Mostslepton
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Come on, there have got to be at least a few other fans of this sport on here. I don't recall ever seeing a thread about it, and I did do a few searches and as usual, found nothing.
Well, a few threads mentioned UFC or MMA fighting or whatnot. So, think of this as a thread where you can discuss anything MMA related, talk about the Ultimate Fighter series, if you've been to any shows by all means share your experiences, UFC in general, etc. Do you love or hate this sport? Why?
I personally like UFC fighting better than other combat sports strictly for the fact that many of these other sports only cover one aspect of what MMA covers. Also, boxing is boring, wrestling is 75% fake, and martial arts competitions have too many rules. Internal martial arts are great so don't get me wrong, but any fighter knows that in terms of self-defense, practical use and being an "ultimate" (or at least well-rounded) fighter, MMA training has the most benefits.
I think I prefer UFC to Pride FC, although Pride is more geared toward the striker whereas UFC is more geared toward the grappler. So my preference of UFC over Pride is a little odd considering I generally prefer for fights to go to the ground as little as possible, unless an impressive submission can take place fairly quickly. I've been in arm bars and a few other submissions and I can assure you, they're no fun. Unless you're the person applying them
Some of my favorite UFC fighters include:
Andre Arlovski - come on, the guy's a fucking beast. Ever seen him train, how hard he hits those mits?
Cro Cop - well, I've been rather disapointed in his performance since he lost to Gonzaga, although I'm sure that fight was a fluke, nothing more. Funny how he got knocked out by that kick, which is usually how he takes people out. But it's the guy's power that makes him so impressive, I've seen one fight where he kicked a guy in the ribs and the guy didn't feel it until a few seconds later. He simply crumbled to the ground. From what I've heard from people who have attended one or more UFC/Pride fight(s), you can hear it echo all the way across the building when they hit each other sometimes. During one fight in particular, it was so bad that the ring girls were crying and the people up front could probably feel the pain of the poor chump getting hit (I believe it was a Fedor fight, and that dude can hit with a punching style all his own).
Some of my other favorite fighters include: Sean Sherk, Lidelle, Rampage, Silva, Couture, Forrest Griffin and George Saint Pierre. Seriously I couldn't just pick one.
I know a lot of people hate on UFC and MMA in general, saying it's "barbaric" or "dangerous", that the figthers are "tatted up neanderthals", or some other inane form of hogwash. This could not be any further from the truth, I'll have you know.
For one thing, a lot of UFC fighters are actually well-educated, intelligent, purposefully driven individuals. Most of the people who pursue MMA as a career or lifestyle are not your stereotypical fighter, and while it may be true that a lot of them probably originally got into fighting as a means of masking insecurity, over-compensating for perceived inadequacies or otherwise "proving themselves", they also tend to be less egotistical than other athletes because they know they can physically defend themselves. So they don't necessarily feel they have anything to prove to anybody other than themselves, their fans, friends and families, if even that.
There is also quite a huge deal of athletic and technical skill, dedication, and knowledge involved in being successful in MMA. Many people probably assume quite illogically that any idiot off the street can just jump in the octagon and do what these guys do. Sure, they get paid but they also put a lot on the line in order to do so.
As far as safety, the way they have the rules set up in UFC prevents a fighter from being attacked once he can not intelligently defend himself. Any time a fighter is "cut", knocked out or taps out, the fight is over. It is possible for a match to be lost/won due to "doctor stoppage".
One continuous argument in the sports world is in regard to boxing actually being somehow safer or ("better") than MMA. I can see how somebody might prefer boxing because "better" is obviously subjective, although I think it's a retarded opinion to have. But when boxers are encouraged to continue fighting after being knocked out, it is the worse thing you could have someone do in such a situation. When you get knocked out, this results in minor head trauma to the brain stem. Sitting behind the jawbone joint is the deep temporal mandibular nerve - and I don't care how big you are - if you get hit on the jaw hard enough you will be "out" due to this bone slamming into that nerve. Of course you could define a knockout several different ways (and there are different kinds of knockouts, T.K.O. for instance) but from a medical perspective it is unwise to allow a person to continue fighting after this process occurs. Simply because you aren't out and are capable of standing within seconds of this sudden, disorienting and traumatic sensory overload does not imply that you ought to resume a match and expose yourself to possibility of receiving further damage. In conclusion, MMA is all about fighter safety and those refs WILL stop a fight if they feel it is warranted. I've never heard of anybody dieing in the entire history of MMA.
What do you think of MMA, bluelight?
Well, a few threads mentioned UFC or MMA fighting or whatnot. So, think of this as a thread where you can discuss anything MMA related, talk about the Ultimate Fighter series, if you've been to any shows by all means share your experiences, UFC in general, etc. Do you love or hate this sport? Why?
I personally like UFC fighting better than other combat sports strictly for the fact that many of these other sports only cover one aspect of what MMA covers. Also, boxing is boring, wrestling is 75% fake, and martial arts competitions have too many rules. Internal martial arts are great so don't get me wrong, but any fighter knows that in terms of self-defense, practical use and being an "ultimate" (or at least well-rounded) fighter, MMA training has the most benefits.
I think I prefer UFC to Pride FC, although Pride is more geared toward the striker whereas UFC is more geared toward the grappler. So my preference of UFC over Pride is a little odd considering I generally prefer for fights to go to the ground as little as possible, unless an impressive submission can take place fairly quickly. I've been in arm bars and a few other submissions and I can assure you, they're no fun. Unless you're the person applying them
Some of my favorite UFC fighters include:
Andre Arlovski - come on, the guy's a fucking beast. Ever seen him train, how hard he hits those mits?
Cro Cop - well, I've been rather disapointed in his performance since he lost to Gonzaga, although I'm sure that fight was a fluke, nothing more. Funny how he got knocked out by that kick, which is usually how he takes people out. But it's the guy's power that makes him so impressive, I've seen one fight where he kicked a guy in the ribs and the guy didn't feel it until a few seconds later. He simply crumbled to the ground. From what I've heard from people who have attended one or more UFC/Pride fight(s), you can hear it echo all the way across the building when they hit each other sometimes. During one fight in particular, it was so bad that the ring girls were crying and the people up front could probably feel the pain of the poor chump getting hit (I believe it was a Fedor fight, and that dude can hit with a punching style all his own).
Some of my other favorite fighters include: Sean Sherk, Lidelle, Rampage, Silva, Couture, Forrest Griffin and George Saint Pierre. Seriously I couldn't just pick one.
I know a lot of people hate on UFC and MMA in general, saying it's "barbaric" or "dangerous", that the figthers are "tatted up neanderthals", or some other inane form of hogwash. This could not be any further from the truth, I'll have you know.
For one thing, a lot of UFC fighters are actually well-educated, intelligent, purposefully driven individuals. Most of the people who pursue MMA as a career or lifestyle are not your stereotypical fighter, and while it may be true that a lot of them probably originally got into fighting as a means of masking insecurity, over-compensating for perceived inadequacies or otherwise "proving themselves", they also tend to be less egotistical than other athletes because they know they can physically defend themselves. So they don't necessarily feel they have anything to prove to anybody other than themselves, their fans, friends and families, if even that.
There is also quite a huge deal of athletic and technical skill, dedication, and knowledge involved in being successful in MMA. Many people probably assume quite illogically that any idiot off the street can just jump in the octagon and do what these guys do. Sure, they get paid but they also put a lot on the line in order to do so.
As far as safety, the way they have the rules set up in UFC prevents a fighter from being attacked once he can not intelligently defend himself. Any time a fighter is "cut", knocked out or taps out, the fight is over. It is possible for a match to be lost/won due to "doctor stoppage".
One continuous argument in the sports world is in regard to boxing actually being somehow safer or ("better") than MMA. I can see how somebody might prefer boxing because "better" is obviously subjective, although I think it's a retarded opinion to have. But when boxers are encouraged to continue fighting after being knocked out, it is the worse thing you could have someone do in such a situation. When you get knocked out, this results in minor head trauma to the brain stem. Sitting behind the jawbone joint is the deep temporal mandibular nerve - and I don't care how big you are - if you get hit on the jaw hard enough you will be "out" due to this bone slamming into that nerve. Of course you could define a knockout several different ways (and there are different kinds of knockouts, T.K.O. for instance) but from a medical perspective it is unwise to allow a person to continue fighting after this process occurs. Simply because you aren't out and are capable of standing within seconds of this sudden, disorienting and traumatic sensory overload does not imply that you ought to resume a match and expose yourself to possibility of receiving further damage. In conclusion, MMA is all about fighter safety and those refs WILL stop a fight if they feel it is warranted. I've never heard of anybody dieing in the entire history of MMA.
What do you think of MMA, bluelight?
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