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Unknown Tryptamine (sold as 2C-T-2)-1st time dose experiments- experienced- enjoyment

HighFructoseCornSyrup

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2C-T-2 first time dose experiments -- experienced -- enjoyment

These happened about 5 months ago, there was a week or more between each trip. I was excited to try it as this was my first phenethylamine.

I took a (personally) conservative dose (12-14mg orally). No nausea whatsoever, possibly because of some very excellent weed. All the effects' onsets were very smooth. Visuals were very limited but potentiated by the nitrous. Speaking of the nitrous, with 2ct2 I got royally messed up mentally more than I had ever been without any negative feelings or emotions attached to it (slight ego loss, open to simply feeling the effects without any thoughts). It not only increased the nitrous' effects, but made them last much much longer. The nitrous also produced some visual fractaling on textures, including skin, for a short period. Contrary to many of the trip reports (Shulgin, erowid), I found very little introverted thoughts with 2ct2. Everything seemed more like eye candy to me, and things feeling surreal is the best word I've heard used to describe other objects while tripping on this. My mood was very elevated, and I was practically slap-happy at one point. Also, time dialation was servere. I remember one point that night where we (experienced friends, also on the same drug) was sitting outside and were talking and it felt like almost an hour had past but in fact it was seven minutes. Being around great friends was extremely enjoyable, something that I try to have when I trip.

2nd time (22-23mg orally). I did this alone, at night, my time was spent between being in my room and outside which is heavily wooded. I puked this time and nausea stayed with me for quite a while but eventually deminished well before the peak. During the onset, I was placed in a dreamy feeling whenever I would walk around. I smoked one bowl of weed (before peaking) and my visuals took off from there. 2ct2 really shines through visually, in my opinion, at these higher doses. Patterns and colors are simply beautiful and amazing. The best I can describe it is like having a translucent layer of CEVs overlaying all of my vision while my eyes are open. For me these are very animated and they "grasp" onto objects in my field of vision and contort them. On planar surfaces (painted wall, monitor) the visuals produced an amazing amount of depth and was the most clear fractaling that I have had. I also had vibrations going through my body strongly. Tracers are the longest and most dense I've had compared to amt or foxy. The entire experience was very positive, still not strong mentally (as far as streams of thoughts), and left me feeling very contented after the peak and for around two days afterwards. I definate +3 for 2 hours.

3rd time. (22-23mg insufflated, no weed, same setting as 2nd experience) 2ct2 does burn but there is not as much of the drug's indole smell as I was expecting. I got nauseated again and threw up serverly when I got a bad drip that coated my mouth. The nausea was very strong for about 12-15 minutes and then deminished quickly. More importantly, by going the insufflating route, the effects come on extremely fast (orally, onset was at least an hour). This was enough to make me worry about my health for a short while and at multiple times I thought, "why the fuck did I do this". I regained control after checking myself physically (heart rate jumped only 15-20 beats and I was shaking pretty hard), and after the nausea went away, everything was pretty enjoyable moodwise from the experience (I will however be more careful and insufflate slower next time). Before I get into describing the visuals, I will say that I was very mentally intact and could produce clear thoughts and hold conversations online (although text shifted and contorted onscreen).

Once again, this drug shined through visually. The CEV layer that I described in my 2nd experience was there but much more prevalent, intense, colourful, and animated. It was very rainbow coloured with fractalling patterns. It would cause physical textures (carpeting) to clump together with internal animations (usually spirals) and meld up against other formed clumps. These patterns had even more depth than my 2nd time. Outside, it was very foggy. This produced an extreme amount of depth, my visuals would take a hold of the small water particles and contort them adding impressive colours and animations. Tracers were on everything, everytime anything physically shifted or if I simply shifted my vision. All images would leave a long tracer, it didn't have to be something that gave off light. The tracers were very dense, retained most of the detail of the original object, very long, and would also become jagged as the object would go in and out of being blurry or detailed through the tracers' paths. Insufflation also shrinked the duration of the drug from 7+ hours when taken orally, to less than 5 hours.

2C-T-2 was a delight for me to exprience. Although I was expecting more introverted thoughts from the drug, its visuals was a fantastic experience each time. I look forward to tripping at the more visually intensive doses with friends. I find the onset of this drug to be a lot smoother than the tryptamine class of chemicals, although insufflating it produced a very fast rush of effects. What I do like is that I had an overall feeling of contentness for at least one day after tripping each time I dosed on 2C-T-2, something that doesn't happen with me on other entheogens.
 
Re: 2C-T-2 first time dose experiments -- experienced -- enjoyment

HighFructoseCornSyrup said:
2ct2 does burn but there is not as much of the drug's indole smell as I was expecting.

2C-T-2 is not an indole, and it has no indole smell. It is a phenethylamine. To add to that, I've come into contact with three different bathces of 2C-T-2 over the years and I never detected any odor. If you are smelling indole, then whatever material you have is not 2C-T-2.
 
Thanks for catching that.

But it did have a very strong odor, same as AMT, but stronger scent.

My first dose was conservative because I had doubts about the reliability of the source. I base that it really was 2CT2 because it matched a lot of the effects of other trip reports. The effects were very different from other research chemicals I have tried, so I know that it wasn't those marketed differently. But I have no way of accurately testing what I had.
 
Should this be an issue then to inform others of another risk of buying from online companies? I've seen threads talking about companies cutting cheaper drugs and selling them as more expensive ones, but not any with cutting a drug that is not very common and gives different effects from the more common (I say more common as they are also less expensive) research chems. (ie, AMT 5-MeO-DiPT).

Think it is worth mentioning in the psychedelics forum?
 
I guess I don't see a problem. But bluelight is not a place to help people aquire drugs, and to discuss the problems with aquiring them. Keep that in mind. If you do it in a way where no vendors are mentioned, just a simple warning, I don't object. Just word it carefully.

MGS
 
I'm one of the friends he mentioned with the first night. The chemical we ingested definately had an odor to it, and it was obviously indole. This should have clued me in, but I had more faith in the supplier than was healthy. I didn't think it smelled nearly as strongly as AMT, but it was a very similar scent.
 
I don't neccessarily see anything unusual in your first and second experiences.

However, I do believe there is something seriously wrong in your third experience after insufflating 22-23mgs of 2C-T-2. That dose is completely insane. Even insufflating 5mgs is going to be far more intense than taking 20-25mgs orally. And the side-effects like nausea, vomitting and muscle tension are unbearable at even 12mgs. I wouldn't advise even the most experienced tripper to ever attempt insufflating more than 8mgs, it's that intense and the side-effects are that great.

The one time I insufflated 12.5mgs, I couldn't even see because my vision was so distorted and I was hallucinating so hard. And after closing my eyes and putting on headphones, I experienced the most intense synaethaesia of my life. I didn't simply just see the music, I was floating through the universe which was made from the music.

Even at 8mgs, it's virtually impossible to see for several hours because you will be hallucinating so hard. That dose will still cause severe nausea and you'll experience severe muscle tension for the first hour, but it's at least somewhat bareable.

I've also known several other people to insufflate various doses of 2C-T-2 between 5-12.5mgs. Although the effects range pretty greatly when taken orally, when insufflated it's one of the absolute most sensitive drugs I know of. The difference between 5 and 12.5mgs is HUGE. Everyone I know had similar experiences. I'm the only person that was even able to take 8mgs without throwing up or experiencing unbearable muscle tension. I know five people that were completely incapacited at 12.5mgs and I'm the only one that didn't throw up for HOURS on end. And everyone that took more than 5mgs also reported hallucinating so hard and their vision being so distorted that for several hours they weren't able to see what they were actually looking at.

If you actually had 2C-T-2 on your third experience, I just cannot believe you insufflated 22-23mgs or anywhere near that much and I have to assume you either had a different drug or it was cut or impure.

There is one thing, though. Unlike the burn people describe with 2C-B and 2C-T-7, while it was noticeable, I didn't think it was at all unbearable with 2C-T-2. Other people I've known to insufflate it have said different things, though. Some said it was extremely painful, others said not that bad just an unpleasant tasting drip.
 
Don't snort PEAs

^^^^^^^^^^^^

That is exactly why phenethylamines should not be snorted. Not only are the side-effects greatly increased from this route, but it can be very dangerous. Remember all the 2C-T-7 deaths from snorting?

There is just no reason to snort something that works fine orally. 2C-T-2 is a powerful chemical. 20 mg (orally) should be enough to give most anyone a full +3. It seems to me most people like to snort these things just to be 'hardcore' and but really they are just fools. I always thought the best part of phenethylamine psychedelics like 2C-T-2 and 2C-B is the slow, gentle come-up you get when you eat them.
 
That indole smell may have been from chemicals they used to wash the 2C-T-2 prior to distribution. But your trip report sounds too much like a foxy trip/tryptamine cock-tease: all eye-candy and no introspection. 22mg 2C-T-2 snorted? The potency for the 2C-X chemicals contrast nearly threefold when snorted. I doubt you couldve survived that route. Did you even use a scale?
 
I don't think it was actually 2ct2 now, and it was not AMT or Foxy.

snorting it did indeed bring up the experience by 2/3 fold fromt the 2nd experience. I could not see because of the visuals.

I always use a scale (accurate to .01), I underweigh and undercut my doses for added safety. I've weighed a lot of chemical with these scales and have never taken, nor given, a dose that was incorrect.

The first experience doses were actually weighed on a lab scale (.001 accuracy).

And I don't do things to be hardcore, and the decision to snort it was made after reading the 2C-T-7 death reports and looking at other information about snorting 2C-* chemicals.
 
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HighFructoseCornSyrup said:
And I don't do things to be hardcore, and the decision to snort it was made after reading the 2C-T-7 death reports and looking at other information about snorting 2C-* chemicals.

I don't mean to be rude, but you snorted this after you read how dangerous it could be? Do you have a deathwish, or are you just stupid?
 
I consider snorting just another way of getting drugs into the body. I wanted to see if it would lessen the nausea and it was at a point that I wanted a productive but shorter trip. I also wanted a more intense trip because the chemical was giving great effects at the oral doses and seemed that it could be increased further.

I acknowledge the danger of snorting chemicals. It was another risk, like taking drugs in general. Like in my post I said that I was concerned for my health at one point, I was ready to dial 911 and bite the bullet if further problems arose.

Although snorting may have not been the best thing to do, there were legitimate reasons for me to insufflate the chem. I don't think a broad generalized label of myself being "hardcore," "hav[ing] a deathwish," or being "stupid" applies.
 
Interesting.. so you do not know what the chemical was?
Do you have any of it left, like even 1mg to send for a lab test.

If the research chemical company ripped you off for sure, I wouldn't hesitate to complain.. They don't want anything to do with customer affairs or the media. And if some company ripped me off a few hundred, I am an asshole enough to get them closed down.. They're being dangerous.. They know people are going to use them recreationally, and they send a unknown chemical which totally different doses.. That could be fatal. Complain to them and tell them never to fuck around with selling the wrong chemicals.. Anyway.. my 2c on that topic.

I changed the topic, since it is not 2C-T-2.
 
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