un-impressed with GHB

[impulsive_state]

i recently had some ghb and didnt realy feel much, i took what i was told to take by my friend who was also taking it, now im bigger than him and i know this is a factor, so.. since ive took double the dose he took and only felt a bit dizzy.
is this it?
ive known it be called liquid ecstasy my experience is Very far from this discription.
is this as good as it gets or do i need to do more? also if i do too much ill just pass out right? i dont drink alcahol.

 

[J4Play]

I'm not really a huge fan of GHB either. I've had it a few times and have ended up throwing up on a number of occasions. It does make music sound pretty sick though. This is the only thing it has going for it in my opinion.
It is nothing like ecstasy at all. Liquid ecstacy is really a bad name for it.
However my friend cant get enough of it. Try a bit more if you like, but dont have too much cos you might pass out. And yes alcohol is a no no.
cheers.

 

[Fujicrow]

it really depends on the user...
G is a very finicky drug.
GHB is -very- dose dependant and different users get different highs from it.
Anyway a -REALLY- good G high makes you think it's not too far away from E (high-wise)
keep trying with higher doses (or lower), but increase (or decrease) in very little amounts. Do this in different days, never in the same 24 hour cycle, this is a good way to find your "sweet spot"

 

[theHorde]

don't give up! :D the first couple times i took G, i hardly felt anything and thought the drug was lame. turns out i just have a higher tolerance than normal - once i found the right dose, i began to love it. fujicrow is right about the "sweet spot"...it's different for everyone.
even if you experiment and end up deciding that you just plain don't like GHB on its own*, i'd still recommend keeping some around to take during comedowns, especially e comedowns. it'll bring the original high back a little, make you feel less cracked out and more giddy, and help you sleep.
*i've never met anyone who falls into this category, but ymmv, i guess
[ 11 January 2002: Message edited by: theHorde ]

 

[PhreeX]

I flat out dislike GHB .. it can be usefull if you want to just knock yourself out, but if I want that type "high" I will opt for benzos..

 

[Fujicrow]

GHB's ideal high is nothing like benzos. It's a more of an energetic, happy high. It gets benzo-like only in high doses.

 

[SovietContin]

Impulsive, you're not alone. A few years ago I bought a spring water bottle full of GHB. Everyone else seemed to enjoy it. I thought it was utter crap. For whatever reason it really didn't effect me much other than steal my coordination. One night I had 6 caps and my girlfriend at the time had 3. I was hardly phased. She couldn't even talk straight and I had to carry her into her house and tuck her in bed with her clothes on because she was so out of it.
I'm with Phreex on the benzos being much better if you want that type of a high. Or even alcohol. I'm not a fan of either of those as well. Just not my thing.
As far as the "liquid ecstasy" thing, I think that was just a cute nickname for it to coax girls into trying it.
Not to mention, the first time I ever got a blowjob, I kissed the girl right afterwards, unwittingly getting snowballed. The few times I ever used GHB, I always had flashbacks of that, because it taste like semen, only worse.
My words of wisdom are that the fact that a dose is usually only like $2-3 says a lot and it's a really stupid drug anyways.

 

[Lysergic]

Originally posted by SovietContin:
Not to mention, the first time I ever got a blowjob, I kissed the girl right afterwards, unwittingly getting snowballed. The few times I ever used GHB, I always had flashbacks of that, because it taste like semen, only worse.
Man thats really fucked up. I mourn for you.

 

[fizzygirl]

Honestly, I understand the reasoning behind describing one drug as a comparision to another (g to x, or to alcohol), as maybe its the closest thing to try to explain a feeling. But it kind of does a disservice as then you are looking for certain things to happen, or certain feelings to be there, and when they aren't then you are disappointed.
There is a certain dosage where GHB is nice, and below that its just barely noticeable and floaty. For some people that is a really fine line and there's another fine line between nice and "zzzzz" which I, for one, have not been able to navigate as well as I'd like to. (Always in the company of trusted friends!) The gaps in between seem to be a lot larger for guys, so you most likely aren't doing a dose large enough to get the effect of some other people (the dizzy feeling has always been the level i've gotten to before i get all good feeling, or..it's just not what you're looking for.
Possibly give it another try if you want to, or just chalk it up to experience, and move on. As a sidenote..ideally my experience with it is one unlike a benzo as well. I actually get pissed if i do too much and miss out on the fun i could have been having.
[ 11 January 2002: Message edited by: fizzygirl ]

 

[Harry@Piekarnia]

I love GHB! Especially on the way down from E. Or even better when mixed with Coke. It's nothing like the benzo feeling. But don't fuck around with the home made shit (unless you do the research first and know what you are doing when you make it), get the pharm grade quality over the net.
Harry

 

[Exx_head]

I happen to think it is the perfect drug because:
1) As long as you don't mix it with alcohol or another depressant, it is virtually impossible to OD on. And I'm not talking about passing out, that is not the same as an OD.
2) You come up in 15 minutes, you can peak as long as you want, and then you come down about 1.5 hours later.
3) You don't have that shitty hungover feeling you get from alcohol or X.
4) MUCH CHEAPER than drinking, and not as hard on your body.
There are a few things that people dont understand thanks to urban legend and the media.
GBL and GHB are NOT the same thing. Many folks are buying GBL (gamma butyrolactone) off the net, and taking it or selling it as GHB. It turns to GHB in your stomach and liver. The dosage for this is WAY different than GHB which is usually made by converting GBL with sodium or potassium hydroxide and water into the liquid that tastes like semen (from above). As long as the concentration is the same, the dosage to get the same high will be about the same. However, eating beforehand makes a HUGE difference. Even to the point that 2 grams won't make you feel anything.
Always know the dosage you need before you take it. This means you need to experiment at HOME and don't go out to a club or rave and pass out--this is a bad thing (I speak from experience on this).
Some people get nauseated from it. I never have. To each his own, but it is a great drug for 90% of the users.
Peace

 

[impulsive_state]

lmfbo@soviet :D
cheers all, ill just keep trying with it i guess, not 2nite tho as im experimenting with "hash tea"

 

[Urbal]

Yeah, I felt the same way w/ GHB at first, when I took it, i was like, "ok, this is what all the hype is about....." but I had also taken it when under the influence of coke which might have been why I wasn't 'feeling' or 'getting' it... Then one night my friend offers me some GHB, and I was totally sober at the time... I took it... 20minutes later i saw what the hype was about.. I felt happy, floaty, energetic, kinda silly.. it really felt good....
So anyway eyeah, the point i was attempting to make was, it has a lot to do with a lot of outside factors... dose, mood, stomAch full or empty, cross buzz, etc....
-e

 

[BellababE]

I would prefer never to see the stuff again, personally. My boyfriend had some, and we would mix it in with root beet to mask the taste. The first time i had it, we went out partying. I had no alcohol; i never mix dangerous combinations, and i am really responsible. However, just the ghb began to upset my stomach, and i felt like i was dying in the middle of the street. I freaked out my best friend, who didnt know much about the stuff, and i ended up going back to my BF's dorm room and passing out.
So, quite simply, i did it a couple other times just to give it another chance. These times it didnt make me sick, but i didnt really care for it. I tend to be quite the conneseur of the drug type, and this is on my "NO" list. my boyfriend still loves it however, *sigh*

 

[FreakK]

oh man, the high from GHb is really nothing like BENZo's..in fact, i dont really consider the feeling you get from taking BENZO's a "high" type feeling..all BENZo's do for me is sedate me, and pretty much put me to sleep...
GHB, on the other hand, gives me a great buzz and it gives me limitless energy and i feel very happy and in the mood to party!!it also stimulate the LIBIDO like nothing else i have taken..this, and GHB gives one NO hangover..in fact, it actually makes one feel rather nice the following morning, as GHB releases large amounts of GH in your sleep, thus improving the quality of last night sleep...GHB is great when you can find the real thing..i have found that GBL hurts my stomach and gives me a really TIRED, WHACKED OUT feeling the next day...plus, nowadays, where i live, it is so hard to gauge the purity level of GHB or GBL...

 

[Fujicrow]

yes purity is another important factor. Having tried 1,4 BD, GBL and NaGHB, I can say there are significant differences in the highs.
While all of these compounds transform into GHB in the stomach, they produce different feelings.
1,4 BD is very euphoric but there's also an intoxication feeling that's attached to the high, and remains even after the peak effects are gone.
GBL is very very similar to NaGHB but still the high is not as good and it may leave you feeling tired afterwards.
NaGHB is what I consider GHB. It's by far one of the most clean, euphoric and happy drug experiences one may experience! It takes a while to come on, and it's a lot more gradual, but it simply feels PURE. and when the effects are gone, it leaves you feeling energized. Really, G is the perfect drug, you have to get used to it and find your right dosage...

 

[Doug E]

well guys, i am just waking up from quite a dangerous clubbin experience friday night...I started off by having a couple drinks, however since drinks were so expensive that i didn't have enough money to continue doing so. my good friend had some G with him so i started drinking some of that. now, i've mixed alcohol and G together before on many occasions and use it completely responsibly. it is ok in the PROPER dosage. and i know exactly what that is. however, this was the first time i ate a good sized meal so late before going to a club.
i ended up taking a few extra caps than normal because i didn't feel anything yet..this turned out to be quite bad...i don't exactly remember what happened but i remember parts of the night where security took me to the back patio and i puked out there(probably from mixing it with a couple drinks). they then took me outside so i wouldn't make a scene and i proceded to pass out against the wall. security called the paramedics and i was taken to the emergency room. they ran tests on my blood and since i was not very conscious they assumed i had just drank too much alcohol (hence, the puking). they kept me there for a couple hours and my friend finally got a hold of the right hospital and took me home.
quite a dangerous situation i was in last night and it could have been a lot worse. I wouldn't say i OD'd, but rather i just passed out from too much G combined with a couple drinks. definitely not the smartest thing to do and it has changed the way i will party from now on...

 

[PhreeX]

Originally posted by Doug E:
now, i've mixed alcohol and G together before on many occasions and use it completely responsibly. it is ok in the PROPER dosage. and i know exactly what that is. however, this was the first time i ate a good sized meal so late before going to a club.
Obviously not.. if anything, the food in your stomache let you take MORE then you would normally have... don't mix alcohol and GHB. PERIOD!

 

[quale]

He is saying it made him think he was less drunk/affected than he really was and thus to imbibe more.

 

[Fujicrow]

the thing with G, (specially 1,4 BD or GBL) is that even if u got a full stomach, it will hit you, only much much later than u thought it would, thus you are prone to redose within an hour without the first having hit yet, which is, a very, very stupid thing to do.