Benzos Upregulate receptors Nootropics

[lyrica333]

what people dont understand is they need to change their whole lifestyle for upregulating the receptors,

 

[lyrica333]

maybe even change the city or quit their job and get another one, move to another country u know big things, upregulating receptor upregulates ur physical body position in the cosmos,

 

[Pirrracetamol]

resize it or chop it up if you need the detail

Idkwid

 

[placebonaut]

here's the photos from @Pirrracetamol

 

[Pirrracetamol]

here's the photos from @Pirrracetamol

X = xanax
Mex = mexazolam
V = valium

 

[placebonaut]

What doses of Benzodiazepines were you taking and for how long?

It's also really important to figure out not only pharmacological factors, but social and personal factors.

I don't know really I've kept a log of all the benzodiazapines I've taken but it's 179 days it would take me forever to type.

Yes my diet is good, sleep very poor, exercise 3 times a week.

X = xanax
Mex = mexazolam
V = valium

I'm a bit confused on how to read your log, what dosage are these? 2mg X, 10mg V? 1mg M?

in the last picture you have "SAT 64 V". what does that mean?

 

[Leprechaun]

I'm a bit confused on how to read your log, what dosage are these? 2mg X, 10mg V? 1mg M?

in the last picture you have "SAT 64 V". what does that mean?

I found two amazing gaba modulators that help significantly. I was surprised how well they worked when I got off a two month stint on Valium.

1. Valerian root for sleep.
2. Chamomile tea (Needs to be true german chamomile) 3x a day.

Also, remove sugar and any sugar foods from diet and stop stimulant use (coffee + tea included).

I was out of withdrawals within about a week after transitioning from Valium to the above and got back into a good sleep routine with exercise, no caffeine and melatonin before bed.

 

[Pirrracetamol]

I'm a bit confused on how to read your log, what dosage are these? 2mg X, 10mg V? 1mg M?

in the last picture you have "SAT 64 V". what does that mean?

Yeah 2mg x. Where it says something like 16 v that = sixteen 5mg v. 1 mg Mg m means 1 mg m.

Last picture is 16 5mg v

 

[placebonaut]

so in your last photo you had

Day	Log	diazepam equivalent
Sat	3 mg alprazolam + 20 mg mexazolam	260 mg
Wed	3.5 mg alprazolam	70 mg
Thu	4.5 mg alprazolam	90 mg
Fri	4 mg alprazolam	80 mg
Sat	320 mg diazepam	320 mg
Sun	40 mg diazepam	40 mg
Mon	40 mg diazepam	40 mg
Wed	2 mg alprazolam	40 mg
Thu	7 mg alprazolam + 80 mg diazepam + 14 mg mexazolam	360 mg
Fri	120 mg diazepam	120 mg
Wed	8 mg alprazolam + 120 mg diazepam + 8 mg mexazolam	360 mg
Thu	7 mg alprazolam + 130 mg diazepam + 18 mg mexazolam	450 mg

This seems a similar pattern of usage to the 1st photo though maybe a little on the higher side of what you typically take.

You're also taking Tagamet = cimetidine, which will extend/increase the effect of the benzos.

after the last benzos on the thurs you had a 6 day free period, did you get withdrawal symptoms during this time? anxiety, insomnia, tremors, sweating, palpitations, and/or nausea? I'm guessing that the odd days where you have low dose of diazepam or xanax is when you might be feeling some of these symptoms?

High benzo numbers though, you have withdrawal and seizure risk if you suddenly stop - Don't risk it without medical supervision I would think. Nootropics won't be a magic bullet here.

I'd suggest some better advice from @Keif' Richards on this than my thoughts, but I'd think avoid combining benzos, aim to stop taking Tagamet so the effects of the benzos are more consistent, aim to move to a single benzo (Diazepam might be best given it's duration), then you can stabilise your usage and move away from binges to maintenance doses which will help manage withdrawal and give you a good foundation to begin a taper. Depending on your history and withdrawal symptoms you might need some medical supervision to do this safely.

I'm not sure what maintenance dosage would be sensible to start at, to a degree it's going to depend on your withdrawal symptoms, you might need to give it a try and then adjust your dosage if you're feeling a lot of pain. Hopefully someone like Keif might be able to suggest an appropriate starting maintenance dose depending on what symptoms you're getting.

1 step at a time! Get things stable 1st, then you can start a taper.

 

[Leprechaun]

so in your last photo you had

Day	Log	diazepam equivalent
Sat	3 mg alprazolam + 20 mg mexazolam	260 mg
Wed	3.5 mg alprazolam	70 mg
Thu	4.5 mg alprazolam	90 mg
Fri	4 mg alprazolam	80 mg
Sat	320 mg diazepam	320 mg
Sun	40 mg diazepam	40 mg
Mon	40 mg diazepam	40 mg
Wed	2 mg alprazolam	40 mg
Thu	7 mg alprazolam + 80 mg diazepam + 14 mg mexazolam	360 mg
Fri	120 mg diazepam	120 mg
Wed	8 mg alprazolam + 120 mg diazepam + 8 mg mexazolam	360 mg
Thu	7 mg alprazolam + 130 mg diazepam + 18 mg mexazolam	450 mg

This seems a similar pattern of usage to the 1st photo though maybe a little on the higher side of what you typically take.

You're also taking Tagamet = cimetidine, which will extend/increase the effect of the benzos.

after the last benzos on the thurs you had a 6 day free period, did you get withdrawal symptoms during this time? anxiety, insomnia, tremors, sweating, palpitations, and/or nausea? I'm guessing that the odd days where you have low dose of diazepam or xanax is when you might be feeling some of these symptoms?

High benzo numbers though, you have withdrawal and seizure risk if you suddenly stop - Don't risk it without medical supervision I would think. Nootropics won't be a magic bullet here.

I'd suggest some better advice from @Keif' Richards on this than my thoughts, but I'd think avoid combining benzos, aim to stop taking Tagamet so the effects of the benzos are more consistent, aim to move to a single benzo (Diazepam might be best given it's duration), then you can stabilise your usage and move away from binges to maintenance doses which will help manage withdrawal and give you a good foundation to begin a taper. Depending on your history and withdrawal symptoms you might need some medical supervision to do this safely.

I'm not sure what maintenance dosage would be sensible to start at, to a degree it's going to depend on your withdrawal symptoms, you might need to give it a try and then adjust your dosage if you're feeling a lot of pain. Hopefully someone like Keif might be able to suggest an appropriate starting maintenance dose depending on what symptoms you're getting.

1 step at a time! Get things stable 1st, then you can start a taper.

I didn't see this table. Those are absolutely life threatening numbers to go cold turkeyon. This guy needs to get on a taper. At this level of dosage, I could imagine a multi-month or over a year taper.

Ashton manual is an obvious start. But those numbers are way above any theraputic doses I have ever seen.

 

[Pirrracetamol]

so in your last photo you had

Day	Log	diazepam equivalent
Sat	3 mg alprazolam + 20 mg mexazolam	260 mg
Wed	3.5 mg alprazolam	70 mg
Thu	4.5 mg alprazolam	90 mg
Fri	4 mg alprazolam	80 mg
Sat	320 mg diazepam	320 mg
Sun	40 mg diazepam	40 mg
Mon	40 mg diazepam	40 mg
Wed	2 mg alprazolam	40 mg
Thu	7 mg alprazolam + 80 mg diazepam + 14 mg mexazolam	360 mg
Fri	120 mg diazepam	120 mg
Wed	8 mg alprazolam + 120 mg diazepam + 8 mg mexazolam	360 mg
Thu	7 mg alprazolam + 130 mg diazepam + 18 mg mexazolam	450 mg

This seems a similar pattern of usage to the 1st photo though maybe a little on the higher side of what you typically take.

You're also taking Tagamet = cimetidine, which will extend/increase the effect of the benzos.

after the last benzos on the thurs you had a 6 day free period, did you get withdrawal symptoms during this time? anxiety, insomnia, tremors, sweating, palpitations, and/or nausea? I'm guessing that the odd days where you have low dose of diazepam or xanax is when you might be feeling some of these symptoms?

High benzo numbers though, you have withdrawal and seizure risk if you suddenly stop - Don't risk it without medical supervision I would think. Nootropics won't be a magic bullet here.

I'd suggest some better advice from @Keif' Richards on this than my thoughts, but I'd think avoid combining benzos, aim to stop taking Tagamet so the effects of the benzos are more consistent, aim to move to a single benzo (Diazepam might be best given it's duration), then you can stabilise your usage and move away from binges to maintenance doses which will help manage withdrawal and give you a good foundation to begin a taper. Depending on your history and withdrawal symptoms you might need some medical supervision to do this safely.

I'm not sure what maintenance dosage would be sensible to start at, to a degree it's going to depend on your withdrawal symptoms, you might need to give it a try and then adjust your dosage if you're feeling a lot of pain. Hopefully someone like Keif might be able to suggest an appropriate starting maintenance dose depending on what symptoms you're getting.

1 step at a time! Get things stable 1st, then you can start a taper.

I'm already on an anti seizure drug so I don't get seizures.

 

[placebonaut]

I'm already on an anti seizure drug so I don't get seizures.

withdrawal is much more than just a seizure risk, the symptoms I mentioned might simply derail you an push you straight back to using.

 

[Pirrracetamol]

withdrawal is much more than just a seizure risk, the symptoms I mentioned might simply derail you an push you straight back to using.

I know i have the ashton manual hard copy

 

[chippermonk]

How are you doing @Pirracetamol ? Working on your taper? Feeling any relief from these nootropics and such?

 

[placebonaut]

How are you doing @Pirracetamol ? Working on your taper? Feeling any relief from these nootropics and such?

I've been thinking the same thing, keep us updated @Pirrracetamol it would be good to know how you're getting on