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UK/Eire Heroin Drought Discussion: v6

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Yeah.she`s real nice isn`t she? Don``t know whether you were part of that paranoid episode earlier but it spread like a virus for obv reasons..................

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/editor-s-picks/drought-forces-addicts-online-1.1077869?

No, I was watching though. I have to say that unless someone is actively sourcing or selling they have nothing to worry about I wouldnt have thought. If the police are monitoring for information gathering purposes I would be surprised... Even if they were, from a legal point of view unless someone was soliciting for business or breaking the law in some way, the authorities wouldnt be able to gain IP addresses.

Furthermore, Ive seen it said a few times that the police would stand out in some way. In my experience, they don't. Its the same old story most times when people get burnt by undercover jacks, at least here in Liverpool, - they cant believe it. Therefore I dont think theres any point being suspicious. Its more likey to be someone who you didnt suspect, who fitted right in.
Just M.O.
 
lol....Theres always a clever-dick on every forum aint there... ;)
Yeah, fair enough, you'e probably right about the type of grass....All I know is DMT is the most common naturally occuring substance in nature....Its in all kindsa things...plants, animals, fungi....Its even in the human brain. And yes, it is true that there are hippy communes in Wales that live on the money they make producing/selling hallucinogens.....probably in England too. Acid,shrooms,mescaline,DMT,Ketamine....They make the lot.
The reason for the bluelighter status, if you must make it your business, is so I can send messages to my friends.....Bluelighter entitles you to more things, you should check it out my brother.:)

Sorry mate their ain't a hippy commune in the world that makes mushrooms or ketamine!! Maybe they grow or pick shrooms in November & send some fuk heads to India on a k run once in a while but that's as far as it goes!!
 
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Define easy..?

Easy is the low threshold approach to replacement therapy. In otherwords, you go into a clinic, show a history of drug use and they start you on a test dose and/or UA and then start you on a methadone dose 60-80 mg if maintenance is the goal, 40 mg if detox is the goal. After being clean for 3.5 years and living in San Jose (Silicon Valley), CA I relapced on stuff. I started getting it in the open air scene in San Francisco, 1 hour away, then East palo Alto, about 30 minutes away. Then I decided to try to get on methadone detox. Had to go to San Francisco because that was the closet clinic without a waiting list. San Francisco had many clinics, bouth county run and for profit. The for profits were easy to get on. The problem was that San Jose's clinics were all county run and subsidized so they had budget problems and had month long waiting lists. I got in and barely made it under the wire- and was constantly hurased, but after getting up to 135 mg I stopped using stuff.

Then I moved to San Diego. The clinic was for profit. Not only did they treat you like a human being unlike the SJ clinic were the staff would throw around their petty authority, but they had longer hours and facilitated takehomes. The idea was to get you back to normal functioning without the clinic becoming a major distraction. There hours were more work friendly: 5:30am-7:00pm, no brethalizing, testing for THC and they only started testing for benzos latter. Could get up to a 2 weeks supply after a couple years of clean UAs.

Anyway, this abstinence only as the goal, getting away from harm reduction is unsettling. In the 1920s, after the USA criminalized narcotics. Clinics to treat addicts and Rx for addicts that had become addicted before prohibition were such down in the 20s and MDs were thrown in jail publically to make examples of. The "British system" put the treatment of the addict in the hands of the medical proffession and addicts were Rx drugs for many years. It was kinda a slight "fuck you" from the Brits to the Americans and their puritanical prohibitionist streak. Now it seems the tables are turned and the issue is money. It seems like no one is willing to learn from the Swiss.

Anyway, with the MDMA and California, the Bay Area and Northern CA is a bit of a traditional epicenter of psychedelia. The CIA conducted research with LSD at the VA clinic in Menlo Park. That is were Ken Kessy and the Merry Pranksters got a hold of it and spread it in their circles. Then a man named Owsley got with a girl that was chem major at UC Berkley. He was making mad LSD in the bay area (east bay mostly)and they were having "Acid tests" the 60s version of raves. In 1967, their was the summer of love in San Francisco. What was one of the epicenters of the beatnicks (that experimented with peyote) became the epicenter of the 1967 summer of love. Around this time a quite chemist named Alexander Shulgin, PH.D, working for Dow Chemicals rediscovered MDMA and it was disseminated quietly for about 20 years. In his home lab, under liscense, also located in the East Bay he quitely inveted many phenyetheylamines and indolamines and shared them with the world in his landmark book TIKHAL and PIKHAL.

I got some crazy pure MDMA powder at a dead show in 88' in Oakland and then for the next few years. Some of the cleanest purest loved up E came in white capsules at my first rave in 91' in San Diego. (The scene was imported to the Bay Area a few years earlier by the wicked crew Jeno et al from the UK after your 88' summer of love.

In the 80s and early 90s, 90% of the LSD in the USA was being made in Northern CA by tight hard to infiltrate families that were inextricably linked with the Grateful Dead. After Jerry died, acid got scarcer and scarcer. At that time according to the Narcs 80% of the MDMA was being produced in the bay area.

Then things changed- I think LSD production is more decentralized and alot of MDMA is made in Holland. I know CA had not suffered from E droughts when I heard that bunk pills were going around in Europe- this is evidenced on Pill reports. LEOs say that most of the worlds E is made in Holland, Belgium or Luxemburgh, and Canada is turning into a big source nation. Don't know the accuracy of those figures,

But getting back to the point, health care resources are scarce in the UK and more so in the Republic so drug users who still are viewed with maoral contempt by a majority are going to be the receipients of the harshest cuts because it is more politically expedient. It seeems no one wants to learn from the swiss. Harm reduction is suffering setbacks in the USA as well- but the exact opposite is happening in other countries like Canada, Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, California a notable other states including the district of Colombia. However, more authoritarian states are clamping down even more it would seem (in the south, midwest, and parts of the Northeast.

Anyway, California left its mark on the cannabis world when hippies moved to the Northern Counties like Humboldt, the perfect outdoor conditions in the area around Garberville and started breeding strains and creating chronic hybrid seed that the dutch took and did their own breeding experiments in grow rooms to make superstrains. Their is still a huge outdoor scene there and they advertise for medical MJ on TV these days- its surreal. Furthermore, I live 45 minutes from an unstable narostates big narcotowns were I have heard that some crocked cops will protect drug spots despite calderon's crackdowns- the wildwest, the third world smashes up against our border and there is a 2 mile strip seperating it that is an undeveloped state park past the wall. Its surreal seing the contrats from the US side, imperial beach were beach homes contrast with the hillside shacks visible on the hills 2 miles away.
 
Fair do's, you're correct...Newark is technically Nottinghamshire...Just! But trust me, I lived in Nottingham for a large part of my life and Newark may aswell be Lincolnshire coz the people are more like Lincolnshire folk than Nottingham folk.
But no, sorry, still gonna have to argue with ya a little bit mate......Yorkshire is the biggest county in England and Yorkshire folk are very particular and can in no way whatsoever be compared to people from other counties. Yorkshire is sooo vast that even people in different parts of Yorkshire sound and act differently! You take someone from Leeds and someone from Sheffield and spend the day with them...You'll notice the difference, trust.

Yeah , I think it was the size of Yorks that caught me out. Lincoln is the furthest North I've lived in the UK; I've never set foot in Yorkshire. I've been to Scotland but went up the West coast.

Say Leeds and Sheffield to me and the first thing I think of (besides football) is some great bands - from the Specials through the Human League to the Enemy and the Arctic Monkeys.:)
 
h drought "no more"

alright all,
i wanted to start a new thread instead of posting on the h drought social,

ive not been on here 4 a few weeks,
been busy "if you no what i mean"=D,

dont no if any1 else has done a thread on yet but as far as in my area goes the drought if definetly over,
if getting great gear and can get it from mulitple sources,
i could get gear through the drought,
not always but there was some good gear around,

but the last few weeks its there all the time, 5 minutes away,
its really nice as well,
i can get 7/10 instantly,had some different gear on saturday night from a different guy and that was 8-9/10,
it was much lighter than my usual stuff which is in a hardish lump,

is anywhere else drought free.
 
Droughtfree

Well we were never out of it but prices went up and quality came down.

So what do you pay per gram ?

Its quiet even for a mondaymorning.
 
Just read the article mate, bit scary still huh? im not on methadone (thank god) but people on it will need time to reflect, and get the appropiate help/councelling ect.. the gov't have not got a f**king clue, have they?

They've already started reducing my script, was told results/reductions = funding, no funding= no scripts.
 
seems to be alot of white heroin round by me (birmingham)

it is not feranol or dia-morphine ither, its really light but cooks up dark, it aint that strong ither.

I been off this board cause for a while i was getting good bags but they gone shit again with this white heroin.

anyone else seen this stuff?....
 
seems to be alot of white heroin round by me (birmingham)

it is not feranol or dia-morphine ither, its really light but cooks up dark, it aint that strong ither.

I been off this board cause for a while i was getting good bags but they gone shit again with this white heroin.

anyone else seen this stuff?....

I think that's everywhere Farmaz.
Loads in Dublin of varying quality. From total dirt to 5/10 (current climate).
 
seems to be alot of white heroin round by me (birmingham)

it is not feranol or dia-morphine ither, its really light but cooks up dark, it aint that strong ither.

I been off this board cause for a while i was getting good bags but they gone shit again with this white heroin.

anyone else seen this stuff?....

not yet. not bothered for a couple of days, so this is useful info. cheers!!! ;)

are ya north south, east or west bham. 11 route or 8 route?
 
All I know is DMT is the most common naturally occuring substance in nature...

errr really more common than carbon , water, air, ...etc its not that common its found in some phychoactive plants and although Straussman in his book DMT the Spirit molecule proposed that DMT was produced in the pineal gland it has never been proven (not to say its unture mind, just not evidenced)

The best MDMA we ever got were cali's (from California) in 88-89 small white pills 180mgs - teh d's b's

That is all
 
HeroINpain & Zara - Just coz u 2's from same area don't start bullying others on here, it aint nice. swc1 wasn't asking for your address or fone number, so just calm down coz i don't spect u'd like it.
 
HeroINpain & Zara - Just coz u 2's from same area don't start bullying others on here, it aint nice. swc1 wasn't asking for your address or fone number, so just calm down coz i don't spect u'd like it.

You all making me feel bad.
I think I started the shit with SWC1.
He did try to contact me though & as he's also in Ireland I got paranoid.
Dublin's a small small place!!
 
I think that's everywhere Farmaz.
Loads in Dublin of varying quality. From total dirt to 5/10 (current climate).

from what i read there aint another crop till the end of Jan in afghan land, then its gotta be made into dia-morphine & then got into the uk.

i was hoping things were back to normall as i said i was getting good stuff, the bags had gone back to a decent size & price 0.4 @ £20, 1.5 @ £10.

now its all gone back to shit, at first when i saw how white it was i guessed it was medical grade dia-morphine or feranol. The first crank i had was only a small 0.20ml with only a touch of b's in it as i was scared of going over, but it was shit.
 
from what i read there aint another crop till the end of Jan in afghan land, then its gotta be made into dia-morphine & then got into the uk.

i was hoping things were back to normall as i said i was getting good stuff, the bags had gone back to a decent size & price 0.4 @ £20, 1.5 @ £10.

now its all gone back to shit, at first when i saw how white it was i guessed it was medical grade dia-morphine or feranol. The first crank i had was only a small 0.20ml with only a touch of b's in it as i was scared of going over, but it was shit.

All the info I'm getting is that it'll be the end of February/early March before things will get back to normal.
There will be bits & pieces before that but at inflated prices. Mostly small crews travelling & sourcing themselves but none of the main supplies will come back till end of Feb.
 
alright all,
i wanted to start a new thread instead of posting on the h drought social,

ive not been on here 4 a few weeks,
been busy "if you no what i mean"=D,

dont no if any1 else has done a thread on yet but as far as in my area goes the drought if definetly over,
if getting great gear and can get it from mulitple sources,
i could get gear through the drought,
not always but there was some good gear around,

but the last few weeks its there all the time, 5 minutes away,
its really nice as well,
i can get 7/10 instantly,had some different gear on saturday night from a different guy and that was 8-9/10,
it was much lighter than my usual stuff which is in a hardish lump,

is anywhere else drought free.
manchester is still full of shit the moss and all other areas

:!
 
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