basically identical threads.. you really think these new-age ideas you have warrant a new thread?
 
madGardner said:
To me they are a nice treat reserved for mature adults who can responsibly enjoy these substances without getting caught in addiction.
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Okay, first off, your post is anything but mature so I would feel comfortable excluding you from the 'mature adult' category.

Secondly, how do you know whether you are going to become addicted or not?

Frankly, I found your post almost laughable and as someone else mentioned it sounds like something you would find on a DARE website.

Good luck with your drug use.
 
personally i use to abuse alot of ADHD pills (lol compared to meth) and i shot up dope the other day but im not addicted to either.
 
Dear OP:

I licked the gel out of a fentanyl patch last night trying to escape horrible oxycodone withdrawals...

Wanna know exactly what started me on my path to this point?

... One little 120ml bottle of hydrocodone cough syrup ... that my doctor prescribed to me for a legitimate sore throat... Three years ago.

Don't kid yourself.
 
Can you chip? Yes.
Does chipping usually work/last? Not usually.

As someone else already mentioned, you'll start making excuses to use more and more. You'll find stupid shit to celebrate, which means you'll go use. "Oh, I got out of bed today before 4:30PM, lets celebrate and go get high!" You might laugh at that, or giggle... but that's how it goes. It's obvious you have a steady connect for both drugs, so what's going to limit your intake, besides money or will power? Just from simply reading your post, I kind of feel like you have that "it won't happen to me" attitude. & when dealing with methamphetamines AND opiates, that's a very bad thing. Don't open Pandora's box, man.

Most successful chippers that I know, don't have a steady connect. They get high, when the chance randomly presents itself.

Like; friend has surgery, only takes 2-3 pills from whole bottle, gives rest of the bottle to other guy. Guy gets high for a day or two.

From reading your post, it seems like you're almost taking this lightly. & I promise you, it's not. I'm not very familiar with m-amp, I was never really a big fan of uppers. But when it comes to opiates, I know a lot. & you need to give them the respect they deserve, and it honestly sounds like you're not. I don't know, man, I hope this makes sense to you. It makes sense in my head.

TL;DR: show both of the drugs you're using the respect they deserve, they could both leave you blue lipped.
 
Any substance can be used without causing the development of an addiction, but amphetamines and opiates are some of the most addictive drugs. Anyone can having experience with either can attest to this, I am sure. An amphetamine or opiate addiction may not include life-threatening wd's like some other drugs, but addiction to amphetamines and opiates forms very quickly and very easily. This is a generally true statement, but you, I'd say, are at even more risk of addiction due to a few factors: 1) You are smoking methamphetamine, we aren't talking an adderall to study here and there (which is still rather risky). 2) You are smoking (not taking orally) an opiate. 3) You enjoy these drugs a good deal.

The fact that you are consuming these drugs in a way that causes very fast onset of effects makes the experience of using them more pleasurable due to the "rush" esp. with the methamphetamine. You also state that you very much enjoy opiates, so you aren't one of those users who need time to understand the opiate high, sounds like you are good to go. IMO opiates are pretty much opiates, and amphetamines are pretty much amphetamines, but like I said your route of administration is really making the risks of addiction higher, as is the fact you were fond of the opiate high off the bat.

You must also be careful with OD due to unknown potency, and the amphetamines masking a possible opiate overdose. It doesn't sound like you are very educated about these drugs, or any for that matter. In my opinion I'd be more comfortable seeing a kid who knew what he was doing using than a "mature" adult without a clue.
 
Haha, already used like 5 or 6 times in the past month.

No body plans to get addicted, you are an idiot if you think that. You are already becoming addicted and you don't realize it. Could you really truly see yourself never using these drugs again? If not then your are addicted already, and once a month becomes once a week, then twice a week, then every other day, then every day, and then twice a day or more lol.

EDIT: WAIT A MINUTE!@!@!@ (nsfw because of size)
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I very very highly doubt that OP is not a troll.
 
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To the OP, how much experience do you have with opiates anyways? I'm only asking because I only see you mentioning heroin, no pharmaceuticals or anything.

& you might not be physically addicted to opiates, but it almost sounds like you're already mentally addicted to them...
 
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Meth probably isn't as physically addictive so you could probably control that habit.

Heroin? You can try!But what makes you think you've got more willpower than the rest of us?

I have tremendous willpower, I had anorexia for three years and my whole life depended on self-discipline and self-restraint. I tried heroin for the first time this summer - it was low grade stuff and when I snorted it I instantly thought "well this is overrated," but I didn't want to throw the whole bag out so I had some more the next weekend and I enjoyed it a bit more. I said I'd do it again in a few months' time and that I would only use it during school holidays. The next time I bought some (just under a month ago) it was better quality and I smoked it just to see how good it was. I bought with the intention of having the whole bag in one day instead of shitty little bits every few days. I was blown away by the effects of one little bit, but I couldn't decide whether I actually liked it or not. So I tried it the next day, just a tiny bit, and the next, and the next... Within a week, I was nauseous waking up every morning unless I had a smoke. I was smoking twice a day - in the morning before breakfast and in bed before I went to sleep. That was three weeks ago and with the remains of the bag I realised that I hadn't enough to have a proper smoke so I IV'd, didn't like it of course, IV'd again...

Now I've nothing left and I feel like shite - nausea, headaches, digestive issues and worst of all, shitty moods 24/7 and an obsession with when I'm going to get some. I'm not a full-blown addict, I haven't gone totally insane without it, but life has lost whatever sparkle it had in the first place. My friends all tried to get to me to go out with them tonight but I've lost all interest in everything that used to matter to me and everyone has just become a fucking pain in the ass. Socialising? I'd much rather stay in by myself and smoke the stains on my tin foil.

EVERYONE thinks that they can keep heroin as an occasional, recreational habit. Who in the right mind gets up one morning and decides "I want to be a heroin addict,"? Nobody, of course, but we're all arrogant enough to think that we have the willpower to overcome the temptation. If you think that the risk of becoming a heroin addict is worth the effects of the drug, you're probably already psychologically addicted. I'd advise you to stop while you can because when you can stop you don't want to, and when you want to stop, you can't...

Take care of yourself.
 
LOL yeah for real..

OP, what makes you think you have more willpower than all of the people on this board addicted to said drugs?
 
I am agreeing wiht you class-a-team (your comment "Heroin? You can try!But what makes you think you've got more willpower than the rest of us? ").

And I was LOLing at the notion of being able to use these drugs regularly without addiction.
 
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