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Meth Trying to stop meth by taking Adderall

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I was clean from Meth for 8 months when my Vyvanse stopped working. Working long days and late nights I started using meth again (very little). I was in between Dr visits and was getting switched to Adderall 30mg it. I was hoping that just using meth for 2 weeks it would be an easy transition to Adderall when I got it. I got the Adderall filled but still find myself wanting to get high. If I stop using meth and just take the Adderall will just the Adderall ever be enough or do I need to stop everything for a short time then start up? If so how long do I have to stop everything in order for the Adderall to work. Please help. I'm about to finish an important vo-tech certification that will change my life and I don't want to lose it all. I'm trying to hold on.
 
How do you use meth? What's your dosage? When you use it, are you using it to chase a feeling or are you extending the duration of therapeutic effect?

Could the issue be that you're spending too much time locked into one task and not shaking things up a bit by doing other things (such as getting exercise?)
 
Are you using any other medications, drugs, hormones or supplements?
Have you ever used SSRI medications?

If I stop using meth and just take the Adderall will just the Adderall ever be enough or do I need to stop everything for a short time then start up? If so how long do I have to stop everything in order for the Adderall to work.

There are a few things that will help support the effectiveness of Adderall AND improve your day-to-day quality of life.
These suggestions will (directly or indirectly) help to reduce drug tolerances, reduce meth withdrawals and repair the effects of meth.
These things are all OTC so there is no need for a prescription.
  • Theanine
    Potent anti-stress & anti-anxiety effects that will improve sleep quality and reduce meth withdrawals.
    Repairs the effects of meth (via neurogenesis)
  • Agmatine
    Reduces meth withdrawals, prevents tolerance build-up and repairs the effects of meth (partly via neurogenesis).
  • Rhodiola rosea (adaptogen)
    Improves energy, mood & cognition, reduces stress, reduces meth withdrawals
These suggestions will improve general energy by supporting the body's metabolic function (see this post on what that is and why it's worth repairing)
  • Vitamin B1 (via B-vitamin complex)
  • Niacinamide (50-100mg, with meals)
  • Low dose aspirin (81-100mg max per day, why aspirin?)
  • L-Phenylalanine (300-500mg, daily)
  • Creatine (1g daily)
  • CoQ10
  • Ribose
  • Inosine
  • Low dose coffee (+honey +theanine - why honey?)
    The caffeine in coffee is powerful and can act like thyroid to increase your metabolic rate and the oxidation of sugar, making it a health-protective food.
    Symptoms to expect when you do coffee right are calmness, focus, motivation, warmth, and stable energy.
 
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I am a long-term now-functioning addict who became hooked on opiates when I was 19 due to back surgeries and poor choices who struggled for the next 10ish years trying to find a way out of that hellish nightmare of an addiction only to find amphetamines to be a much better and more practical replacement. In my experience, I can't go straight from meth to adderall and notice any sort of effect, no matter how I've been doing meth at the time. I've gone from using intravenously to trying to use Adderall and ate them by the handfuls and never noticed I took them to only smoking meth and then trying Adderall as a filler and still nothing. However, I did notice the time it took for me to be able to start noticing the adderall was much shorter when I was only smoking than when I was injecting. I basically need to catch up on sleep for a couple of days and then the adderall starts to become effective. Granted, I would like to throw out there that I use drugs like most people use coffee at this point, just to feel normal and be a functioning member of society. Either way, methamphetamine seems to trump amphetamine salts no matter how you've taken them and have to recuperate somewhat before the latter can become beneficial to you again.
 
Are you using any other medications, drugs, hormones or supplements?
Have you ever used SSRI medications?



There are a few things that will help support the effectiveness of Adderall AND improve your day-to-day quality of life.
These suggestions will (directly or indirectly) help to reduce drug tolerances, reduce meth withdrawals and repair the effects of meth.
These things are all OTC so there is no need for a prescription.
  • Theanine
    Potent anti-stress & anti-anxiety effects that will improve sleep quality and reduce meth withdrawals.
    Repairs the effects of meth (via neurogenesis)
  • Agmatine
    Reduces meth withdrawals, prevents tolerance build-up and repairs the effects of meth (partly via neurogenesis).
  • Rhodiola rosea (adaptogen)
    Improves energy, mood & cognition, reduces stress, reduces meth withdrawals
These suggestions will improve general energy by supporting the body's metabolic function (see this post on what that is and why it's worth repairing)
  • Vitamin B1 (via B-vitamin complex)
  • Niacinamide (50-100mg, with meals)
  • Low dose aspirin (81-100mg max per day, why aspirin?)
  • L-Phenylalanine (300-500mg, daily)
  • Creatine (1g daily)
  • CoQ10
  • Ribose
  • Inosine
  • Low dose coffee (+honey +theanine - why honey?)
Love the coffee and honey suggestion, honey is often overlooked for how naturally beneficial it can be. And healthy. So healthy and good for your body.
 
Thanks for all of that great information @Allylbenzene I´ve been in the process of fixing my own health, mental and physical. I have been learning about a lot of this stuff over the past couple of years. I am only able to function long-term if I have everythig in my life on point. For my addiction, this means going to meetings. For my physical dependence/chemical issues, I take medication like Methadone. For my existential anguish, I go to AA meetings pretty much every day.

I wanted to stop getting high for a long time. I wanted to find a way to just will my problems out of existence. I tried over and over again. As smart as I believed myself to be, I bad to admit, there are many things in this world I can do and do well, I have the answers to a lot of different questions. The one answer I didn´t have was how to I exist in this world without my drugs. It was only by going to meetings, getting healthy etc. that the urge to get high was dampened in my mind. I didn´t have to find the answer, I just had to show up at meetings and over time, the answers came.

I hear you that you feel locked in this dance with stimulants. I absolutely get it. I was never a major stimulant user, but like you, I was in college studying to become a teacher and getting ready to start my career and I was totally addicted to Heroin. My days, my goals, my objectives were all ultimately dependent upon my ability to acquire Heroin. Like you and your stimulants, if I didn´t have Heroin, the wheels fall off the car instantly.

I eventually started on Methadone and that was what enabled me to have some stability. Like you, you´re not likely to find the long-term stability you´re after if you continue to supplement with Meth. If you ask me, the Meth needs to be out of the picture. You might be able to finish your school, maybe even work for a while, but what´s the point if you´re on a trajectory toward failure anyway?

With a prescription for a stimulant, you theoretically have a constant means of acquiring your drugs, legally, that nobody can fault you on. If you´re using Methamphetamine, what happens when you have to take a drug test for work? Maybe you find a way to pass the test, but that is just a single example of how life can easily crumble to pieces when your success is directly tied to a drug like Methamphetamine.

I would advise you to finish what you need to finish. Do whatever you need to do to meet the goals you have to meet in the short-term. After your education and evaluations are over, you need to take a break from everything. I would highly recommend setting aside two weeks at least in which you will be able to sleep off the Meth, recover a little bit, get back into a healthy rhythm, then when it´s time to go back to work, you restart the Adderall prescription. Hopefully then, your tolerance will have dropped and you will have a little bit more clarity on your situation.

Do whatever you have to do to stay away from the Meth. If you can´t do it on your own, I highly suggest trying out some meetings. I know it´s not the cool thing. I know going to meetings seems like a drag. They were a big part of why I´m here now talking to you. Believe me, my first meeting, I was smarter than every sad-faced motherfucker in that room. They were pathetic. They just needed to get high like I was, then they wouldn´t have to focus on all of this sad emotional shit. That was my attitude. I am now dependent on meetings to keep me from going off the furrow and ending up dead or in a psych ward or worse, in a Turkish psych ward.

Take a break. Get your head straight. Find discipline however you can find in and try to restart things with just your Adderall prescription. Meth will only ruin you man and it sounds like you have a great life just waiting for you at the end of this. Meth will take all of that and then it will take your soul.
 
I'm only speaking from my experience but when I was a daily user of methamphetamine I developed a tolerance and with that being said I was able to eat three meals a day and sleep every single night and function. My only downfall is I would go through psychosis a lot but it moderation I would be fine as long as I got some sleep I just feel like I could function on it. When I had no tolerance to methamphetamine and when I started using it of course it was a very powerful feeling on my mind and body and the crash was absolutely horrible that I can understand being the evils of meth but once in a tolerance is acquired I just feel like it's a walk in the park
 
For my physical dependence/chemical issues, I take medication like Methadone.

I've written a straightforward and practical outline on how to strategically address all aspects of recovery including initial wd, paws, repairing any accumulated issues and most importantly - preventing relapse. The post gives the full approach in an easy to understand format...and all items used are OTC and inexpensive. It doesn't rely on experimental or novel items either (eg SR-17018).

It's applicable to recovery from all drugs & substances.
 
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Hey @Allylbenzene thanks a lot for the link. There´s a lot of cool, novel (to me at least) information contained therein. I want to stress that a person withdrawing from Benzodiazepines and/or Opioids is not going to take Theanine and Magnesium then magically be able to face the 12 hour work day with gusto and verve. I absolutely feel that supplements are a useful addition to anyone´s recovery. There´s no doubt that these substances can reduce the total suffering faced by an individual and perhaps increase recovery time.

Everyone is different. My recovery came much more from philosophy then from medication. Granted, I have used a ton of medication in the course of my recovery and still use medication to this day to keep me even. However, the true psychic change only came from becoming a stronger person, seeing the value in being an independently strong person along with seeing the reality of my choices. Drugs had taken me everywhere I had wanted to go in my life. I reached the zenith though. Injecting grams of Heroin a day, injecting Barbiturates, using Yaa-Baa every day...

If enlightenment is freedom from desire, pain and misery, then I had gone to the other side of the spectrum. I was a prisoner. Do I regret any part of my life? No, you cannot have those kinds of regrets. I hate that my issues hurt the ones that I loved. I also realize that the gauntlet I ran as a serious addict is the only reason I´ve been able to come back and report on what I saw. We don´t have an understanding of the totality of the universe and how our actions truly affect the world. You only have control over your actions, right and wrong and your honesty.

I had always wanted love. I guess I wanted all kinds, but I always dreamed of meeting the partner who would complete me and catapult us both to new heights. My addiction has become that friend from High School that you just can´t seem to get rid of. He´s always drunk, always asking for money and you struggle to integrate that friendship with your new relationship.

I eventually realized, no matter how I framed it, how hard I tried, whatever I tried, there was ultimately no way for me to be honest about my life when I was using drugs. The reason is that using drugs requires doing things, missing things... you can´t be honest. My path to recovery was when I matured enough to realize that true happiness comes from giving happiness to the people we care about. See, I didn´t understand this in my youth.

I believe recovery requires a psychic change of this kind. You have to want something badly enough that you´re willing to look at yourself, your everything in the mirror and say ¨you´re all wrong¨. It´s the equivalent of deciding you´re gonna be MAGA now and that Donald Trump is your savior. It does not compute as your behavior and personality are so fortified with what is needed to keep the addiction safe.

And look at that... I rambled a whole shit ton. Thanks for the post @Allylbenzene I think everyone should take the time to read through this.
 
...a person withdrawing from Benzodiazepines and/or Opioids is not going to take Theanine and Magnesium then magically be able to face the 12 hour work day with gusto and verve.

I'd emphasise that it was designed for reducing withdrawals and facilitating recovery from any drug or substance. It uses OTC items that are fairly potent, particularly when appropriately combined, and so shouldn't be taken lightly nor dismissed as ineffective due to their stereotypically trivial appearance.

For opioids, this complements SR-17018 since it does everything which SR-17018 cannot (which is quite a lot if you think about it).

Also, as I clarified, benzodiazepines are a much more challenging case but it can significantly support the recovery process alongside a benzo-specific taper/cessation strategy.
 
Hey @Allylbenzene I apologize if it seems I´m trying to poke holes in your post. I promise you I´m not. I believe we share the same opinions regarding most of this. We are just expressing it a little different. That is what makes communicating purely through text difficult at times. I´m always going to play a little bit of Devil´s Advocate in the name of answers, so don´t sweat that. I thought that post was incredibly informative and begins to fill the vacuum we have regarding supplementation.

When I made that comment regarding withdrawal from Opioids or Benzodiazepines, that was more directed at the general public who might not take the time to read through the whole thing. I wanted to communicate that ¨we know, we know, Theanine is not going to stop your Opioid withdrawal¨ so people know we are living in the real world. A lot of people look at that stuff and say if it´s not my DOC or something I´m familiar with, I don´t want to bother. I wanted to send the message that we know withdrawal is hard, we know that these things will not ¨fix¨ it. I was hoping to give your post a little bit of credibility and hopefully convince a few more people to read.

I´ll say again, I think it´s an awesome post man. Thank you for giving that to us!
 
I apologize if it seems I´m trying to poke holes in your post. I promise you I´m not. I believe we share the same opinions regarding most of this. We are just expressing it a little different.
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When I made that comment regarding withdrawal from Opioids or Benzodiazepines, that was more directed at the general public who might not take the time to read through the whole thing. I wanted to communicate that ¨we know, we know, Theanine is not going to stop your Opioid withdrawal¨ so people know we are living in the real world.

It's cool, I didn't assume you were! And I agree with you. I had originally mentioned in the post (paraphrasing): "not to be fooled by the apparent triviality of said items" which shares the same ethos as your post.

I just figured I'd add some additional context so anyone reading this thread will better understand where I'm coming from.
 
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Very well. The @Keif' Richards / @Allylbenzene feud has come to a sudden, bloody end. @Keif' Richards has been hog-tied and shipped off to the Hague, where he will be held on charges of Douchery, Possession of Counterfeit Pokemon Cards and Jaywalking Resulting in Death.
the counterfit pokemon card market is strangely big you'd be suprised, careful and you'll be in endless feudal servitude to nintendo or smth
 
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