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ultram?

Umm, the active chemical would get into your bloodstream via your mucus membrane? Its readily soluable so snort away.
 
Ultram really isn't worth your time cyber...Save it for when you're trying to stave off withdrawal symptoms after finally having found some good opioids.
 
Ultram ARE NOT completely useless....the packaging insert states 50mg provides the same analgesic effect as 60mg codeine....
I was using Ultram for 3 months along with Oxy...start off at 150mg-200mg and work your way up, depending on tolerance of course....
Of course it's not as great as oxycodone, but it does have recreational value...
 
The fact that they have the same analgesic effect isn't really relevent...for instance the NSAIDs (like tylenol) prodoce a level of analgesis equivalent to some level of morphine...but no amount of tylenol will get you high.
However, it appears Ultram may have some abuse potential. This abstract claims to report a patient dependent on tramadal (ultram) who needed to be methadone detoxed (or maybe this was the greatest script scam in the world).
 
Don't snort it. It hurts like a fuckin mutha.
Even if you do get rec value out of it, just swallow believe me very high on ouch factor.
 
50mgs Ultram/Tramadol may have the same *analgesic* effect as 60mgs of codeine, but it does not produce anything close to the euphoric feelings.
And if you've used codeine, you'd know that the euphoric feelings are very very subtle even to someone who has never abused drugs before.
So think about it.. a drug that's weaker than codeine. Why would you even try to get high on it?
 
Tramadol is given to Heroin Junkies in my state
to stave off withdrawal. It DOES have recreational value. I have been taking it as an antidepressant for years and it has never failed me. The thing about Ultram is that you either like it or you don't.Most do.It feels just like morphine to me. I feel sorry for anyone who gets nothing from it.
C-Man
 
Ultram is a good drug, but snorting is not necessary. It can become recreational at higher doses, though it may cause spasms, which seem relatively harmless. Around 600-800mg, the high can become intense and enjoyable, and lasts a good 12 hours. I personally prefer it to codeine, but not hydrocodone. I take it as a mood-lifter, and rarely exceed 250mg a day.
By coincidence its a cyclohexanol derivative like ketamine, but it more like effexor.
 
^^^
And it also has mild SRI (serotonin reuptake inhibitor) properties...so it acts as a mild antidepressant.
Ultram (tramadol) does have recreational value, although it is pretty minor. For some reason, though, it seems to fuck me up far more than opiates....200-600 mg (btw I am not suggesting anyone take this kind of dose, realize that I have a high tolerance for opioids) feels almost as potent as injected heroin. Codeine, hydrocodone, and oxycodone have less of an effect on me. I'm not sure why this is, I think my brain chemistry must be fairly unique.
Unfortunately ultram also makes me extremely nauseous -- which is rarely a problem with opiates. It lasts many hours as well..sometimes I'll still feel some of the effects when I wake up the next day. And I find that ultram has less analgesic effect in proportion to how much it fucks me up in the head. I.e., the amount of ultram I need to take to kill pain results in me getting extremely out of it...while a much smaller amount of an opiate kills pain more effectively and doesn't mess me up as much.
I would not snort ultram, btw, as it burns like a bitch. Just take it orally...
 
Ultram is NOT useless. It's called synthetic codiene and it CAN fuck you up. One pill is only 50 mg so you will have to take 6 or so on an empty stomach for a good time.
I did 150 mg's of tramadol hcl yesterday and found its way more potent than ultram.
BTW its not an opiate but is a narcotic.
[ 13 August 2002: Message edited by: EvMan717 ]
 
High doses of tramadol does seem to cause vomiting, which is rare for me with real opiates. This leads one to think "wow....im puking....I must be fucked". Subjectively, the feeling is comparable to strong narcotics (high dose) yet has a stimulating aspect.
The first time I took tramadol was in tijuana, and under the impression that it was going to be weak, I swallowed 11 capsules (550mg). About an hour later, I began sweating heavily, my vision became blurry and I tasted vomit creeping up my throat.....good times......
 
Ultram certinly does have recreational potential.. of course 50mg of Ultram isn't going to give you the same 'euphoria' 60mg of codeine would (well, say maybe 100mg Ultram and 120mg codeine) .. of course you have to take a good amount but still, even with a tollerance to other narcotics I got a nice buzz from Ultram..
 
if i take 10 50mg ultram i can relate it too 40mg of oxycodone its a pretty good high for me...i dont think i would snort it becuz snorting a cuple grams of pill fillers isnt for me.
 
Good grief,
"Ultram is NOT useless. It's called synthetic codiene"
No,It is an analogue of codiene, not synthetic codeine.That is an oxymoron.Codiene is a natural
alkaloid of the poppy flower.There can be nothing sythetic about codiene.
One pill is only 50 mg so you will have to take 6 or so on an empty stomach for a good time.
Don't try to rub off your ignorance on people who really need to know something about a powerfull drug such as Tramadol HCL.Stupid statement.Everyone is different and if one does not have a preexisting opiate tolerance 6 will be too many.Start with no more than 100mg, as excessive doses, above 400mg, have been known to cause grand mal seizures in some patients.Read the fucking package insert atleast before giving out information of this type.
"I did 150 mg's of tramadol hcl yesterday and found its way more potent than ultram."
Dumbass.Tramadol HCL and Ultram are the same fucking thing.When your bottle says Tramadol HCL you got generic Ultram.When it says Ultram, you got name brand.Geez how do people get this mixed up?
BTW its not an opiate but is a narcotic.
Another complete oxymoron.Anything that is an opiate is going to be a narcotic.All opiates are narcotics.Ultram is an analogue that mimics the effects of codiene.It has narcotic like effects and yes it will give a euphoria.There IS a differece
Oxymoron: a figure of speach in which two ideas of opposite meaning are combined to form an expressive phrase that is contradictive.
C!~
 
There is nothing wrong with the statement ' tramadol is not an opiate but it is a narcotic' . There is no need for you to be quite so quick to anger, clonazapem.
Btw, I would NOT recommend taking ultram on an empty stomach; at least for me, this increases nausea substantially. Taking it with food is absolutely necessary in my case.
 
what would be the best/easiest way to obtain enough tramadol to aid in detoxing from heroin? i don't really want to openly admit to a doctor that i am addicted to heroin, and ask him for a script... so does anyone know of any other symptoms that ultram would be prescribed for? or can anyone suggest another way to get some?
also, how would tramadol compare to methadone for detox purposes?
 
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