Tryptamine naming...

[suburbantoker]

I'm slightly (read: extremely) confused on the naming of some of these compounds.

I understand Psilocin (4-HO-DMT) and Psilacetin (4-AcO-DMT -- Acetoxy accounts for the "acet")

But when it comes to 4-HO/AcO-DET/MET/DiPT/MiPT, how exactly are names made for them and what are they?

 

[tBirdee]

C'mon people I know you know! :D

 

[greenmeanies]

do a search, it's on here or erowid somewhere.

4-HO-MET = methocin
4-HO-DET = ethocin
4-HO-MIPT = miprocin
4-HO-DIPT = iprocin

if you could find it...
4-HO-DPT = procin?
4-HO-EIPT = ethiprocin?


etc etc etc

please note that these are just 'common names' like 'acid' 'molly' or 'trees', they are invented by a few people and just end up sticking because they are convenient. there is an alternate naming system that use "psilocetyl" as the prototype for 4-AcO-XXT but i don't think it makes as much sense as "psilacetin" to me.

 

[any major dude]

4-Aco-DET = Ethacetin
4-Aco-MET = Methacetin
4-Aco-MiPT = Mipracetin (?) Miprocetyl?
4-Aco-DiPT = Iprocetyl also possibly Ipracetin?

just throwing some out there. I get a kick out of taxonomy

 

[solistus]

greenmeanies covered it pretty well. In general I find those names more confusing than helpful. The short form chemical names are my preferred way of discussing them for clarity's sake. There's much less room for confusion that way.

P.S. - according to the wiki article on Psilocybe cubenesis, the 'psilocybe' name came Greek words meaning 'bald head', referring to the appearance of the mushrooms themselves. Psilocybin and psilocin were named after the mushroom which was named for its physical characteristics, so the whole idea of making that compound's name the basis for a system of naming all 4-substituted tryptamines seems questionable to begin with. It seems to me that 'psilocin' caught on because, when 4-HO-DMT was the only known 4-substituted tryptamine, using a longer chemical name with no connection to the name of the mushroom itself would have been unnecessarily confusing. Psilocin is pretty well-embedded in drug users' collective lexicon so it's not likely to go away, but there's no need to extend it to these new compounds.

 

[tBirdee]

Not nearly as complex as I thought they were