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unfortunately psychs are not for everyone...

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I love them. Ok with that said.
I knew that most people do not enjoy the special experience psychs can offer because either they are not in the right mind set ( internal) or the right setting ( environment). Last night one of my wifes best friends was in town and my wife was insistent on sharing the wonderfull experience that we allways seem to get with psychs. I cautioned my wife and said that not everyone will understand psychs and definitely not everyone will enjoy their experiences or gain insight from psychs. She was convinced that it was her bff in a great environment so nothing could go wrong. my wife wanted to give her lsd and I said no way so we opted for 7.5 mg of 2ci. figured 2ci is more mild and lead to a good experience. so the night went pretty well. u could tell her friend enjoyed herself but was not comfortable. thank god she didn't have a complete melt down. anyway this morning my wife and I were in the bathroom getting ready and her friend just left without saying goodbye. it was a pretty big hit to the both of us. she called later and apologised and said she didn't mean anything bad by leaving. I think It just freaked her friend out and explained again to the wife that not everyone is lucky enough to experience something as amazing as psychs. I just want to say I'm happy my life is great. I'm happy psychs work so great for me ( fun insightful ect) and sad that everyone cannot experience them as positively as myself.
 
Even for the people who do like psychs, they reach a point where they need to take a break for a few months to chill and reflect, and not let the intensity of the trips carry away your mental machinery.

It seems like after an intense but short period of high dose trips, I need to look for ways to channeling the energy to meditation instead of letting it loose in anxiety.

I guess that's a major reason why some people are uncomfortable with psychs - they aren't able to channel the energy from the anxiety to something else.
 
I wouldn't be so worried about someone leaving without saying goodbye, especially if they've just been through their first psychedelic experience. I've done this on several occasions just because I need to be alone with my thoughts. Social functioning can take a temporary hit.

Basically don't make mountains out of molehills.
 
Yeah i'm never to steadfast to give someone who has never tried something anything, not even weed because so many people go places that I just never have, extreme anxiety panic attacks and I just can;t sympathize for them...2c-I is WEIRD too, and uncomfortable, If that was my first psyche then I would have a very delayed trip life... I tried it once and disliked it strongly due to its oddness and freaky out of control nature, LSD just rolls off my back and has never been as "divine" and of such importance that others have put it at...it's the fun one for me :P
 
My fourth psychedelic experience... my second psychedelic trip or so. and my second last one at that.
I took the mescaline, rammed it down my throat, and smoked some weed around the peakage. BAM. No more psychs for me. :'(
 
yah I was a drug geek long before I was tripping every week... Spent many hours at a teen reading reports on erowid and what not.. So I had a pretty good idea of what I was getting into. If you dont take the time to seriously research these compounds before you take them you are putting your self in a bad situation. I think the problem is a lot of people will smoke weed and get drunk, maybe try molly or other drugs as well, long before they ever have access to psychedelics. So I think when these people who have done no research here about psychedelics they decide they want to try them assuming it will be like how TV or the media displays trips.... Obviously nothing could be farther. So they decide to take these extremely altering substances expecting it to either be like they saw on Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, or at the bery least will be able to control it like all the other commonly avaible drugs.
 
Totally agree with the title of this thread!
Out of all my friends who tripped as teenagers, I can only think of a couple out of dozens that would still consider tripping again.
Mostly because they are battling their own demons (alcoholism, coke, pills, anger, etc...) some are traumatized by our past psyche experiences (bad trips).
I am the only one that I know out of all my friends who is a regular psyche user, and I only use them by myself (too many bad experiences caused by others).
I wasnt welcomed into the psyche community by the most upstanding citizens of our community: the guy who introduced me to acid (2 hit trip - 1 hit was given to me at the peak of my trip, I was too fucked up to comprehend what I was doing, I was only 13) is now a lifer in solitary confinement upstate for stabbing his prosecuting attorney in the court room with a six inch blade he smuggled through his ass- this guys dad was a former local judge too.(Tripped out seeing this guy come out on msnbc's "Locked up")
*Point is some people really cant take psyches, and when they do, they will go off the deep end!
 
Some people benefit from psychedelics but there are many methods of achieving insight that do not require any substances, so I don't think it's sad that some people are not drawn to this path. I find it more frustrating that this path to insight is often judged as fake or "easy", when in reality it takes a lot of work to integrate these experiences and learn from them.

I wouldn't take it too personally if she left like that...I've left friend's places like that after coming down and they were asleep but I needed to get out of there and be alone. It's not like you forced the experience on her, she was willing to try it out.
 
it doesnt seem like she had a bad time from what you have typed. It seems more like you misinterpreted her leaving without waking up and telling you first.

I think she probably just was ready to head out. I have done this lots of times, theres never any problem. Though, usually I leave a note, but sometimes my trip friends don't find the note....

I think you were just expecting it to be as amazing to her as it is to you, and instead it was fun, but not much more. She also probably was unaware of the culture of sharing your experience the morning after or whatever (the end of your trip, when everyone kinda discusses whatever about their experience that they feel is worth sharing)

Maybe there is more to it than what youve explained though (her language and voice used to talk to you, other things that you observed while you were tripping with her, etc...
 
I don't think its advisable but i know people who have fed psychedelic newbies 20mg of 2c-i. 15mg is a good spot for me. 20mg is vomiting rainbows from my eyes levels of intense.

But no one really freaked out in a bad way.... They freaked out in a way that comes from tripping hard enough to push limits of most.

And i have tripped hard with more than a thousands of other people utterly rocked on some powerful hallucinogenic drugs....

And seen just one person freak out in a bad way..... But he was on some acid that I would bet money on most people having never eaten anything that good, because it took me 2 years to come across a single thing on that sort of level.... And i only got it once.

Ive seen newbies love ketamine if that says anything.
 
The problem with low dose 2C-I is you get fuck all visual effects but all of the body load. So you see the odd visual distortion, all the while feeling like you drank 10 cups of coffee and you can't get comfortable no matter how you sit.

I wouldn't want to do it again either.
 
I love psychedelics but I definitely wont be going near 2c-e any time soon. I think it's the body load for me that makes it so unappealing. Though the major paranoia and loss of sense of being coupled with lack of control within my entire self was... rather crappy as well.

LSD and shrooms are all I need. I guess it's all about the person taking things. The mind is a powerful agent of self being.
 
noizemare said:
I love psychedelics but I definitely wont be going near 2c-e any time soon. I think it's the body load for me that makes it so unappealing. Though the major paranoia and loss of sense of being coupled with lack of control within my entire self was... rather crappy as well.

LSD and shrooms are all I need. I guess it's all about the person taking things. The mind is a powerful agent of self being.
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2C-I, not 2C-E. 2C-E is on a whole different end of the spectrum IMO. It's no joke, and in my opinion is one of the most intense 2C's there is. Plus the body load / stomach discomfort is almost unbearable depending on your dose.

OP, I have done the same thing many times on psychedelics, sometimes my surroundings just become "too much", I feel overwhelmed and I just have to get out, RIGHT THEN. I wouldn't take it personally, I never meant it that way at least.
 
Yeah if the nature of these substances is at all the same though 2C-I for me was still a wild ride, enough that I can be certain that first time LSD would be more reliable and comfortable than first time 2C-I
 
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