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(URGENT)- My dog ate chicken bones, please advise!!!

SangerRainsford

SangerRainsford

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My dog ate 3 (UNcooked)chicken-breast bones and their meat, I'm begging for any/all advice as urgently as it can come.

Thank you very much in advance - I'm going to edit this post with more details, I'm posting this secnod to get the thread up and in view


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EDIT: It seems I've already done what is the "reco'd" procedure, so most of the urgency is handled, but would still heavily appreciate replies/suggestoins/tips
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Below this sentence are the facts of the situation, but should say that trying to encourage him to puke is almost pointless now - I'm trying to figure out ASAP if there's any "immediate" way to help this, *and* what people recommend for the next few days/week.
A vet CANNOT be seen - let's leave it at "I'm in the middle of the woods w/o a car, phone, or communication, just me and the dog"
They were uncooked bones, he's a mixed-pitt male at about 55-60lbs in weight. Has consumed 1 (cooked) chicken bone in the past under my ownership.
A vet cannot happen because: my situation does not allow so at this minute, and more importantly I can induce vomitting, or treat the bones (or palliative care til the inevitable if that's what's happened :(( ) in the same way a vet would w/o delay
Situation: Was prepping for stir-fry, had to talk with someone and, upon coming back in, found that either my dog grabbed, or the cat knocked off the counter, the 3 chicken breasts I had on the counter. All 3 gone, so ~3's worth of meat, and 3 bones (I had barely started cooking, so almost a full 3, one had half its meat removed already but doubt that matters)
What I've done: when I got inside and saw what had happened, I determined it too late (~30min) to induce vomitting*. I decided to try and help it go through based on instinct/quick wiki'ing. I gave him about 6-8g of soluble fiber (crushed psyllium husk pills) in a solution of maybe 10oz of a water : oil mix, mixed about 9:1 water:veg-oil-blend. I'm figuring this "cloud" of fiber/fat will follow the soon-to-be-stuck bones and, hopefully, coat them.

I'm finding both "puke" and "treat" options online, "puke" seems outta the question because I don't foresee my full-grown pitt *ever* puking up 3 bones' worth of meat/bone :/
I can still induce vomitting ASAP if needed, but I simply do not see it working, I see it causing damage while trying to hack it up. (He has eaten one bone before that I know of <he's adopted>, and he NEVER pooped it out, well not in the 3+weeks I monitored him after the fact..
What I plan to do: (at the moment, til I find out more) Keep him on medium fiber (to prevent constipation w/ too-high a fiber jump), administered in the same manner as earlier (a very watery, oily liquid with fiber-powder in it, that'd swell once inside of him). I don't see much need to give him protein in the coming 50hrs., will be focusing on making his stool quick/soft with water/fiber/oil mixture
 
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He cannot go to a vet at the moment - impossible unfortunately.. what would a vet do right now? I can do it myself or have it done by an acquaintance pretty immediatley if it doesn't involve a vet setup (tools/table), anything else (vomit, vits/meds/fibers/whatever can be done quickly enough on-site and faster than a vet anyways)
(((edit: It's NOT some "I dont' need a vet" bullshit, it's just not an option, but I should say that every single thing I've read says a vet really isn't necessary now because he's unlikely to get one bone up, let alone 3. Also, uncooked is worlds better than cooked....I just want to get whatever into him that's needed quickly w/o delay, and imagine(hope, no other choice) I can do so as quickly/quicker than a "normal" situation's vet-visit would take..))))
((He was, and IS, acting 100% fine - only way I knew he ate them is because they weren't on the plate I'd left on the counter. The sites I've found have been saying that, off the bat, you need to look for chances the dog didn't get them down. My "best" part right now is that cooked is WAY worse than uncooked, that he was able to eat them slower since I was not inside the house, and that he's acting 100% normal and not choking/having any <visible> trouble digesting. He's currently acting wholly normal, playing w/ the cat while laying around, very attentively/normally)))
 
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that's the thing - surgery is one of the only things that is NOT an option. I'm fully aware that means I may have, in essence, killed my best friend. A vet is not an option, consider me as "50 miles in the woods" or "in sudan" or something, a vet simply cannot happen despite *anything* right now
((Edit: I know that's the biggest worry - I'm able to make almost anything happen besides surgery......but from what I'm reading online, and I've read a shit-ton of articles as of now, the "remove the bones" is not really an option. EVEN IF I could bring him to a vet, it seems the vet would not do that))
((and even if a vet could, unfortunately it's simply not an option - I'll stop short of saying I'd sacrifice myself for my doggy, but suffice to say that if a vet could do something, it *would* be done. I can't make that happen right now, it's completely impossible :/ ))
 
(updatge: I'm reading that "cushioning" it is the best approach once bones (cooked or uncooked, his is the latter) have been consumed w/o choking. I'm reading stupid shit like "white bread", which would obviously break down to sugars once in his gut. I've done <repeat> the best mix I could think of, a mixture of mostly fluids with fiber-powder ground in, specifically a 90% water 10% "smart balance omega" oil mixture, with about 7-8g of ground up psyllium husk. It was fluid when fed to him, but by now should be a soft, oily mix going through. I'm pretty sure that's on-point here, but wanna know for sure in case I can give him more. I'd start giving him more of my blend(or anything), but am worried too much = constipation, which would kind of negate the purpose)
 
find an emergency vet in phone book-or here online and call them and tell them everything. I have had to call an emergency vet clinic many times in my life bc i have had MANY animals in my care throughout my life. there should be an 800 number somewhere-if long distance is a problem.
google online emergency vet help-you may be able to contact them through email or forum or something.
i so sorry you are going though this. you never know how things will turn out.
just start googleing and call or find an online service.
keep us updated.
I'll be sending healing,positive energy your way. my animals have been my babies. I totally understand what your going through-more than you know.

much peace and love..............skillz
 
From my understanding and what I've read online, raw chicken bones are not a huge concern. Apparently, there is one "needle-like" bone in the chicken thigh, but it poses more of a threat to the dog's mouth.

Wolves/dog have been killing and eating chickens for a very long time. I don't think you have anything to worry about, seeing as how the bones were raw.

I'm a bit confused about this situation though. You have no phone/communication, but you have an Internet connection?!

P.S.
And if I felt my pitty was in a life/death situation, Nothing would stop me from getting her to a vet.
 
I'm a vets assistant....your pretty much doing everything u can. keep up with the fiber and such. just monitor her. its been a while now....did u notice any thing in her stool?? how is she now?
 
thank you again everyone for your help (even if it was knee-jerk reactions that weren't advisable - your concern/help is more appreciated than you know).

HE - sorry, my tough-guy brute pitty doens't like sexual ambiguity ;P - is doing just fine so far, NO blood, no lethargy, in fact he's been acting BETTER (probably the extra attn.).

However, there's been nothing resembling a bone(s). I've found some solid-ish pieces that've got a consistency that, while squishable, are far, far thicker/solider than regular feces*. I'm unsure if they're bone fragments, although they do squish thoroughly through, so if bone they are digested to "soft, mushable bone".
(*yes, I do touch my dog's feces, whether sick or not. Yes, I use gloves. IMO, if you have the knowledge of 'reading' feces to ascertain dietary info, you should do it, canine or human ;PP )
 
Oh and to those that've asked - I did have phone/internet/cash/whatever, I simply had a several hour window I was UNABLE to leave where me/my dog were. Leave it at that, I won't go further. Like I'd said tho, if there were any chance my 1st thing would've been a rush to the vet, that simply was of zero option, so had to do the best with what I could. I will say that after about 10min online, I realized a vet wasn't needed anyways, but STILL had a girl(vet) come by to take a look not too long after the fact, and she just verified what I'd already found online ;P (she could've come right back with meds or anything and there was no need IHO)
 
hey,you...i subscribed to this thread to keep up on your baby. i am so glad things are better. and for the record-i touch all my animals fecal matter when it is to save their lives or just make them feel better.there are things like latex/or non latex gloves and even grocery bags. you have to get down in it to see what they are passing. i spent my youthful summers on my aunt and uncles dairy farm and as one who is thirsty for all knowledge,i welcomed it all,and believe me, it was quite an education! lol
so -i got your back.=D
i have also been reading some interesting posts in a certain other thread of yours.....interesting indeed...
 
Heh glad it was interesting ;P
And totally agree - sounds gross but yeah, I'm quite aware of how excrement is a great indicator of diet. I can tell a great deal about my dog's food, and tweak his intake accordingly, by regularly (ie always) giving a quick glance while bagging ;)
 
Sorry I sorta got here a little late. I have a Bachelor's degree in Animal Science and own my own canine behavior services business. But since it were just chicken breasts, I wouldn't have been to concerned. The issue with chicken bones is splintering. I probably would not have induced vomiting but if you ever have to again hydrogen peroxide works well. When ingested it bubbles causing expanding the stomach causing vomiting. Very useful if you have a dog/cat that has eaten chocolate. Just make sure you are in an area that you don't want to clean up, because there will be a lot of puke. Keep up with the fiber.

Remember dogs are by nature meat eaters, and before domesticated ate every part of the kill, including the bones. If your dog ingested a large amount of bone you will see it appear as a sorta ash in his feces. Keep a keen eye on when he goes to the bathroom and pay attention to his activities.

You should always, even when nothing out of the ordinary has happened, visually inspect the dogs poop. I am not saying you have to pick it up and dissect it, I am saying just take a look at it. I know it sounds icky, but it will usually be the first indication of knowing when something is wrong with your dog, as well as if they have any sorts of parasites.

Good Luck
 
thnx for the advice :)
and yeah it's gross, but his feces is checked daily (whether sick or not) before I knot the bag - good for what you mentioned, as well as knowing if he's low/high on fiber, fats, etc.

For the hydrogen idea, never heard it - how much/what % recommended? How on earth would you get him to consume that? ((would there be better things to keep on hand in case? I mean, still wanna know how to do the hydro perox approach, but would ipacac(sp?) or castor oil or something be better? I def see how the hydro perox would just foam up like crazy, bloat his esophagus til he had to purge that shit!! OH- and how long, maximum, after ingestion of <chocolate, bones, whatever> is the latest to try to induce vommitting, like 2min or 30min?> ))
 
Damn it I wish I had seen this thread earlier!!! Sorry Sanger!

Everyone calm down. UNcooked chicken bones are not really a problem at all. In fact, uncooked chicken wings are really quite good for keeping your dogs teeth clean and healthy! Here in Australia we actually recommend to new puppy/dog owners to incorporate raw chicken wings in to the dogs usual diet to promote dental health. I feed my Jack Russell a raw chicken wing every single day and he's never had any problems (he's 8 years old now).

If a dog has never eaten a raw chicken wing before, and you give it to them for the first time, you must supervise them to make sure they don't try to swallow it whole (some dogs will attempt to do this, which can obviously be a potential problem in their intestines). But if they chew it and then swallow it, there shouldn't be any problems at all.

Everyone take note:
COOKED CHICKEN BONES ARE BAD and dogs must never ever eat cooked chicken bones.

RAW CHICKEN BONES ARE FINE as long as the dog chews them before swallowing.
Source: I have my diploma in Veterinary Nursing

Sanger I'm glad you didn't have to fork out any unnecessary veterinary bills!! And very glad to hear your little guy is just fine :)

Oh and lastly, Sanger, it's not gross that you check your dog's faeces, that just means you are a really caring, concerned, responsible pet owner :)
 
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