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Cocaine Using coca leaves for stimulant euphoria

Seattle_Stranger

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Hey all! I have a few questions about coca leaves for anyone who has had positive experiences!

I have obtained 100g of what I would assume to be low-mid quality dried/ground coca leaves in tea form. I have consumed it in various forms including chewing, coca-vodka and tea. So far, I've chewed up to 5g with baking soda and all that earned me was the world's numbest mouth and perhaps a SLIGHT mood lift in the right setting but it's negligible. The numbing is cool but takes a few minutes to take effect (not near-instant like some reports I've read). I've also tried soaking leaves in vodka overnight with baking soda, up to 10g+ in a single shot w/ powdered leaf, and that just gives me dilated pupils, a weird mixture of wakefulness and fatigue at the same time, and ANXIETY 8(...which is confusing because isn't cocaethylene supposed to be more potent and euphoric (and toxic) than cocaine itself? Lastly, simple tea made with 2 bags and no baking soda gave me a similar-to-coffee wakefulness that wore off quickly.

Having said that, I've love to feel something resembling euphoria from this. I understand that coca is not = to cocaine, however cocaine isn't euphoric for me either, it too makes me anxious. I know that any effect at all from coca will be subtle, but I'm quite used to experimenting with lots of natural substances which are almost always just a subtle effect, and I enjoy many of them immensely like kratom, kava, blue lotus, etc.. I know how to look for subtle effects and how to make the most out of them, however all coca has given me outside of placebo is mild anxiety attacks and pupil dilation, nothing I'd consider close to euphoria, it's dysphoria if anything!

So, anyone with experience, is there any tried-and-true method that obtains a pleasurable effect? Even if not a full blown euphoria, just a subtle pleasurable head buzz, enjoyable stimulation, anything that is fun! For something that has been used for as long of a time, and as widespread of use across the world, for a leaf being called a gift from the Gods, I would think there's SOMETHING good about using this stuff. Again, granted I probably have lower quality leaves, they still have a strong numbing effect when chewed, induce strong anxiety and dilate my pupils, so there are certainly active alkaloids present that are producing effects....just nothing I'd consider to be fun. :(

Help anyone? Thanks!!


Next mission: Find some damn khat... :)
 
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Not available. You need three things and if you are not at high altitude they do not work as such. Lived in Cusco for a year and it rarely worked more than coffee. I would look elsewhere.
 
Get drunk prior to the use of he coca tea or whichever other administration of the leaves u wish to use. I to find cocaine alone makes me anxious but cocaine while I'm already drunk is really euphoric . Taking the vodka-coca shot at the same time doesn't produce cocaethlyene I'm pretty sure that you have to have already be drinking / drunk which is why if u do cocaine first and drink after its still nothing like drinking first then doing coke
 
Get drunk prior to the use of he coca tea or whichever other administration of the leaves u wish to use. I to find cocaine alone makes me anxious but cocaine while I'm already drunk is really euphoric . Taking the vodka-coca shot at the same time doesn't produce cocaethlyene I'm pretty sure that you have to have already be drinking / drunk which is why if u do cocaine first and drink after its still nothing like drinking first then doing coke

Interesting point!! I might have to try this. Obviously I won't make it a habit seeing how it's toxic, I simply would like to know how to get coca to work for me when I do use it. I'd rather a slightly toxic but effective drug than a perfectly safe but work against me drug.
 
So I tried having several drinks first, and then chewing. Perhaps a mild effect occurred, but nothing that ever outshines the alcohol. After taking several shots of whiskey and some beers, a friend and I chewed about ~2g each while sitting in my hottub, after a long walk, late at night. It's hard to tell if I was just having a good time with my buddies (which I usually do) or if I was getting effects from the coca, because I started to feel refreshed, awake but not stimulated, and perhaps even a little euphoric. Again though, this could easily just been me having fun chillin' in the hot tub.

Again, I understand that one will not get cocaine/amphetamine-like effects from chewing coca. I do understand this and I'm not expecting to have a mind blowing experience. However, I have a strong appreciation for subtle euphoric effects. Kratom is a great example of an herb that gives a very mild psychological effect, yet I enjoy it greatly and use it nearly every day. Coca, even with alcohol, doesn't even come remotely close to as enjoyable or useful. So far, the absolute best effects I've gotten from coca is -maybe- minor wakefulness when I felt like I should have been more tired. That's really it though.


Questions:


Does anyone else chew coca regularly? Can you describe the effects you get when you would consider it 'pleasurable'?

When I chew, my mouth gets EXTREMELY numb, I mean, more numb than it has EVER been even when taking gummies of powder cocaine. It gives that typical very strong numbness that has a distinct 'feel' or 'taste' to it, exactly the same that I get with actual cocaine. Is it safe to assume that if your mouth gets extremely numb, then you most likely have good (enough) leaves? If the leaves actually have been 'de-cocainized', will they still numb your mouth? Is your mouth gets very numb, is that a fail-safe signal that the desired alkaloids are definitely present?

Is there anything that anyone knows of that has a particularly special synergy with coca? So far my hippie speedball mix (kratom+coca) isn't all that impressive. Not bad, there's certainly a very minor effect from the coca, but again it's nothing to write home about.

I see a lot of people taking about a PH of 9 is the ideal environment to extract the alkaloids. How exactly does one go about testing the PH of my mouth? In addition to this, would there be any advantage to taking an antacid before chewing, so the stomach is basified too, so any coca that makes it down there will have a basic environment to continue working it's magic?

Curiosity, has anyone ever made a strong orally-active, full-spectrum extract?


Thanks for answers in advance!!
 
I was very interested in coca leaves as well, but theres really very little info about eating them outside of places where they actually grow, and judging from good ol wiki:
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Traditional medical uses of coca are foremost as a stimulant to overcome fatigue, hunger, and thirst. It is considered particularly effective against altitude sickness."

It just seems to me that its really useful only to overcome altitude sickness. I don't believe mood lift, nor euphoria, music appreciation and other typical cocaine effects are possible to achieve, not even from huuuge amounts of leaves.
 
I don't think there is much euphoria to be found in coca leaves, and if there is, it's only with good leaves within a certain radius of where they're grown (So. America)
 
Yeah you guys might be right.

I've simply been reading reports around the net that some people actually are getting euphoric effects from combining coca leaves and alcohol....and I'm intrigued!
 
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