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[Ksa]

I really like the way you stated that in the first paragraph, but whats wrong with mixing ketamine, or any dissociative really, with stimulants? I did a good bit of some incredibly good K recently (purest I have ever and may ever have) and periodically smoked crystal between the peak of the highs and I found it to be VERY pleasurable. I felt that strangely enjoyable psychedelic confusion of dissociation from the K and the crystal left with me with a heightened sensation of awareness considering the size of the doses of this top shelf substance! A group of friends and I spent about 6-8 hours doing this without any problems at all. Everyone seemed and confirmed that they were and had had an incredible time. No one had any noticeable physical/mental/emotional stress or anxiety which, considering the quality and doses of both drugs, was a little surprising! There is almost always one person in the group that feels some level of discomfort even if its completely psychological or something as minor as being gassy!

However...

I've never been warned against the mixture of the two drugs nor have I ever really come across (or searched for) information stating that the combination is a bad one. Are there dangers involved with mixing them? Or, is that mixture just not your cup of tea?

That's because getting high is not a scientifically studied and documented phenomenon. If it works for you, you do it, if it doesn't you don't. ^_^

 

[Znegative]

I really like the way you stated that in the first paragraph, but whats wrong with mixing ketamine, or any dissociative really, with stimulants?

Certain dissasociative's such as Dextromethorphan mixed with certain stimulants that act upon seretonin as well as dopamine carry the risk of seretonin syndrome.

From what little information I can find, MXE works on Dopamine, and therefore could seriously increase the effects of other stimulants. The one documented case I believe of MXE overdose was a case in which someone injected MXE alongside MDAI (though the individual tool very high dosages of both substances)

 

[rules]

Seriously wonder about the competence of those involved in the health service if they can't even identify symptoms like that or take them seriously. If It would have gone worse or been permanent I would have been fucked. My whole body had stopped functioning.

it's quite hard to identify what drugs you're on just by looking at your symptoms. most of the same types of drugs have identical OD symptoms but treated differently.

 

[-Guido-]

MPA and Etylphenidate, mixed with MXE

This is your problem right here. Sounds like a stimulant overdose and the MXE potentated it. Serious vasoconstriction.

You never combine stimulants, especially research chemical stimulants.

Use RC's responsibly. Your irresponsibility ruins a good thing for those of us who are responsible.

 

[thadocta13]

I did an IM shot of MXE and took a huge rip from a meth pipe while it was kicking in and i had to sit down because it was so overwhelming. My mind was going nuts and i had to take a breather. it was insane. it was worse than being on 900mg pure DXM and doing a bunch of meth. dissociatives and meth are too weird for me to do in combination.

 

[mindash]

from my experience it sounds like you may have been on the borderline of cardiac arrest and got very lucky. do your homework before anything you ingest let alone mix

 

[lastest]

Seriously wonder about the competence of those involved in the health service if they can't even identify symptoms like that or take them seriously.

Right, and they're supposed to be clued up on the possible effects of all the unresearched, unregulated chemicals being sold as 'not fit for human consumption' online are they? Plus all possible interactions resulting from ill-advised combinations of those chemicals? You put yourself in a position in which it was hard for medical professionals to identify what was wrong with you, so don't blame them. Also, just because you were suffering extremely unpleasant subjective effects doesn't necessarily mean you were as close to death as you thought. The paras would have made an objective assessment of your physiological state and responded appropriately I'm sure. Remember you were high on a lot of drugs, and not in any state to make a judgement about your actual condition.

Don't get me wrong, we all make mistakes and I'm really glad you're okay, but don't blame the people who helped you for not being experts on designer drugs with no proper research done on them and short histories of human consumption.

 

[StretchOutAndWait]

Jesus christ, you were advised not to mix MPA and MXE two weeks ago, based on other people finding that the combination potentiates the adverse effects of at least one of them.

And why are you mixing MPA and EPH? Unknown risk combining them and for what? They do basically the same thing, just use one or the other.

This frustrates me. I've seen your posts here and in EADD and you seem quite sensible. What are you doing?

Edit: Sorry, in hindsight I feel quite guilty about this post. Not sure that berating you counts as harm reduction.

 

[Tryptamine*Dreamer]

I nearly died from mixing large amounts of DXM with an overdose of ephedra, most of it taken while I was too out of my mind to know what I was doing. This was long ago. I could barely move and could not say more than a few words during the portions of the trip where I had contact with my body. I had extreme hypertension and breathing trouble. I was fortunately unaware of most or all of the physical effects because I was totally out of my mind. Otherwise, panic would have made things worse.

I don't know if mixing MXE with stims is anything like mixing DXM with stims, but it could kill you if they interact similarly.

 

[junglebook]

dona mix ze chems!

 

[Coraline]

Be careful when mixing chemicals. Some chemicals raise body heat and some keep you from sweating.

Watch how much water you drink you can die from water intoxication. Your brain will swell like a sponge and brain damage occurres.

Always research what you take. Drugs are fun but can be deadly too.

 

[xxxyyy]

yeah a mixture of ketamine, 2c-b, MDMA, pregabalin, copious amounts of alcohol and etizolam was probably the worst drug combo i ever took.
i mean, not that i deserved anything else, just shovelling drugs into me without giving it a second though. but it was a kind of sobering experience though.

 

[Ninae]

Okay. I had another similar episode on Tuesday. Only this was caused by taking Ethylicaine 3 days in a row, no more than that. On the third night I started having troubles breathing like last time, then noticed my heart was beating really hard and irregular, and felt as if I was going to seize.

Called the emergency room and told them about my symptoms and what I had took and they said they had to send an ambulance again. So embarrassing. Had a seizure soon after I arrived and was put on diazepam and drip through the night.

 

[done juan]

i think you should lay off stims for a little while. eph made my heart beat really fast and gave me terrible anxiety so i havent had it since.

 

[Ninae]

Jesus christ, you were advised not to mix MPA and MXE two weeks ago, based on other people finding that the combination potentiates the adverse effects of at least one of them.

And why are you mixing MPA and EPH? Unknown risk combining them and for what? They do basically the same thing, just use one or the other.

This frustrates me. I've seen your posts here and in EADD and you seem quite sensible. What are you doing?

Edit: Sorry, in hindsight I feel quite guilty about this post. Not sure that berating you counts as harm reduction.

No, that was deserved. It was a moment of madness.