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No it was directed at Jay's response to your previous post, and a majority of what he's been trying to drill into us throughout this thread on what the word "fake" should mean.
I'm just trying to understand where he draws the line on what he will accept into his mind as a fake drug. The part about the paper was an over exaggerated example (hopefully) to try to get the point across that he's not seeing eye to eye with how most people view fake drugs. I respect all psychedelics individually. I don't respect a dealer passing something off to me as something that I was looking to buy. Because if what I wanted was acid and there wasn't a trace of LSD on that blotter then to me that makes it fake ACID. I'm not saying 25i is fake, just as it wasn't invented to be LSD. It was made to be it's own drug. If someone sold you a vial thats label stated "25i" yet it was actually a bottle of LSD, well then you just bought a vial of fake 25i.. If you buy Nikes from Asia and figure out that they're not authentic Nikes, well then you bought fake Nikes. Would you argue that it's ridiculous to call them fake Nikes because they're at least real sneakers?
Where we draw the line?
 
So say you intend to buy shoes and you buy Nikes but you find out they're fake Nikes, what you have are still shoes though right? I think that's the point Jay is making. If you're just buying shoes from your dealer expecting he's going to give you Nikes, but he gives you fake Nikes instead, well you didn't buy fake shoes. You failed to inform him that you wanted a particular kind of shoe.

That's how i see it now anyway, i know people like acid = lsd and e = mdma , but it just doesn't anymore. acid = anything, mostly 25x-NBOME and E = methylone or a cathinone of some sort or really anything. E and Acid will always change, they are dynamic names for drugs while LSD is static, LSD is LSD but acid is just a word, though derived from the name lysergic acid, for the most part, no one knows that and better/worse yet no one really cares. Then again if someone sells you sulfuric acid instead of LSD when you ask for acid, you certainly have the right to be upset lol. But the dealer could just say, "well you didn't say what kind of acid you want". And sulfuric acid isn't fake acid by any means, it is an acid, so take that!

so instead of e you go and try to buy Molly but your dealer tells you he isn't involved with human trafficking. Why can't we just use the chemical names or abbreviations that are accepted?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sense_and_reference
 
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That's how i see it now anyway, i know people like acid = lsd and e = mdma , but it just doesn't anymore. acid = anything, mostly 25x-NBOME and E = methylone or a cathinone of some sort or really anything. E and Acid will always change, they are dynamic names for drugs while LSD is static, LSD is LSD but acid is just a word, though derived from the name lysergic acid, for the most part, no one knows that and better/worse yet no one really cares.
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The reason it's like that is because people accept it to be like that..

There's still MDMA ecstasy and there's still LSD acid. But there's a lot of idiots who don't know the difference.
 
^yes that's exactly true

if the large majority of people decide there = their and they're then there will = their and they're. My prediction is that this will actually happen in a few hundred years.

if the large mass of people weren't morons, then acid would be LSD and E would be pure mdma in pill form and molly would be pure mdma powder. The dealers don't care what it is because people will buy whatever anyway, so really instead of blaming the dealers, the users are just as much at fault as a whole.
 
^ If people were to always test their pills and only buy pure MDMA, then dealers wouldn't be able to sell their shit and would go out of business or have to get real MDMA. If every user were educated and informed as well as tested their drugs, this issue would go away, but ignorance usually prevails. Same deal with LSD.
 
as do most people who know better but unfortunately, you probably represent less than 1% of drug users out there. Bluelight itself certainly helps but not enough to change things. Kids now would probably be pissed if they got MDMA instead of methylone lol.
 
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