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TV: Top Chef - Season 4

For once, the best chef won.

It's just too bad it wasn't Hung and Tre dueling at the end. Casey and Dale are fine chefs, but they aren't in the class of Hung when it comes down to making the best meal ever.
 
Nor can they make mediocre, cop out deserts like Hung can.
 
Fuck yeah Hung won!
I watched this from day 1 (season 3 at least, never saw any of the others) and was totally hooked. Thank god the person I was rooting for pulled it off. I thought all of the last people were good contestants (except that latin bitch who was soooo annoying and bossy) and it was a fair match. Man i'd kill to eat some of that food.
 
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I don't know, the chubby one with the undercooked (I want to say chicken) that got her the boot.. She drove me craaaaazy...

Anyways, I loved this season and am looking forward to the next. :) I watched a couple of season 2 and was not nearly as impressed with the talent showcased, but still had a great time watching it.

I think the big problem for a lot of people wasn't Hungs cooking, but his attitude. It seems most people either love or hate cocky/ambitious people. I personally like to be around them as long as they do not outright insult other people, it's good to see someone who is confident.
 
there's a difference between confidence and arrogance. on more than one occasion, he produced something which was (subjectively obviously) below par and blamed the judges for not understanding his vision.

confidence and humility are not mutually exclusive...

alasdair
 
atlas said:
Does Chef Tom's statement that the level of talent is so high mean that the level is so high, or that its so low that something needs to be said? I see some of these plates, and I bet that they taste great, but Brian's last night looked like hash, like something I'd cook and think look liked a mess on the plate. Dale makes a tart without a necessary ingredient. Casery Purees potatoes and then adds a hard, chewey ingredient to them in chunks.

Bush Legaue?
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havent watched the finale yet...

but forget all of that stuff^ people were undercooking chicken right up to the 2nd show before the finals.
i mean seriously, not only is that pretty amateur you could kill someone.
when a top culinary teacher leans over to THE woman from food and wine mag and has to tell her that he would not touch the chicken she has been served.... that pretty sad.


oh and btw, psychetool, use a fucking spoiler tag when it is the night of the finale, please
sorry to be rude, but that sucked
 
just as an addition i think this is wonderful.

I gather that Hung won.

Of course, you saw the Olympian struggle, the final, mountain-top face-off before I did. Security was so sphincter-tight in Bravo-land that even a man of known virtue and impeccable reputation such as myself was not allowed an advance peek at the previously taped combat. And where I am, I couldn't catch the live bits. I'm writing this, days later, from my favorite pub in London, The Festering Ferret, where, in between pints -- and bites of meat pie, I finally laid eyes on this historic clash of the titans -- via bootleg download.

Hung won. Not a big surprise for me -- but for many viewers, apparently, a kick in the stomach. I think the right contestant won. And as importantly, I think that Hung's well deserved victory is a nice, stiff middle finger to all those boneheads who've been predicting that "The producers are setting it up so Casey will win," as well as the poor, deluded souls who feel they can somehow taste food through the television screen and who've been hanging on to a few heavily edited comments about "flavor" as "evidence" that Casey was the "better" competitor. What we saw in the finale did not support that hypothesis.
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i <3 bourdain



and sara wasnt a latin bitch, i think she was a jamacian bitch
 
ya, jamacian born, be seems indian, maybe? I liked her.

As usual Bourdain is on the money. I wish I could find his scathing essay about the qualities, and lack of quality, in Food Network chefs. He dragged Rachel Ray over the coals. <3
 
if you could find it i would absolutely love to read it!
i found an excerpt about ray but not the entire blog

here it is, for other bourdain fans:

Complain all you want. It's like railing against the pounding surf. She only grows stronger and more powerful. Her ear-shattering tones louder and louder. We KNOW she can't cook. She shrewdly tells us so. So...what is she selling us? Really? She's selling us satisfaction, the smug reassurance that mediocrity is quite enough. She's a friendly, familiar face who appears regularly on our screens to tell us that "Even your dumb, lazy ass can cook this!" Wallowing in your own crapulence on your Cheeto-littered couch you watch her and think, "Hell...I could do that. I ain't gonna...but I could--if I wanted! Now where's my damn jug a Diet Pepsi?" Where the saintly Julia Child sought to raise expectations, to enlighten us, make us better--teach us--and in fact, did, Rachael uses her strange and terrible powers to narcotize her public with her hypnotic mantra of Yummo and Evoo and Sammys. "You're doing just fine. You don't even have to chop an onion--you can buy it already chopped. Aspire to nothing...Just sit there. Have another Triscuit..Sleep...sleep..."
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crapulence!
 
bizzump.

down to 3. has anybody else been watching this season?

i don't really feel any attachment to the contestants the way i have in seasons past. i don't really care who wins.

that said, i was pretty shocked to see lisa, at the end of the last episode, give the others shit for not congratulating her. wtf?

alasdair
 
I've been watching.

Lisa sucks. Who the hell gives people shit for not congratulating them? Obnoxious. I can't stand Lisa and was completely shocked she made it so far. I like both Richard and Stephanie, but Stephanie is from Chicago, so she gets my vote.

Did anyone else seem like there were a few chefs who just fucking dominated the entire time? There wasn't a lot of jockeying for position, IMO, just a few people winning over and over, two of which now happen to be in the final.
 
I JUST caught the last one online. :D I didn't know we had Top Chef fans...all I can say is thank god for reruns! :) I have a few opinons one people. Dale- annoys the crap outta me, such drama. And the last one, Lisa was a toal bitch about it, jessh Congrats already. Andrew was way too holier than thou with his healthy bs, thats a big issue for him. Blaze, I have come to totally love that guy, he rules. What was in Steph's dish with the kids?...I just remember that her concept was totally horrible, was it peaunut butter? What the hell was she thinkin? Finally, does Pandma's scar/birthmark on her arm bother anyone else or is it just me? Although a little more tame in terms of language, I guess thats what your get with Gordon, but I think I like Top Chef better than I like Hell's Kitchen.
 
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